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Vice: how an online forum for moms became a toxic hotbed of transphobia

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NotTerfNorCis · 06/12/2018 18:16

broadly.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

Thought people might be interested in this article. One thing that strikes me is the 'reducing women to their biology' argument. Don't transwomen 'know' they're not male because their body feels wrong? Then it is about biology isn't it? Otherwise why do they think they're female?

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LikeDust · 08/12/2018 22:29

Yes. Thanks pencils

NotANotMan · 08/12/2018 22:38

Thank you to everyone on this thread particularly pencils and herfemaleness

Brava

BirdseyeFrozen · 08/12/2018 22:44

Bravo Indigo Sierra Charlie Uniform Indigo Tango
and
goodnight Flowers

boatyardblues · 08/12/2018 22:44

Bravo Indigo Sierra Charlie Uniform Indigo Tango

😂

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/12/2018 22:48

I officially have no idea what is going on

That'll teach me to have a bit of family time Hmm

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/12/2018 22:54

Did you miss the decoder thread Rufus?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/12/2018 22:56

Well i must have done captain grin*

And i missed about 10 of the pages of the hotbed thread i was looking at

I tried to catch up but to be honest I didn't see the point...it was virtually the same posts!

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/12/2018 22:57

Oh my god

Ive been away so long ive forgotten how to grin

LikeDust · 08/12/2018 23:15

A post that got lost in all the merriment about Toxic Hotbeds and secret codes was this one from the morning:

mirandayardley

That they’re monitoring Mumsnet just shows how little self-awareness they all have. Their own online groups and websites reveal their misogyny, homophobia, outright hate for women and of course are packed with all that autogynephilia that apparently doesn’t exist.

The Facebook group ‘trans rights UK’ is where they coordinate attacks on women individually and women’s grouos. There are other discussion boards like Angels, Susan’s Place and Crossdreamers.

All these places show clearly the transgender community does not support women.

I had the displeasure of looking at Crossdreamers and it gave me the bloody heeby-jeebies. Some of the voyeurism, envy and crazy talk makes them seem not miles away from Jame Gum from Silence of the Lambs. Not the kind of people women should feel at ease around.

Ereshkigal · 08/12/2018 23:32

I think Silence of the Lambs is on C5 over Christmas. Given its perfect portrayal of AGP (not talking about the murders here) I wasn't sure if they would ever show it again!

LikeDust · 08/12/2018 23:51

Oh I have to watch it. It is a fantastic film.

WomenPeople · 09/12/2018 10:00

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TheCuriousMonkey · 09/12/2018 10:07

Haven't posted on here for ages, but just want to say womenpeople that's amazing.

Ereshkigal · 09/12/2018 10:36

Fantastic Grin

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/12/2018 10:47

Brilliant!

Whoever screenshotted the other song, feel free to tweet this for us too.

Popchyk · 09/12/2018 10:52

Brilliant, Womanpeople.

To the tune of Jolene, by Dolly Parton:

Justine, Justine, Justine, Justine
I'm begging of you please don't call me 'man'
Justine, Justine, Justine, Justine,
Please don't do it just because you can

Your status is beyond compare
With debate allowed where none will dare
Talk of facts and logic is so mean
Your site is worse than Nuremberg
Your language is emoji-TERF
And I cannot compete with you, Justine

Justine, Justine, Justine, Justine
I'm begging of you please don't call me 'man'
Justine, Justine, Justine, Justine,
Please don't do it just because you can

WomenPeople · 09/12/2018 10:54

I love that Popchyk!

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/12/2018 11:02

WomanPeople that is superb!

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/12/2018 11:04

Weeping now at Popchyk Grin

OrchidInTheSun · 09/12/2018 11:07

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 WomenPeople and Popchyk. Superb, both of you

Ereshkigal · 09/12/2018 11:08

This thread is wonderful Grin I'm glad our TRA friends are getting so much enjoyment from it too!

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/12/2018 11:12

We need an album

"Radicalisation Portal's Greatest Hits
Now That's What I Call Terfy, Vol I"

Ereshkigal · 09/12/2018 11:12

Oh yes

LangCleg · 09/12/2018 11:15

I love you all.

boatyardblues · 09/12/2018 11:23

^"Radicalisation Portal's Greatest Hits
Now That's What I Call Terfy, Vol I"^

There’s probably consternation that we’re not cowed by the “transphobe/TERF” mudslinging. The problem is, when merely stating scientific facts and dictionary meanings is described as hate speech, the slur itself becomes meaningless.