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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy have come up with. Definition of "woman"....

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BertrandRussell · 30/08/2018 07:34

...and I have very rarely been so angry.

The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy have come up with. Definition of "woman"....
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AngryAttackKittens · 30/08/2018 07:37

Oh ffs. Also, out of that collection of sexist stereotypes the only one that I've seen any of the new XY women adhere to is concern with their appearance. Nurturing? Not so much.

Cuntysnark · 30/08/2018 07:37

Are they taking the piss?

FurryDice · 30/08/2018 07:37

Oh my god, I got angrier and angrier the more I read.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

FurryDice · 30/08/2018 07:38

I’m both sad and so angry all at once. I have no idea any more what biological women are supposed to do.

Cuntysnark · 30/08/2018 07:39

Is there a definition of ‘man’?

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 07:40

Yes just saw this on twitter.

Adhering to social norms including vulnerability? As if it is a fucking affectation?

There are no fucking words.

BertrandRussell · 30/08/2018 07:42

So angry I appear to have lost the ability to spell. This is their definition of "man". Note that not conforming to the definition does not imply either some form of pathology or being from the North. "Whether trans or cisgender, intersex or not, many people identify as men. However, what this means varies a great deal depending on their other intersecting attributes. It is important not to assume, for example, that being a man necessarily involves having a penis or being physically strong. Being a man in a British cultural context often means adhering to social norms of masculinity, such as being competitive, ambitious, independent, rational, tough, sexual, con dent, dominant, taking risks, and caring about their work.
However, of course, not all men adhere to all these things. For example some men take on major child-rearing roles in the family or enter caring professions. Some young men adopt an ongoing lad or ‘man-child’ identity and may remain averse to work or responsibility, and dependent on others nancially. Many men in urban subcultures spend a lot of time and care
on their appearance, through clothing, make-up, exercise regimes, tattoos and/or piercings. As always an intersectional understanding is vital and we need to be mindful that what is culturally regarded as the epitome of masculinity is white, middle class, non-disabled, heterosexual, cisgender, and physically t. This strongly shapes men’s experiences of manhood."

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redshoeblueshoe · 30/08/2018 07:42

In some northern working class contexts femininity is associated with strength and aggression

Ha fucking ha

Is it 1st April already ?

wurzelburga · 30/08/2018 07:45

Can you post their dfinition of „ man“ for comparison.

wurzelburga · 30/08/2018 07:46

Sorry - just seen that you have [ blush ]

Sarahandduck18 · 30/08/2018 07:47

What a load of bollocks

vicviking · 30/08/2018 07:50

Retrogade nonsense. They should be ashamed of such sexist garbage. How is my being competitive at work or in my sport performing masculinity? It is me just being me. How is DH giving a sod about his family performing femininity? Isn't it just being a human being? They need to go back to the drawing board. Or is this a spoof?

littlbrowndog · 30/08/2018 07:50

This comes from somewhere else. Perhaps rowan rember s where it was

Was a big document

Assigned northern at birth here- rough

IAmLurkacus · 30/08/2018 07:51

Well they can FUCK OFF.

How much of a naval gazing wanker do you have to be to write something like that? Never mind the blind leading the blind, it’s the delusional treating the delusional!

That should be widely shared with the ‘northern working classes’ how deeply fucking offensive!

vicviking · 30/08/2018 07:51

Sorry just realised there is another thread on this

MinecraftHolmes · 30/08/2018 07:52

Fucks. Sake.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/08/2018 07:52

I was assigned ornery at birth. Perhaps it's regional? In which case presumably they need to make sure to take steps to be inclusive of my desire to tell them to fuck off.

lrh3891 · 30/08/2018 07:52

WTAF?? Are they taking the piss? Are you sure this is real?? What a load of utter, utter shite from start to finish!!

BertrandRussell · 30/08/2018 07:54

Damn- sorry, didn’t stop to check if there was another thread. Let’s decamp!

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NotSureThisIsWhatIWant · 30/08/2018 07:54

I just realised, after your 7:42 post that I am actually, not a woman but a man. Albeit one without penis, who is attracted to men but who is not white...

Where does that leave me? My world is shattered! Grin

wurzelburga · 30/08/2018 07:55

Showed this to DH who responded with “but they (BACP) are mad anyway so what would you expect”.....

littlbrowndog · 30/08/2018 07:56

It was the partner of the mason the lord who was doing that survey for London city aieeee

I can’t rember the name

AngryAttackKittens · 30/08/2018 07:57

What other thread? Also, what do they plan to do if they encounter a strong willed, assertive women who doesn't like makeup and isn't Northern? Is the next step to suggest testosterone patches?

LemonJello · 30/08/2018 07:57

Translation:

The definition of women is stereotypes.

Some women may not adhere to these stereotypes because they are unable to for medical reasons.

It is important to be aware of the local acaceptable stereotypes for women, so that you are able to correctly identify them from the men.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/08/2018 07:58

Can she say she identifies as being from Newcastle and will they then leave her alone?