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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

McKinnon targeting Kelly Holmes

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Sexnotgender · 07/03/2019 09:42

McKinnon is going after Kelly Holmes now and has tweeted @iamspecialized who Kelly has a sponsorship deal with Angry

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WeRiseUp · 12/03/2019 10:56

My feeling is that it is not just narcissism and echo chambers, but the way that technology, gaming, the banality of porn and social media have warped thinking.

Avatars blending into personas blending into identities. There are lots of people who game, have cyber sex, have social media accounts and completely lie about themselves. There is a sub-sect who don't know who the hell they are anymore. I remember first meeting someone who believed in transhumanism about 12 years ago (before I knew what the word for it was) and I thought it was ridiculous, but the idea is taking hold. I also very recently found out that Silicone Valley is full of people who are constantly on low doses of LSD (as was Steve Jobs) - which explains why completely implausible ideas are taking hold there.

It is a community with its own mystical beliefs that, to people on planet normal, is all very creepy and weird.

WeRiseUp · 12/03/2019 11:07

So basically I believe there is a cross-over between McKinnon's ideas and the acid-induced craze of 'body-hacking'. People even think you can hack a bloke's body, put a real or artificial womb in it - he'll be able to gestate a baby and he will literally be a woman - entirely the same as an actual woman. They have watched too much Robocop and taken too many hallucinogens.

WeRiseUp · 12/03/2019 11:29

And the thing that is really missing is normal people standing up and saying ugh, disgusting why the fuck would anyone want to do that (inject into, cut, remove, replace, implant, modify, etc healthy bodies to make them part synthetic/tech in a twisted idea of 'improving' upon nature)?

Lamaha · 12/03/2019 20:16

I started a thread today which was deleted. It's a brilliant article on transpeople and sports. However, it can be read on the Fair Play for Women Facebook page, the first post there.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 12/03/2019 20:32

Deleted? Damn. Ok thanks for telling us. I’ll go check it out

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 12/03/2019 20:32

Oh on FB? I’m not on it...

OrchidInTheSun · 12/03/2019 20:35

Lamaha - your thread was deleted because you used the term TIMs which is banned on MN. There's a pinned post at the top of this board which lists all the verboten terminology.

OrchidInTheSun · 12/03/2019 20:37

Sorry, that sounds v po-faced! Just that it was a good thread and I think you could repost (unless MN has said you can't post the link?)

I got a thread deleted a couple of weeks ago because I talked about the trans cult. Well I think that's why. They never told me so it's a bit of a mystery

Lamaha · 13/03/2019 02:39

@JessicaWakefieldsSVH and others: it's a public post so you don't have to be on Facebook to read it.
This is the FB link: www.facebook.com/fairplayforwomen/

Lamaha · 13/03/2019 02:51

ALL FPFW Facebook posts are public, so even if you haven't got a FB account evertyone can still see their latest updates.

EweSurname · 13/03/2019 12:25

After tweeting about looking into Kelly Holmes, iamspecialized remained silent for 5 days before taking up tweeting again.

No mention of Kelly Holmes though.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/03/2019 15:13

Have the bike company made any comment? Has Kelly said if they have spoken to her or her agent?

Hands up anyone who would want to but one of their bikes? I do wonder what their bike seats are like (since they cant tell the difference between mens bums and womens bums)

Manderleyagain · 13/03/2019 18:33

Kelly tweeted something earlier today which shows she hasn't heard from the bike company, and they don't seem to have said anything public. They've started tweeting from the account again after it was silent for a bit.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/03/2019 18:34

I wonder if the same person is driving the account? Did they get back to the whinger?

Theblueplanet · 13/03/2019 19:49

I emailed Kelly last week with my support and thanks for standing up for women and girls and got a email reply thanking me! Am just a bit star struck Grin

I'd copied in those idiots at Specialized, how disappointing that they seem to be hoping we'll all forget about it (bit like Penny Mordaunt!)

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/03/2019 20:12

Just keep emailing them - ‘we still see you’

Needmoresleep · 14/03/2019 12:44

Specialized has not replied to my email either.

I think they will keep quiet, as they should have done in the first place.

I am imagining a conversation between some woke Californians and their British colleagues. The former are smug at having been so quick to respond to a report of transphobia. Their British colleagues then phone up.

'But this is Dame Kelly Holmes..'
'Who is Dame Kelly Holmes. She is a transphobe.'
'She is a National Treasure. If you mess with/bully Dame Kelly, we will be stone dead in the British market. Most people here agree with her.'

So the only action will be inaction.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 14/03/2019 12:47

backpedalling furiously!

MillytantForceit · 14/03/2019 12:48

They don't have a clue and the NBC Olympic coverage is no help. They actually re-edit the races to show the yank still in contention when they've been lapped.

"Dame" would make them think of South Pacific. Barack Obama in Belfast famously welcomed "Damm Mary Peters..."

CallMeWoman · 14/03/2019 17:03

backpedalling furiously!

I see what you did there.Grin

EcclesThePeacock · 14/03/2019 17:20

Backpedalling gets you nowhere.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 14/03/2019 17:21

Unless you are in Holland. That’s how you stop your bike.

MillytantForceit · 14/03/2019 17:23

AKA a 'Fixie' or fixed wheel single gear, very popular with the wokey-blokeys with porridge in their beards.

teyem · 14/03/2019 17:25

Unless you have a fixed gear bike, then you can go backwards and distract the onlookers with clever tricks.

teyem · 14/03/2019 17:26

I'm so slow when I type. Grin

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