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Woman's Hour Tues 20/11/18 "Why is the current debate about sex and gender so often called “toxic” - we hear from @Bex_Stinson and @helenlewis"

184 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 20/11/2018 09:16

twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1064804876327235584

OP posts:
NeurotrashWarrior · 20/11/2018 10:09

Ooooh Jane...

Why don't transmen occupy the same media space...

AbsintheFriends · 20/11/2018 10:09

Bex arguing that the MSM is dominated by feminist voices demonising trans people. 'We aren't getting trans voices in the room'

WHAT UTTER BOLLOCKS

LilyRed · 20/11/2018 10:09

'Not listened to' ... or not listening, Bex?

Budgieinaberet · 20/11/2018 10:09

Jane I think I love you

AbsintheFriends · 20/11/2018 10:10

Trans bingo! Bex makes it personal! 'I'm not a danger to anyone'

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/11/2018 10:11

Bex knows they're a woman...

Bex feels safe in women's spaces...

Budgieinaberet · 20/11/2018 10:11

Well let Bex speak, peaking the nation

hipsterfun · 20/11/2018 10:12

Oh god, the entitlement!

NoUnicornsToSeeHere · 20/11/2018 10:12

I missed the beginning... why isn’t this a live debate and pre recorded?

Melamin · 20/11/2018 10:12

So - no debate then lol

That introduction reminded me so much of the Sky piece with Jess, where the voice over said that transwomen were shy and retiring and it was difficult for them to contact Jess...……….and we all knew how shy that person was a week later...…………...

LikeDust · 20/11/2018 10:13

Maybe Bex you might make women feel less safe when you are in women's spaces.

Wrathofjurgenklop · 20/11/2018 10:13

Apparently trans people are too scared to appear on the radio.Hmm

JG is making sure Bex talks about TW's not trans people.

arranfan · 20/11/2018 10:14

Trans bingo! Bex makes it personal! 'I'm not a danger to anyone'

I would argue that Bex implicit demands would:

dismantle safeguarding;
reinforces the danger of totalitarianism taking root because of the 'wrong think', language restrictions etc.

I regard these as deeply dangerous on a societal and political level.

AbsintheFriends · 20/11/2018 10:15

Helen Lewis is EXCELLENT

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 20/11/2018 10:16

Ooooh Helen's coming across very well!!

LikeDust · 20/11/2018 10:16

Helen Lewis is being great about this.

breastfeedingclownfish · 20/11/2018 10:16

Helen doing brilliantly actually. Thanks Helen.

MarshaBradyo · 20/11/2018 10:16

Still admire JG over all this - she speaks very well
Agree on the line we would lose a huge cornerstone of feminism

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 20/11/2018 10:16

Pow pow pow she's like rapid fire!

Sycamoreleaves · 20/11/2018 10:17

Love love Jane Garvey.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 20/11/2018 10:18

Humm .. deadnaming

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 20/11/2018 10:18

Bloody fence again

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/11/2018 10:18

Good point; disagreement v transphobia. Grey areas.

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/11/2018 10:19

On Fence but slips in good points - enough to set seeds of thought.

Wrathofjurgenklop · 20/11/2018 10:19

Dead naming is cruel and hurtful.
Is it really?