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Vice: how an online forum for moms became a toxic hotbed of transphobia

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NotTerfNorCis · 06/12/2018 18:16

broadly.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

Thought people might be interested in this article. One thing that strikes me is the 'reducing women to their biology' argument. Don't transwomen 'know' they're not male because their body feels wrong? Then it is about biology isn't it? Otherwise why do they think they're female?

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sackrifice · 10/12/2018 08:59

She looks like the real thing
She posts like the real thing
My fake plastic terf ...

NotANotMan · 10/12/2018 09:02

That might be a reference to 'fake goth' Cathy Brennan. I don't get it but that's apparently an insult

NotBadConsidering · 10/12/2018 09:19

I like it when people put an asterisk in ”terf”. It helps demonstrate its use as a slur:

Cnt
Pr
ck
T*rf.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/12/2018 09:38

There was a young LibFem on Twitter
Who said 'Mumsnetters are just bitter
It makes me so vexed
That they understand sexed
Bodies. Their lives need more glitter'

LikeDust · 10/12/2018 09:43

Very good.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/12/2018 09:48

There was a brave and stunning young male
Who said 'Mumsnettters are beyond the pale
My gender ID
Means you're all women, like me
Now accept it or else I will wail

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/12/2018 09:49

what's the betting that the limerick about a woman is left to stand, where the second one which pokes (gentle) fun at gender identity gets complained about?

ErrolTheDragon · 10/12/2018 09:50

'Plastic' feminist?Confused

Tough? Not rigid? Resistant to degradation? Extremely useful but unpopular and easily vilified?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/12/2018 09:55

like a plastic scouser innit?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/12/2018 09:57

On the interwebs, there prevails an acute keen-ness
To point out Mumsnetters' evil mean-ness
"Transwomen are women" they preach.
"And saying anything else is hate speech.
So don't point out 80% of us still have a penis".

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 10/12/2018 09:57

Oddly enough, it's only since my chromosomally-determined material body manifested its sex-specific reproductive capacity that I find myself wading through knee-deep glitter in the lead-up to Christmas

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 10/12/2018 10:01

Oddly enough, it's only since my chromosomally-determined material body manifested its sex-specific reproductive capacity that I find myself wading through knee-deep glitter in the lead-up to Christmas

I remember my SIL, when both her kids were small, wondering how the hell glitter had ended up in her bra.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/12/2018 10:09

yeah, on consideration, glitter wasn't the best rhyming word to pick

should have gone for shitter

ErrolTheDragon · 10/12/2018 10:21

should have gone for shitter
Mothers tend to have to deal with more of that too.
Occasionally even glittery shit, according to threads I've read...

LikeDust · 10/12/2018 10:31

You lot are ace! Grin

AngryAttackKittens · 10/12/2018 10:43

Glitter, the herpes of the craft world. Why do genderists love it so much anyway?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 10/12/2018 10:47

it turns out millennials are idiots

the glitter tongue trend probably isn't a good idea

WomenPeople · 10/12/2018 11:53

There once was a Wokeland lived in by folk
So strong and so brave, so stunning and woke
Yet songs made them cry
They couldn’t scroll by
The truth that a penis makes you a bloke

Nothing in this justifying a deletion surely?

AngryAttackKittens · 10/12/2018 11:56

Can't decide if that's more or less stupid than vajazzling.

BirdseyeFrozen · 10/12/2018 18:27

AAK sends glitter warning

Binglebong · 10/12/2018 21:35

Thank you for the recipe Dance. All mixed in (not shaken yet). Drunkeness Trial this year and if as good as expected gifts and more for me next.

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