Trans debate BBC 5live post 9am TODAY Mon 24th Sept

[TefalTester123]

Not posted much on this but been following the debate. Just heard interview with the Guide Leader at the centre of the GG issues (Helen I think) and announcement that they will be debating the whole trans issue after 9am with Nicky Campbell.

Gender non-conforming.
EVERYONE IS GENDER-NON CONFORMING TO SOME EXTENT.
EVERYONE.
It is he "for now".........

Do you think they are aware how unintentionally hilarious this conversation is for anyone who knows the topic, and how utterly incomprehensible it is to anyone else??

Nicky hadn't heard about how they deal with this in Iran then.

He likes Little Mix? What the actual fuck.

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Phoning is more effective than online apparently, but we can do both. Don't get fobbed off and progress the complaint when you get the stupid Pro forma response.

Hearing a lot about Helen's heart.

What a lovely woman.

And that's the BBC complaints form

Info re 'conservative religious' countries

Where being a gay man is a punishable offence, males transitioning is accepted.

Society has a problem with gender non conforming people. Yes.
Society should be more accepting of them. Yes.
What the hell has this got to do with trans? Trans is all about pushing such people into the gender box which fits their personality.

Had to turn off before I vomit. Not the debate I was hoping for. In fact, not a debate.

"Do what they want" lol that sums it up doesn't it!

Women should do what men want. Or get sent to the Gulag. Got it thanks

Didn't listen >
What wrong with Larry Grayson then?
I remember him vaguely he had his glasses on a bit of string round his neck, seemed vaguely benign? I was very young at the time, I remember Benny Hill sketches making me uneasy and stuff when there were "sexy ladies being sexy" on various things but what was wrong with Larry Grayson?

Encouragement from Dr Webberely for children and young people to 'play with their pronouns'

I've forced myself to come back after switching it off.

It's just unbelievable how few women's voices have been heard in this 'debate', other than Webberley and the camping mum with the burly bearded 'she' friend.

As for Webberley and her heart 'hurting' and 'lifting'......ODFO

I do hope Boy George is listening.

OK I'm out. It's too much crazy for me. If anyone needs me I'll be over at Radio 4

Phoning is more effective than online apparently, but we can do both.

Why is phoning more effective? Don't you just get some phone operator who pretends to agree with you? and then nothing?

Transgender ideology has a MAJOR problem with gender non conforming people. So much so that it requires people to turn themselves into lifelong medical patients if they don't obey the stereotypes required of their sex.

Can this be.......PIPS BUNCE?!

This is disgraceful - up to now, we've had one extreme text but everything thing else is pro-TRA

If one is truly gender non-conforming then surely you would not care if someone called you she, he, they etc

gender non conforming boys being forced to be in the boys group when they don't want to be - thats how Helen wants people to see this. Instead of seeing it as girls being forced to accept boys into the girls group I mean.

O is it Philip Bunce?

People need 'to get a grip'

They presumably access all areas.

That comes from a mumsnetter who made a call, who recommended it. Both get logged.

'Its my choice'

The BBC has adopted self ID as editorial policy. Just in case anyone is wondering about this car crash.