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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Miranda Yardley calls out the predator

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Nudibranch · 26/12/2018 02:25

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator

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LaundryLaundryLaundry · 26/12/2018 13:41

"Criminal laws are in place to stop anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet or changing room, or harrassing or attacking people.”

Oh Penny, do you actually think laws stop people doing bad things? What a stupid thing to say.

Gileswithachainsaw · 26/12/2018 13:42

Oh Penny, do you actually think lawsstoppeople doing bad things? What a stupid thing to say

Plus you have you worry about who exactly behind the "robust assessments" and laws.

Look at the prisom senario

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 13:43

Thanks, howard!

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 13:44

The "robust assessments" scheme isn't working, Penny.

SlightAggrandising · 26/12/2018 14:01

That kiwi farms thread is something else. Holy moly.

Vegilante · 26/12/2018 14:18

About Esther Betts's tweets about JY, specifically: I'm looking up this Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv guy, all I have to say at the moment is that as a trans woman I've never been this obsessed with 10 year olds having periods...

Why is Betts allowed to call Yaniv a guy when Twitter bans GC people, particularly women, for doing the same?

And what's with the very odd wording Betts has chosen? Betts doesn't call out JY's pervy obsession as alien, grotesque, abhorrent & unacceptable. No, Betts says as a trans woman I've never been this obsessed with 10 years having periods, which suggests that as a trans woman Betts shares the same obsession as JY, just not to this extent.

Also Betts's Tweets about JY express/reveal not a lick of concern for the girls & women violated & endangered by men like JY. Betts's sole concern is that transgender predators like JY might make all men who claim to be women look bad in the public eye.

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2018 14:21

Why is Betts allowed to call Yaniv a guy when Twitter bans GC people, particularly women, for doing the same?

Because its down to pile on reporting campaigns. Are you popular in the right circles or have you been vilified as evil. Might yet happen to Betts, but I would suggest that Betts doesn't get reported as Betts is still respected and has the right connections.

starcrossedseahorse · 26/12/2018 14:23

The audio that 'shadeshrimp' has posted with the posts...it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. This man should be locked up.

starcrossedseahorse · 26/12/2018 14:24

On KiwiFarms

Knicknackpaddyflak · 26/12/2018 14:41

"Criminal laws are in place to stop anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet or changing room, or harrassing or attacking people.”

Yeah, no. Criminal laws are in place to allow police to investigate allegations of anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet or changing room, or harassing or attacking people after the alleged crime has taken place . A large proportion of these crimes against women are never reported as the woman involved is too distressed and has little to no faith in police response; a very large proportion of those that are reported are not prosecuted by CPS, and only a small proportion of those that get to court ever successfully end in any real consequences for the attacker.

They're fucking awful laws that already don't work to protect women, Penny. Do your bloody homework.

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2018 14:52

Imagine a world where criminal laws stopped all crimals from doing criminal things.

Women wouldn't have the vote for starters...

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2018 14:52

... on the other hand there might be a lot more of them alive today.

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 15:07

I am pleased to see the case of JY getting more attention. JY recently appeared at a local government meeting to 1) boast of getting Meghan Murphy banned permanently from Twitter and 2) advocate creating a LGBTQ liaison and installing more sanpro machines in toilets at local schools. Any guesses as to how JY envisions those logistics working out?

The Kiwi Farms thread is extremely worthwhile. They have collected reams of evidence and won't be intimidated into taking it down (even though JY is apparently trying his usual tack).

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 15:11

Kiwi Farms also has a very useful thread on Morgane Oger, the Vancouver local politician who continues to campaign to shut down Vancouver Rape Relief for its "trans-exclusive" policies.

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 15:18

KF also has information (though not yet a dedicated thread) on a person who advertises domination services as "Western Canada's Only
Transsexual BBW Goddess" and seems to form another piece of the local woman-silencing movement. This person spoke at the Vancouver Women's March this year.

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 15:23

Oh christ I thought I went through carefully. In previous post, please read JY is trying JYs usual tack to threaten Kiwi Farms.

TheChampagneGalop · 26/12/2018 15:40

Grimitch Who is person spoke at the Vancouver Women's March?
I checked Kiwi farms and they have a thread about Glinner too Confused

Yambabe · 26/12/2018 15:47

I don't think Yaniv has actually asked Kiwifarms to take the thread down though, they seem to want pictures of Yaniv taken down on the premise that (although they have been shared by Yaniv in the public domain) they are his intellectual copyright.

Although the response wasn't quite as succinct as Miranda's, I note that it was basically "here I am - bring it on".

Be interesting to see if Yaniv actually has the balls (sic) to take his legal actions outside Canada - I assume that any action would have to be served in the defendent's own country and subject to their laws rather than Canada's?

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2018 15:56

Kiwifarms are extremely unlikely to comply with requests to take down things which they consider to be important in terms of free speech.

Mainly because it would end their usp and in turn end their business!

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 16:01

"Hailey Heartless"

starcrossedseahorse · 26/12/2018 16:02

Hailey Heartless?

starcrossedseahorse · 26/12/2018 16:02

xpost!

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 16:08

Yes, it was Hailey who told women at the Vancouver Women's March that their feminism should include trans sex workers, because the latter could teach the women, among other skills, "how to take amazing selfies" and "how to practice excellent hygiene." Hmm

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 16:09

Full speech here (note womanly username):

medium.com/@SadistHailey/march-on-vancouver-2018-f7e57e6c1785

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/12/2018 16:17

The "robust assessments" scheme isn't working, Penny.

There is demonstration of this in Scotland.

Paris Green, part of a group convicted of horrendous torture and murder of a man in Edinburgh, is in the female wing of the jail. About to have surgery in England - which means having prison staff on shifts with Paris at all times whilst travelling to and recovering from, the surgery. We don't know what surgery Paris is having. Paris has been moved from the female estate many times for having sexual contact with female inmates. no reports of rape - but, I'd question that as Paris is fucking huge, violent and properly dangerous. Doubt I'd complain.

Anyway, also in the same prison is Tiffany Scott - who has not got a conviction for murder, but is known as "Scotlands most dangerous prisoner" on account of Tiffany being an absolute madman - worth googling "Mighty Almighty" which was Tiffany's previous name. Tiffany does not have sexual assault rumours, or convictions.

So...WHY is Paris in the female wing of the jail, and Tiffany is not?

If it's "acceptance without exceptance" then when does Lianne Huntley move to the female prison system?

Ludicrous.