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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Joan McAlpine

179 replies

Cismyfatarse1 · 17/04/2019 08:42

She is having a really tough time on Twitter. Someone has also leaked a chat between some supportive MSPs. She is doing so much for us here in Scotland.

If anyone is reading this and thinking, what can I do. Send her a card to the Scottish Parliament. Their offices are glass. Show other MSPs as they walk by that she has huge support.

Please. It must be so hard for her and she is asking all the right questions and doing all the right things. Thanks.

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Cismyfatarse1 · 27/04/2019 17:23

And another little Saturday bump.

Cards. Letters. Postcards.

Anything to show we see and support them.

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youllhavehadyourtea · 27/04/2019 18:01

It's my Saturday evening task.

I have cards, stamps and Lisa Tarbuck.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 27/04/2019 19:54

on my list .

youllhavehadyourtea · 27/04/2019 20:20

'tis done! :-)

youllhavehadyourtea · 27/04/2019 20:52

With an eclectic selection of stamps too!

Joan McAlpine
Cismyfatarse1 · 27/04/2019 23:02

Brilliant

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EweSurname · 28/04/2019 08:13

Police launch inquiry into leak of SNP MSPs’ Twitter conversation

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/police-launch-inquiry-into-leak-of-snp-msps-twitter-conversation-1-4916219

ScrimshawTheSecond · 28/04/2019 08:25

Interested to see how this progresses.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 28/04/2019 09:17

Jordan Henderson, is the partner of SNP MEP Alyn Smith.

He seems like a charming fellow.

Joan McAlpine
Joan McAlpine
Igneococcus · 28/04/2019 09:20

Alan Massie in the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/questioning-gender-self-id-is-not-heresy-8qlqlgf7f?shareToken=216a4ca5f2a9ba50da23aa45626dfa35

Overall supportive but also a bit confused at times.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 28/04/2019 09:21

It's all the xxx's and the xoxo's, that get me.

I'm going to make sure you lose your job c*s scum xoxo

This has literally nothing to do with women. Know your place. Xx

KatvonHostileExtremist · 28/04/2019 09:23

Thanks for the share token!

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 28/04/2019 12:02

"This goes beyond questions of what happens if men-who-declare-as-women are allowed into women’s refuges or women’s prisons or permitted to take part in women’s sports (though these are issues of some interest and importance too) but, more specifically, it is a philosophical question"

I appreciate him trying to be supportive, but I do wish people would dispense with the idea of this as some trendy thought experiment with the real world consequences just being "issues of some interest and importance". Men not gaining access to women's refuges, jobs, prisons, hospitals, and sports is the point. If MtF people were considered women in the same way FtM people are considered men - i.e. "sure you can be a man - do you want to go to a male prison? Nope, cool. Compete in male sports? Oh you can't qualify, shame. Inherit a peerage? Sorry, computer says no. Continue to access IVF and give birth? Yeh sure, no biggie. Have a great day", in other words, just carry a meaningless legal title that changes nothing in the real world, then I doubt we'd have a problem with it. Then it'd just be a philosophical question of "some interest". But women are being raped in hospital and prison, harassed in homeless shelters, forced out of public spaces, jobs, and sports, and having barriers to education put in place so can we please stop with the leisurely afternoon debates and put a stop to it!

BlackForestCake · 28/04/2019 16:21

Nicola Sturgeon has just said in her speech at the SNP conference: “we will only be a truly rich society when we ensure that not a single man, woman or child has to rely on a food bank to eat - that is the prize of independence.”

Hot take: How disgustingly transphobic. What about folks who aren’t men, women or children? It’s OK for them to be forced to eat from food banks, etc etc.

Off to Twitter, I bet someone is actually saying this right now.

youllhavehadyourtea · 30/04/2019 20:23

I'm quite excited to think my first class cards will be arriving today.

Unfortunatley some had to go 2nd class.

Cuntysnark · 01/05/2019 21:36

I’ve just written a second thank you card to Joanna. Hope she’s inundated.

EweSurname · 02/05/2019 21:54

This is amazing (though there is already push back from the likes of Rhiannon Spear)

Joan McAlpine
EweSurname · 02/05/2019 21:54

Ooh although Joan has already responded to Rhiannon

twitter.com/ajjenkins/status/1124046794068045824

Genderfreelass · 02/05/2019 22:02

If you venture to MN, Thank you yet again Joan, Joanna and yourself are doing an amazing job 😊

Cismyfatarse1 · 02/05/2019 23:48

I have sent a card to Joanna Cherry at Westminster. She was brilliant too.

Can we keep this up?

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Trousering · 03/05/2019 00:01

Rhiannon Spear is a pompous arse.

bettybeans · 03/05/2019 01:07

Even away from this specific debate Rhiannon Spear is a consistently insufferable and vapid idiot. She's a wannabe though. Light years away from being sharp enough to spar with the big hitters.

Her bleating is nowhere near enough to cause alarm over this invitation. Well done, Joan.

EweSurname · 03/05/2019 13:38

Mhari Hunter is subtweeting (and then said she's not "entering into further correspondence upon this matter" Hmm)

Mhairi Hunter
‏*@MhairiHunter*
Just a wee reminder of the SNP 2016 manifesto which every SNP candidate was elected on. Call me old fashioned, but if you want to change party policy you should ask the party first.

twitter.com/MhairiHunter/status/1124207315719213061

Joanna Cherry QC MP
‏*@joannaccherry*
More Joanna Cherry QC MP Retweeted Mhairi Hunter
The SNP manifesto also supports equality for women & lesbians & condemns abuse against women. Where rights may compete there should be respectful debate not an attempt to shut down debate & #freespeech by stigmatisation. I’m sure @SASomerville would agree

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/05/2019 14:56

There's a piece in the Herald today about the leaking:

www.heraldscotland.com/news/17619575.snp-leaker-im-not-a-criminal-i-just-wanted-people-to-see-the-truth/

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/05/2019 14:58

Archived here:

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