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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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MrsSnippyPants · 04/08/2019 16:41

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Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 12:23

I’m not doubting that MAPs want to jump on the LGBT scene and be accepted at pride etc, of course they do.

I’m doubting the narrative that they are accepted by the people within the LGBT and pride communities.

NottonightJosepheen · 06/08/2019 12:24

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MsMcWibble · 06/08/2019 12:25

Disclaimer - I don't know which particular pride this was at:

Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today
MsMcWibble · 06/08/2019 12:27

Did Peter Tatchell attend pride this year?

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 12:27

He said he was at Berlin Pride in another tweet and that he met up with two friends, also MAPs.

So yes, they are attending Pride.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/08/2019 12:27

I was chatting to a young lesbian couple (18, together since 15) at a gathering the other day.

They were describing the homophobia they get re men constantly asking questions. And then that people always ask "do you like boys too."

And that bisexual peers received much more abuse as everyone thinks being bi is basically another word for promiscuity.

It seems to me that no one is respectful of women saying they are only attracted to women. "Bigoted homosexual" said to lesbians is simply put, you aren't attracted to males so you are a bigot. You must be bi. You must be available for all.

Age old misogyny as well as objectification of women as sheaths for penises.

They were also saying, interestingly, that around a third of the girls in their school were lesbians. Only a few boys were gay, due to the difficulties around toxic masculinity and coming out. In a way it was refreshing to hear their school experience was so positive for lesbians. Knowing the kid of parents and teachers living around there though I'm not surprised. A shame the boys still find it hard to come out though.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 12:27

That one with adopted son sounds disturbing, and yes like a sexual fantasy. Can the police not trace these sort of people? If it’s not bs fantasies.

NottonightJosepheen · 06/08/2019 12:28

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/08/2019 12:28

I’m doubting the narrative that they are accepted by the people within the LGBT and pride communities.

Are you honestly trying to say that you can vouch for the thousands of people within the pride community?

You don't think it's possible they will be accepted somewhere within it?

Really?

MsMcWibble · 06/08/2019 12:29

Oh, silly me - didn't he head the parade at Brighton?
In plain sight.

NottonightJosepheen · 06/08/2019 12:29

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Datun · 06/08/2019 12:30

I’m doubting the narrative that they are accepted by the people within the LGBT and pride communities.

Over a hundred people trying to kick out lesbians whilst singing I'd rather be a pervert than a terf.

But doubt away, by all means 😊

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 12:35

By saying the MAPs openly walked around displaying their pedo status without abuse at pride says that all lesbian woman, gay men, transmen/woman there ignored and accepted them.

If I saw someone in a top or something saying ‘MAP’ Or similar, I would 100% question them, so would everyone I know.

Some people may not, granted, but to say they freely walked around like that, with no evidence?

That person posted above is the same video given as evidence earlier. Is he wearing the Berlin version of a MAP flag or something? I don’t get how anyone would know he was a perv?

Nottonight do you think all transgender people have a sexual fetish?

Lawlsie1976 · 06/08/2019 12:35

I have a couple of lesbian friends and a gay male friend. They don't know each other but have all told me independently of each other that they don't go to Pride anymore. It isn't for them now. One said it's just a Mardi Gras and many of those who go are straight Fine. But it's not Pride. Another said it's too corporate much like Glastonbury is now part of the summer season for those who can afford it. And one said lesbians aren't welcome anymore so Pride isn't for them.

Whatever it was once meant to be it isn't now.

Deliriumoftheendless · 06/08/2019 12:36

Ok Early you believed it when it suited you and now you don’t. Ok. Got it.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 12:39

‘You believed our lies earlier so ha jokes on you!’

Wonder how many lurkers are laughing rather than feeling betrayed at the lack of transparency displayed.

MsMcWibble · 06/08/2019 12:39

Early will never ever believe anything we say again. Early used to trust us. sob.
So if pedos were in attendance - it was up to the women to stand up to them? Especially the ones who were being surrounded and shouted at?

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 12:40

By saying the MAPs openly walked around displaying their pedo status without abuse at pride says that all lesbian woman, gay men, transmen/woman there ignored and accepted them.

You were merrily saying that 'mummies' ignored paedophiles yesterday. That paedophiles were there but people were too focused on being anti-trans to notice the padeophiles at Pride. Funny that.

MsMcWibble · 06/08/2019 12:41

On a parenting site, who do you really think the lurkers are siding with?
You are trying to alternately deny the existence of pedos at pride and blame 12 lesbians for not forcing them out.

zebrasdontwearbras · 06/08/2019 12:42

The pups were certainly happy (one seemed extremely happy) to entertain children in their fetish tent, which was kitted out like a children's play area.

But you just carry on not believing it, Early et al. Carry on calling us scare-mongers.

You were, as a pp says, delighted to try to use it as a stick to beat women with upthread though.

Datun · 06/08/2019 12:45

Pride needs to explicitly say what they are marching for. And whether they include fetishists and/or paedophiles.

Because most people think it's about being gay and lesbian.

Not about homosexuality been bigoted.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 12:45

I’m doubting the narrative that they are accepted by the people within the LGBT and pride communities

Same

RuffleCrow · 06/08/2019 12:46

I'm not sure what 'questioning' someone in a MAP tshirt would achieve?

Are you hoping they'd turn around and say "thanks luv, i've seen the light, no more child molesting for me"? Hmm

Better to talk to the organisers and find out if they're aware who's piggy backing on their parade.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 12:46

STOP GASLIGHTING

people have said as fact that MAPs were in attendance and accepted and even had their own float. Now it transpires there’s no actual evidence for this.

Yesterday, it was said that people were shouting at the lesbians rather than the MAPs. I said in response to this, why were the lesbains shouting about trans rather than pedos?

Stop trying to rewrite history.

I cba anymore. I hope that the lurkers here who hang onto every word you ladies say, take on board to do their own research and not accept the hive voice here as ‘fact’

There’s ulterior motives clearly at play.

RuffleCrow · 06/08/2019 12:49

As a member of the LGB community myself roses , i'd have to draw your attention to the fact that we are individuals. Unfortunately there are wronguns in any given community willing to turn a blind eye to child abuse.