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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...

315 replies

PimmsnLemonade · 01/09/2018 15:10

No direct accusations against Edward Lord (the 'non-binary' freemason who is trying to remove single-sex spaces in London) but here he is describing as a "hero" a man who was a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and is a continuing "advocate" for paedophiles:

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/958632082762321922

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html

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AngryAttackKittens · 02/09/2018 13:15

Ha!

pbs.twimg.com/media/DkpaOy_XgAAJAbp.jpg

AngryAttackKittens · 02/09/2018 13:16

Trying not to imagine what their response would be to spotting a branch of Mothercare on the horizon.

LemonJello · 02/09/2018 13:19

Fuck this shit.

I think it’s time to start crowd funding for a female only island.

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/09/2018 13:25

You know how when the TRAs sound off about boycotting companies who advertise on MN and we laugh and say "As if the makers of Pampers care, they know where their market is'?

Well...

AngryAttackKittens · 02/09/2018 13:32

Do Pampers come in size Large Adult Man?

R0wantrees · 02/09/2018 13:34

The open access pages in Dr Meg-John Barker's co-written book, 'Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals' (pub 2013)
includes the index of terms and abbreviations:
www.amazon.co.uk/Sexuality-Gender-Mental-Health-Professionals/dp/085702843X?tag=mumsnetforum-21

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/09/2018 13:35

Go knows.

I've seen a screenshot somewhere where they're all talking about which brands of underwear they use. Didn't look too closely though.

Ereshkigal · 02/09/2018 13:35

Do Pampers come in size Large Adult Man?

I'm reliably informed they often use incontinence pants.

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/09/2018 13:36

God* (i hate you, ipad)

AngryAttackKittens · 02/09/2018 13:37

Maybe that'll be the next campaign, to force the makers of incontinence pants to redesign their packaging to be more adult baby friendly.

TimeLady · 02/09/2018 13:38

Oh, AAG, surely you mean "large adult woman". Wink

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 02/09/2018 13:38

I'm reliably informed they often use incontinence pants.

Pass the brain bleach. Envy not envy

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 02/09/2018 13:38

Oh, AAG, surely you mean "large adult woman"

Lollllllllll

Stop it!

IAmLurkacus · 02/09/2018 13:40

eBay once suggested to me Dora the explorer knickers in adult man size, based on my previous purchases (actual Dora stuff, for actual children) 🤢 we need a gauging own eyes out emoji

TimeLady · 02/09/2018 13:40

Don't you miss the News of the World sometimes?

C'mon MSM, there's a tie in to the David Challenor story here.

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 02/09/2018 13:41

I used to think ebay's 'well worn shoes' was enough.

i need to get some fresh air and do some gardening.

LemonJello · 02/09/2018 13:42

Maybe that'll be the next campaign, to force the makers of incontinence pants to redesign their packaging to be more adult baby friendly.

YY. I hear the customer is demanding sissy pink or big boy blue Wink

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 02/09/2018 13:42

Don't you miss the News of the World sometimes?

I never thought I'd say it but right now, yup!

BraveAndStunning · 02/09/2018 13:45

The Manics had it

Anlaf · 02/09/2018 14:45

hm. Looks like Meg John has also co-authored this book "How to Understand Your Gender" www.amazon.co.uk/Understand-Iantaffi-Meg-John-Foreword-Bergman/dp/1785927469?tag=mumsnetforum-21

Chapter 1 Section 1 tantalisingly called WHAT WORDS MEAN does not live up to promise.

So mumsnetters, if you are uncertain what words mean:
-Check with the group or person concerned...
-Be prepared to practise as much as possible using the language they've asked you to use...
-Keep checking in to what? if you think language use may have shifted over time
...
"The uncertainty raised by changing language can feel very threatening to some people...some respond to the defensiveness they feel by completely ignoring preferred terms and continuing to use the language they feel comfortable with... Some folk go even further and argue that it's wrong for people to invent new language for their experiences or to change the meaning of words over time."

Clever this innit. You spend all your time fretting that you might use the wrong word, so no time to engage your brain...

ErrolTheDragon · 02/09/2018 16:10

Ah, the Humpty Dumpty theory of language.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/09/2018 16:52

Can you imagine it

walks into office
"Good morning Nothing!"
"Ah - can I ask you what you mean today by good? and also by morning?"
"yes of course - but first I need to check - should have checked before, should I call you Nothing? Also, can I ask what you mean today by "can" "I" and "ask" and "what".....etc etc etc

terryleather · 02/09/2018 17:10

I'm beginning to think we might need to install a FWR version of this...

First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...
Ereshkigal · 02/09/2018 17:36

YY. I hear the customer is demanding sissy pink or big boy blue

How about a lovely pale pink and blue combo for their trans fans based on their iconic flag?

hackmum · 02/09/2018 18:07

"The uncertainty raised by changing language can feel very threatening to some people...some respond to the defensiveness they feel by completely ignoring preferred terms and continuing to use the language they feel comfortable with".

The horror! Imagine people using the terms they're comfortable with rather than the terms dictated to them by the thought police.