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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

John Bercow's rant about Gender Critical women

138 replies

junebedford82 · 05/07/2018 17:27

Just saw this on P*k News
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/04/speaker-john-bercow-tells-pinknews-reception-2/

Bercow
"There’s still a huge challenge in terms of the trans community. We need to up our level of standing up for the rights of trans people. We shouldn’t allow people to peddle anti-trans messages under the guise of trying to protect other people’s rights. We shouldn’t let people muddy the waters in that way. It’s just not people screaming abuse in the streets – it’s sometimes people who have access to the media and can write articulately, and are using their position to push messages which I think result in very considerable and dangerous displays of hostility to trans people. Up with that we must not put, as Churchill might have said.”

What on earth is he doing? How can a supposedly-independent speaker intervene on something in the middle of the government consultation?

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R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 15:18

Kathleen Stock:

"I've just had the most unbelievably pompous "URGENT" email from Pinknews calling me 'transphobic', asking me for comment on my Argus interview, and telling me to get back tomorrow morning on this in bold."

twitter.com/Docstockk/status/1014972746420445185

BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 15:32

Are people posting to HoC or constituency office?

Should we have a common sign off?

.........

Wow, PNews sounding unbelievably pompous there. Do they really not understand that issuing demands to women like that is inherently misogynistic? Or do they just not care?

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 15:33

Speakers Office
He hosted as the Speaker
In the Speaker's House.

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 15:34

address:

Speakers Office
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 15:35

@SwearyG @Yesitsadebate

OlennasWimple · 06/07/2018 15:38

The Pink News have now published the article on Stock (it's such a non-news story, they must be desperate for copy to fill their pages]]

arranfan · 06/07/2018 15:39

But, but, Churchill quotations are articulate and That's Not Fair! And a massive own goal and proves Bercow's point for him...

Or, is it OK because it's a man being quoted? Confused

Should GC women be able to read or anything? Or are just suitable as kindling for the bonfire of civil liberties ? Will we not need to read to grasp what's being taught in the re-education camps or is it fine as long as we can recite, "Comprehension is not requisite for coercion cooperation""?

YesItsADebate · 06/07/2018 15:53

Oh, I am so writing a postcard.

He’s obviously cross with me because I told him to stop fannying around with swords and get voting buttons installed in the HoC over the summer recess Grin

What a muppet.

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 15:59

The Pink News have now published the article on Stock (it's such a non-news story, they must be desperate for copy to fill their pages

I think this segment is significant.

"A trans rights campaigner. (Getty)Stock is set to speak at the A Woman’s Place Is Turning The Tide event this month, which is being hosted by the contentious Woman’s Place UK.

The group opposes the government’s proposed reform of the 2004 Gender Recognition Act, for which the consultation launched this week"

I can't help but read it and imagine a big foam finger pointing 'this way!

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 16:01

PN have form for this stylistic 'quirk'.

cf
"‘Man Friday’ campaigner Amy Desir, who recently staged a topless protest at a men-only swimming session to protest the inclusion of transgender women in women’s spaces, was behind the petition ahead of a government consultation on reforms to the Gender Recognition Act.

The government is set to consult on plans to streamline the gender recognition process to allow transgender people to more easily gain legal recognition – but the petition claimed it could “impact on women-only services and spaces” and challenge “the principle of single-sex spaces.”

The petition gained more than 10,000 signatures after heavy promotion on internet forum Mumsnet, which has become a “hotbed” of anti-transgender campaigning in recent months."

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/05/government-response-petition-anti-transgender-feminist-campaigners/

YesItsADebate · 06/07/2018 16:33

I have sent my postcard

John Bercow's rant about Gender Critical women
John Bercow's rant about Gender Critical women
yearofthewoman · 06/07/2018 16:35

I want to join in with the post cards, but want to check I'm doing it right!!

So are we we're getting any old postcard and writing an appropriate Orwell quote on it?

Or are we making a postcard like the images above, and sending one of those?

Or - either of these options?

yearofthewoman · 06/07/2018 16:37

Cross posts - like your postcard YesItsADebate!

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 16:40

yearofthewoman

I've sent a Winston Churchill quote because Bercow chose to quote him!

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 16:43

I found this postcard in a lovely local shop though!

John Bercow's rant about Gender Critical women
YesItsADebate · 06/07/2018 16:48

Any you fancy. The more random, the better!

LangCleg · 06/07/2018 16:52

Ok. I wrote a Churchillian postcard and sent the DH up to the post box with it. I put a lipstick kiss on it as well and crossed it out. Being childish an' all.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 06/07/2018 16:52

I've sent him a random PC of Culzean castle Grin

Waddlelikeapenguin · 06/07/2018 16:53

lang that made me laugh, SWALK crossed out for letters? Grin

LangCleg · 06/07/2018 16:56

Yep! I am a mature woman, y'see.

R0wantrees · 06/07/2018 17:00

See, no "screaming" in the streets, just popping postcards in the post box!

SwearyG · 06/07/2018 19:13

I made one on TouchNote.

John Bercow's rant about Gender Critical women
John Bercow's rant about Gender Critical women
RogerAllamsFangirl · 06/07/2018 19:15

Genius sweary. Can you get those on the #manfriday website?

RogerAllamsFangirl · 06/07/2018 19:16

I particularly love that you said "lavatories" rather than "toilets"! Muchos middle class kudos!

YesItsADebate · 06/07/2018 20:50

Grin you lad/ies are classic. @LangCleg you are #savage.

I’m encouraging the #ManFriday lot to put their postcards up here too. They’re too good not to share. Some poor Parliamentary aide is going to wonder what on Earth is going on!