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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Miranda Yardley calls out the predator

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Nudibranch · 26/12/2018 02:25

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator

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TheChampagneGalop · 26/12/2018 16:17

I don't even know what to say. I hope there was a backlash from women who participated in the march.

starcrossedseahorse · 26/12/2018 16:20

WTF is 'radical self care'?

Binglebong · 26/12/2018 16:23

Don't they have a single friend who's a lone father to dds? Do these people really mean so little to them that they are happy to use them.as collateral damage for woke points.

I would hope any dd in that situation would ID as a ds for their own safety. And I am very against anyone, but especially children, self IDing.

GrinitchSpinach · 26/12/2018 16:32

HH is, along with JY, at the center of Meghan Murphy's twitter ban.

From the Toronto Sun:

Vancouver-based Meghan Murphy’s account was recently put on ice following an online brouhaha with trans activist Lisa Kreut. How a left-leaning writer fell afoul of the left wing social media site began last August when she wrote, then tweeted about Kreut. Besides being an activist, Kreut is a dominatrix who uses the handle Hailey Heartless. What triggered the spat was Murphy and others upset at Kreut being asked to speak at the annual Women’s March because of her views on rough sex and prostitution.

torontosun.com/news/world/twitter-censors-feminist-over-trans-feud

merrymouse · 26/12/2018 17:15

criminal laws are in place to stop anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet or changing room, or harrassing or attacking people.

Spoken like somebody who isn’t aware that rape is a very difficult crime to prosecute, which is terrifying given her job.

Ringdonna · 26/12/2018 17:27

The power of common sense is often overestimated.

HandsOffMyRights · 26/12/2018 18:43

CoupsRelative (@APatchOnCinamon) Tweeted:
At 7pm GMT Kiwi Farms will be running a live stream about Jonathan Yaniv (after YouTube refused to host it). The stream can be found here t.co/UwDXxTuCJV twitter.com/APatchOnCinamon/status/1077982265647554565?s=17

deepwatersolo · 26/12/2018 18:57

Miranda is one GC treasure. FlowersXmas Smile

NothingOnTellyAgain · 26/12/2018 19:03

"criminal laws are in place to stop anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet "

The other point with this is that it ignores the large range of behaviours that men can and do deploy to make women and girls feel uncomfortable / embarrassed / threatened but does not cross the line to illegal.

It's not illegal to stare at people
It's not illegal to stand too close to people and strike up conversation with them
It's not illegal to ask a girl in the ladies if she uses tampons
etc and so on

This idea that it's all or nothing ignores the vast amount of behaviour that makes us feel unsettled / unsafe but when described sounds "nothing-y" probably because fof a combination of not having decent language to describe it and society saying that we have to put up with a fair amount of shit as that's our job as women / girls.

And this is exactly why we have single sex facilities in the first place. To get away from the men with the too-many-times-up-and-down eyes and the insistence on personal conversation and the hands in the pockets what are they jangling? and the undercurrent of possible violence that makes most women and girls deal very carefully with these types of men rather than just telling them to fuck off and leave us alone like we want to.

Poppyred85 · 26/12/2018 19:08

I’ve just gone back to the first page of this thread to look for the kiwi farms link and I think it’s been deleted. There’s a deleted post by DoctorTwo which MNHQ says broke talk guidelines. If I’m right and that was a post with the kiwi farms link why has it been deleted?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/12/2018 19:17

why has it been deleted?

It had a poem about Yaniv.

WomanOfTime · 26/12/2018 19:25

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

silentcrow · 26/12/2018 19:34

Gosh, KF is an interesting little corner of the internet, isn't it? Fascinating how, despite the difference in approach/background/political outlook/part of the world, they come to most of the same conclusions via evidence as we do. Reading the JY thread in one go is chilling, you can see the escalation coming a mile off.

Hi Farmers. Grin

ShotsFired · 26/12/2018 19:45

I tried watching it when it started but the stream was terrible so I clicked off. It seems to be a little better now?

FlyingOink · 26/12/2018 20:03

See, I was all ready to comment on the madness in Canada and then I read about Mighty Almighty ... Demanding female officers did the strip search. Having to be held down by eleven guards. Slashing people's faces in prison. Being in prison permanently but for a series of smaller crimes. What a total waste of time, effort and money. What are the chances that person will ever do anything good or worthwhile? Hopefully it's an undiagnosed mental illness and can be treated - but I suspect that person is just pure evil.
Incidentally Paris Green is toxic. It's literally a rat poison, which is the first result when you Google Paris Green.

HomeStar · 26/12/2018 20:09

OH SHIT I JUST REALISED SOMETHING.

All those women who are patiently tolerating the questions and perversity in the screenshots. It's not just because they are young teenage girls he's harassing (although most of them are, AFAIK.) A lot of the time it's because they think he's an FTM trans person not an MTF trans person, and he really has periods like he keeps claiming he does, and that he's very confused or sheltered. They feel sorry for him.

There are some screenshots of women being very confused when he tells them he's MTF. I didn't see them till a long time after the first screenshots were leaked, so it never occurred to me that it was very useful context.

Ugh. This makes it even worse.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/12/2018 20:17

I'm looking up this Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv guy, all I have to say at the moment is that as a trans woman I've never been this obsessed with 10 year olds having periods

So, still obsessed but not to the same extent? This is why good grammar is important, kids!

HandsOffMyRights · 26/12/2018 20:21

I only got to listen to some of the live stream - it was a bit haphazard. Will have to find a summary on Twitter.

HandsOffMyRights · 26/12/2018 20:37

Just been tweeted that Kiwi Farms is phoning Yaniv live
:
twitter.com/Cave_Art_Films/status/1078026132618989569?s=20

HandsOffMyRights · 26/12/2018 20:40

Looks like Yaniv hung up.

Girls can't hang up, Yaniv. They can't escape you in their spaces.
If women tell you "no" and try to hang up, you sue them.

ProfessoressWoland · 26/12/2018 20:52

So what's the average woke person supposed to think - is JY just a woman with a keen interest in menstrual hygiene, or is JY not a proper transwoman because all transwomen are harmless and vulnerable?

ShotsFired · 26/12/2018 20:53

I heard the phone call. It was funny. JY was totally spooked that a real life person real life called him.

KiwiFarms: Is that Jonathan Yaniv?
JY: : its Jessica
KW: [some chat about the desist notice and fair usage]
JY: [Bluster about lawyers]...good day!

(however the segment where KF was reading out his sex toy review was just vomit-inducing. He is a basket case of fucked-upness)

NothingOnTellyAgain · 26/12/2018 20:59

"Looks like Yaniv hung up.

Girls can't hang up, Yaniv. They can't escape you in their spaces.
If women tell you "no" and try to hang up, you sue them."

THIS THIS THIS X 98MILLION.

Excellent post.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/12/2018 21:38

That could be a campaign, eh? "Give women the right to hang up"

AngryAttackKittens · 26/12/2018 21:39

Going back to Hailey Heartless's comments about teaching women excellent hygiene in the light of Hailey's friend Yaniv's tampon obsession, what exactly does Hailey want to teach women how to keep clean?

(So many misogynistic undertones there even if you overlook the other red flags.)

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