Stella Creasey is on a guest post invoking SEX as a protected characteristic for legislation!

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Right now!

Oh Em Gee!

She we help her?

You know, I'm trying to set aside my irritation.

Obviously this is not the same Stella Creasey who thinks its fine for teenage boys to masturbate in the girls showers

Methinks some of our elected representatives have started ‘peaking’.

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I haven't read it yet but are we sure it doesn't mean she is so far gone she thinks trans people actually change sex?

Well, this is interesting. But remember that if she is on the self-ID side, this may affect how she views the legal category of "sex?"

Well HQ have already banned further questions about self Id

or shut up women unless you have a penis

Lydia

This must be by biological sex or it will enshrine in law a definition of woman including XY. I will be writing to my MP to say this.

Interesting ... naturally applaud....

But why was Stonewall consulted??????????

That makes me suspicious and as if this is just one step in a two step dance....

It's obvious that's what it is. And an attempt to get women to support their redefinition.

Stella's belief that transwomen are women is misogynistic. Anyway, more deletions to come I'm sure.

I told our favourite mod ever so politely in not so many words to go forth and multiply.

I could cry. I really could. I made the totally valid point that we can't have a discussion unless we can define who it is we are protecting. And that Stellas' brilliant desire to protect women from men should protect women from men

I don't think Dawn would be so heavy handed

Hebe wouldn't be either.

No she wouldn't!

Well that's a waste of bloody time.

If TWAW then natal women can just fuck off

Oh, I got deleted. I’ll get myself deleted again because all I wrote was we‘ll stop asking questions when we get satisfactory answers. It’s against talk guidelines, apparently.

It's not really about self ID, it's more about GRC.

Jaysus, that thread is holier than a sieve

It also contains no definition of "woman"

However, the fact that there is support from the likes of Stonewall and the Fawcett Society and others who appear to have an interesting definition of "woman" and therefore (presumably) an alternative definition of misogyny, makes the entire thing a fucking head-exploding pile of confusing shite.

No woman should have to fear when she gets on a tube train that the man opposite has a mobile phone with him and what he might try to do with it

Define woman. Define man. How do we know which is which?