No gym for me

[Orchidoptic]

Phoned up Dudley gyms as had sudden urge to get fit without a long contract.
“Yes, yes, the changing areas are sex separated”
“can men who say they are women use the female changing areas”
“its discriminatory not to allow this” “even if the Equality Act says it is acceptable to separate in changing areas”
“its discriminatory not to allow them in”
“even though they probably still have penises”
“its discriminatory not to allow this”
“what about discriminating against women and girls?”
“...”

Trans people are not rapists. There are plenty of sexual assaults by women I could mention. But that doesn't count I suppose because not all women, right?

Women should have the right to penis free zones. End of.

If it hurts your feelings then you are not the kind of person who should be in there anyway.

Decent people dont want to invade spaces they dont belong in.

Please please do give me the grey rock. Anything to avoid more of your insipid ad hominens.

Trans people are not rapists. There are plenty of sexual assaults by women I could mention. But that doesn't count I suppose because not all women, right?

Males rape. Regardless of ‘identity’. They’re responsible for ALL rapes because you need a penis to rape in this country. Males commit 96% of sexual assaults. Since they don’t wear a badge declaring they’re predatory abusive or fetishist, all males should stay the fuck out & any gym doing otherwise are bastards.

I see we've fallen back on insults now. Can't answer reasons and logic? Just create more fantasy. Like women have ever committed sexual assault in the numbers that men do. Really. In the same world where porn and prostitution etc are not overwhelmingly aimed at men, I guess.

No, people are not interested in the OP's body in the changing rooms. Have you actually been to the gym before? No one is interested in anyone's body but their own. And if people are that self conscious, they can just go in a cubicle? Or go in their gym clothing and shower at home? Anything sensible like that, rather than imagining the changing room full of big swinging dicks. Absolutely irrational.

I hope not. Let everyone see. There's too much hiding - we need some plain truth.

It's highly amusing that you think I'm the one who resorted to personal insults.

Not all people with penises rape. But all rapes are carried out by people with penises. It really is that simple. The intellectual dishonesty that people will perform in their desperation to seem woke never ceases to amaze me. Female socialisation has really done a number on those women who are angrily arguing against their own interests because the worst possible thing in life is being seen as someone who doesn’t please men.

It's highly amusing that you think I'm the one who resorted to personal insults.

You did from the get go. You deserve no respect if you’re coming here with your misogynistic crap.

Men go to great lengths to access women’s bodies, just ask Karen White.

The chances are if you did see a trans person, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

Oh yes, I would be so unable to tell if someone like JY walked into the change room that they were male. /s

You are just showing you truly have no clue how far trans ideology has now gone.

You are off the chart sexist, so that's really calling the kettle black. And I would say exactly the same to a man or anyone - no one is interested in perving on you in the changing rooms. That's not the real world.

More fantasy.

no one is interested in perving on you in the changing rooms.

How pathetically naive. Clueless. I actually envy you living in such blissful ignorance.

Even if they were the nicest most nom pervy people on the women dont want to see penises in a room where everyone's supposed to have a female body.

It's that simple.

We are allowed to say no to the penis. Even if that penis is married to us or best friends with us btw

Can I paint a smiley face on my grey rock?

Yes, the nonsense idea that rapists are now putting on wigs to attack women.

You’re right. They don’t have to put on wigs. They can just say they are women. It’s “transphobic” for you to claim trans people would wear wigs. Sorry, but you are showing how out of touch of where trans “rights” have gone. It is just making you look a little silly, to be honest.

“Trans people are not rapists”.

Not all of them, no. Not even most of them. But demonstrably some of them are. Some of them have been named in this thread. Have been convicted of it.

And since we don't know which ones are going to turn out to be, or which men are going to falsely claim to be in order to access women’s spaces much more easily than they’ve hitherto been able to, then given the impact of getting it wrong, the impact of the damage that will (not could) be done to the women and girls who fall prey to these predators, the only safe and right thing to do is to continue what we have been doing: keep adult penises out of women’s spaces.