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Thread 2 - Anti-trans vandals are plastering vile ‘women don’t have penises’ stickers around THE WORLD

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CesiraAndEnrico · 21/08/2018 09:00

First thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331514-anti-trans-vandals-are-plastering-vile-women-don-t-have-penises-stickers-around-london

I'm optimistic this will spill over to most of the MSM soon, and keep on being a snowball, gathering momentum and mass, as it rolls down the snowy mountain of bullshit forced upon us all.

So here is thread 2, ready & waiting for the speed to pick up.

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Procrastinator1 · 30/08/2018 14:08

I am terrible at this sort of thing. I have printed a sheet off and they come out around 2.5mm in diameter. The photo comes out well, and the text. The cut little penis just looks like a happy face now.

Procrastinator1 · 30/08/2018 14:16

Unfortunately my sticker paper came into contact with a five pound note and whilst the sticker paper did indeed stick, it could quite easily be peeled off without any noticeable damage to the note. Contact was brief.

Procrastinator1 · 30/08/2018 22:59

Cute not cut, thought both are accurate. Will baby Cesira be back for Christmas? He might find Christmas decorations at home are rather unique.

Procrastinator1 · 30/08/2018 23:04

Thinking about paper chain for Christmas, just thought we could do willie bunting.

BlackeyedSusan · 31/08/2018 02:17

You need the willy woolly hugs team for knitted and crocheted willies.

CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 07:40

Baby Cesira will be back by next week. But a week is a very very very very long time in Italian Parents World. I'm not sure when it happened but the Italian Body Snatchers got me, and I have evidently assimilated (and then some) on the Italian Mamma score. Grin Sad

DH sleepily knocked on DS's bedroom door yesterday morning to ask what time he needed a lift to the gym. His poor face when I reminded him the room was empty.

God help us when he moves out for good. I suddenly have a lot more sympathy for the late PILs. Who clung on valiantly till DH was 30 and felt like their world had ended when he finally wriggled away. Even though he still went to their home everyday for lunch, and dinner the nights I could not be arsed to cook, for the next 6 years

Thanks Procrastinator, sounds like the template is fine ? Would people prefer sheets of all the same image/slogan, or mixed sheets with different types ?

We have de-penisedifed Green Willy + male member for outside the envelope. Mug Shot/NoSelfID should also be ok on the outside, no ?

Full green willies for the inside of the envelope flap, so seen only by the opener, and anybody else they show. Might be able to squish a proper pink cock in the space, but not sure if the text will hold up at that size. They might have to be a separate, larger sized run.

Any other suggestions for both inside and out ?

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CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 07:50

This looks like a gift to the #StickerWoman fight back

Anybody know where the original was posted ? I need a higher res copy and permission wouldn't hurt.

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Ineedacupofteadesperately · 31/08/2018 07:58

Bloody hell, that's not a spoof is it? Is CL a mother? Just, wow. Does she know what DC did? When she says we should "listen" and "learn" does she mean to monsters who torture and rape 10 year olds while wearing a dress, like him? Most people will read this and think "no thanks, fuck off now"......

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 31/08/2018 08:00

Ah, it is a spoof, for a second thought it was real, not much sleep, bloody effective though. Would deffo print that out and stick around the place......

Procrastinator1 · 31/08/2018 08:40

Would it be possible to have the original pink penis in middle and the words women don't have penises around the outside, sort of like a coin?

Glad to hear baby Cesira will be back soon, I thought he might to going to board at school or even that he was going to university.

I go to Brighton quite often, that Caroline Lucas spoof is spot on. I think she has a son

CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 08:53

Procrastinstor

I do have a app that will create text on a curve. But it fucks up the resolution. Makes it so low that a printed version will be just one big fuzz at that size.

Also worth remembering that some people can't, or won't read/register text on a curve. I don't know if it is my impatient ADHD, or the dyslexia but curved text might as well be Martian to me. That's not me being "inclusivity !" . Just wanting to maximise the number of eyes that see, read and go "what's all this about ?" rather than sliding off and not really registering any impact.

Pink cocks that look like cocks will have to go on the inside flap or risk not getting delivered I think. So they could be a bit bigger, and the text should be readable in the current formation. I'll have a play with sizes.

Do people want a four sticker sheet of the CL parody if I can find a higher res version and get permission ?

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LangCleg · 31/08/2018 09:17

DH sleepily knocked on DS's bedroom door yesterday morning to ask what time he needed a lift to the gym. His poor face when I reminded him the room was empty.

Mine's like that! We have both of ours at the moment and this state of affairs will probably continue for between six months (when one goes) and a year (when the other goes, if his plans come to fruition). The DH is already mooching about and sighing "Only a year left".

Procrastinator1 · 31/08/2018 09:21

Cesira, anything you can do is really helpful, thank you.

A four sticker sheet sounds fine.

CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 11:39

LangCleg

I always thought of Impending Empty Nest syndrome as being a female-centric issue. Probably cos we always see it represented that way. But I've gathered via friends that my DH (and yours) is far from alone in being the Male Birdie camp.

In some ways I think he is going to take it much harder. He's DS's chief taxi driver and number one fan in the stands for every match and training. There is going to be a many houred hole in his life when our chick flies off.

Procrasinator

I'll go see if I can track down the higher res original and get permission to reproduce. Was it first spotted on twitter ?

Should have some envelop sticker sheets to choose from by morning at the latest. Rain (and drowned Portico) permitting.

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CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 14:10

First outside of envelope stickers.

Nice and polite so your post arrives and avoids being shredded or something. (pretty sure the Lame Italian Postal Donkey eats my mail stickers, or no stickers, but sure you have more high tech options for Rude Stickers On Mail Disposal)

48 to a sheet.

Have some concerns they will be hard for some people (e.g. uncoordinated, left handed me) to cut out.

Should I make another one with fewer stickers and more white space ?

drive.google.com/open?id=1-fsjA3n5NAmMDaXDeUOVN6PTHL9wX7ci

About to start playing with sizing for a the realistic pink cartoon penis + WDHP as an "inside envelope flap" set. Will have to bigger for visible text reasons I think.

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CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 14:36

Don't say I didn't,t warn you about my distractability issooshs

Christmas Cocks, for inside flap, not outside envelope use. Or you mail might not get there. And I know how hyper-organised some of you are about beating the Xmas postal rush.

drive.google.com/open?id=1-gjffCJqV6YFAjKeDYnM4ArKkUC1VCfF

I will now go and do the stickers I was supposed to be doing.

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LiverpoolReSisters · 31/08/2018 17:00

Thanks, they've been uploaded to our dropbox.

CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 17:13

Liverpool

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I dedicate the Christmas one to you lot especially. I hope by the time Xmas comes around your gift from Mother Clause is a well deserved break cos you were the bale that gave the camel the right hump and he pissed off, refusing to play Buggering Up Biology anymore.

😘😘

Also, I need some help, from people who are concise , can spell and can remember their point for more than a nanosecond.

Need to summarise the issues raised about self ID via the lens of the David Challenor case for Dad's, granddads, brothers, husbands, boyfriends, brothers etc.

I'm going nowhere fast on my own. The posters are up for those male groups. But the QR code links to the lovely person who wants to "staple vaginas shut and push womens head in dog pee". As awful as that person is, kind of looks small potatoes compared to D. Challenor in his frilly dress and nappy while being evil beyond all belief to a little girl.

I can also use an Augmented Reality app to hover a video over any of the posters if people have a video they think should get more exposure.

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CoteDAzur · 31/08/2018 17:19

Cesira - "Anybody know where the original was posted ? "

Guardian.

Procrastinator1 · 31/08/2018 17:24

I saw it here. Interesting, do you have to get the Guardian's permission?

CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 17:24

Cote

Sorry ! I meant the original spoof, not the original headline it was based on. I wasn't clear enough.

I'm trawling twitter, but it's not easy to find. As soon as I think I've scrolled past a huge chunk and must be getting closer, the page refreshes with a whole new heap of new tweets pour in and I lose my place.

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Procrastinator1 · 31/08/2018 17:24

Here twitter.com/pomoshire/status/1035230691859066881

CesiraAndEnrico · 31/08/2018 17:27

Ta !

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CesiraAndEnrico · 01/09/2018 19:10

I got distracted. Again. But silver lining, on another thread a poster hit on the perfect slogan for one image.

drive.google.com/open?id=1-_MLK5ZEoMXMIp3yalQMpYSUslkFvQEF

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ChattyLion · 03/09/2018 06:35

Cote I read that Caroline Lucas of he Green Party article you linked to: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/30/look-future-aimee-challenor-trans-green-party-caroline-lucas.

What an appalling load of internal contradictions. It’s very hard to follow such is her conflict in trying to describe black as white.

I can understand people being confused, because if you have a normal set of thought processes, this ‘inclusive’ agenda IS transparently man-pleasing, woman and child- endangering bullshit. Not inclusive at all and very unsafe.

Although you might also think that if a political party leader were as doubtful and confused about all this as Lucas says she is, she wouldn’t have let ‘transowmen are women’ become her party’s effing policy.?!

She also apparently doesn’t even understand the GRA. The law doesn’t say ‘men are now women’ - it allows some (not all) legal documents to be reissued as part of a legal fiction. Written in an age where same sex marriage was not permitted. So being able to be recognised as the opposite sex for limited paperwork reasons had practical value back then and that was fair enough in allowing trans people to marry if they wished.

However that positive argument for the GRA has been outdated now because rightly there are no bars to same sex marriage any more and we have same-sex civil partnership too.

But given the concerns to women and risks to women and children of misuse of the GRA by numerous organisations who (like Caroline Lucas and the Greens) appear not to don’t understand it and feel they can’t invoke same single sex exemptions in their service provision... there needs to be clarity around the GRA exemptions and the whole area could do with looking at again.

Anyway this is not to detract from the appalling lack of evidence for the policy espoused by Lucas and the Greens- I find it really appalling that she and her co- leaders will use their half- formed ideas to not only to form party policy but also to urge others to suspend their evidenced concerns in favour of ‘listening and learning more’- as she argues for in this piece. Angry

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