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3 strikes and you're out

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spontaneousgiventime · 18/06/2018 13:33

Sorry to start this thread but I'm livid. I'm beyond livid to be fair.

I'm now on strike two and have been warned my posting privilege is at risk.

The reason for this thread is; please don't take the new guidelines at face value. I got a strike today for calling a man who presents as a woman a name NOT on the banned list. Obviously now I can't say what it was, I am effectively gagged.

I now have six weeks of no free speech until the strikes I have are wiped - again effectively gagged.

So, you won't see me much as I will NOT refer to men who present as women as the names we are allowed to call them, so will end up banned. I will post bland banal comments that can't offend any sensibilities here and let rip elsewhere where free speech is encouraged.

PLEASE, please, watch your words or MN will use this as a reason the close the FWR board.

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Datun · 19/06/2018 00:20

If the ghostly one is back they will be permanently deleted as HQ take a dim view of previously banned posters.

thebewilderness · 19/06/2018 00:20

Ghost Tess is on this thread as Wraith Tess because I guess they enjoy baiting the mods.

thebewilderness · 19/06/2018 00:21

That is likely what they came here for in the first place.

Datun · 19/06/2018 00:24

@WraithTess are you GhostTess?

WraithTess · 19/06/2018 00:25

Not so much, I came to engage in discourse but got brigaded by you all. I mean MN said they were going to allow discourse but I've seen precious little to date. Just hate hate hate.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 19/06/2018 00:27

I’ve not seen hate, though I’ve seen a bunch of people disagree with you.

Report any posts you think oughtn’t to be allowed. I did, and several of yours were deleted.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2018 00:29

Redefining 'brigading' now too, as 'newcomer being disagreed with by several regular members of a forum'?

BlackeyedSusan · 19/06/2018 00:29

we regularly unplug the fecking router. the bloody internet connection is fucked. right in the middle of the football and I am sporting a nice new bruise and a bin of broken glass as small boy had an autistic meltdown

BlackeyedSusan · 19/06/2018 00:30

pbp?

WraithTess · 19/06/2018 00:30

I think it's more because standards of behaviour here have slid so far hate seems normal. I see a post still in this thread that refers to an explicitly banned term is still visible. So there's definitely some double standards happening.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2018 00:32

Report that post (I don't know which you're referring to) if you believe it contravenes guidelines.

JuzzaL · 19/06/2018 00:37

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WraithTess · 19/06/2018 00:38

Disagreement isn't the problem, mass reporting is. It makes people look guilty even when there is nothing to be guilty of.

Point of fact. I'm a trans woman and have been constantly misgendered with some even refusing to use my full name. But if I compare my situation to that of another woman I'm reported for it, just because you don't believe it to be true. That offensiveness cuts both ways and since I was silenced never allow discourse here on the issue at all.

I mean isn't the heart of the disagreement that you feel trans women aren't women and I do? But we apparently can't discuss what a woman is, or my experiences as such in an attempt to find common ground. So what discourse can actually occur?

So far as it seems the summarised arguement of your point of view is women=biology and that can never be changed. Even though that reasoning is particularly flawed.

thebewilderness · 19/06/2018 00:39

pbp, Previously Banned Poster now here wearing a sock puppet.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2018 00:41

Disagreement isn't the problem, mass reporting is.

Huh? How is anyone on a thread supposed to know who else has or hasn't reported a post? Confused

Datun · 19/06/2018 00:41

WraithTess

Are you a previously banned poster? If you are, you are breaching MN guidelines with every post.

WraithTess · 19/06/2018 00:42

I am not the only previously banned poster in the thread. So I believed my actions to be acceptable based on their examples.

Datun · 19/06/2018 00:43

So I believed my actions to be acceptable based on their examples.

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath.

thebewilderness · 19/06/2018 00:43

The purpose of the claim is to discourage people from reporting the sock puppet by asserting that many people report when in reality very few do.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2018 00:46

If anyone else is a PBP then they're liable to be banned too. Someone was asking if they could just re-reg- as you've shown, it's possible but it's not allowed. Some posters might get away with it for a while but IME never for long.

So if anyone does get suspended, sit on your hands and wait out your sentence, don't break the rules, that would probably and reasonably lead to a permanent ban.

Amalfimamma · 19/06/2018 00:49

Wraith, ghost, Tess, lily whatever your identity is today, I reported you for the goadymess and sheer hatred each one of your posts oozed. You didn't come here for discourse. You came here to goad us and then act the victor on Twitter, get banned and play the victim and maybe ask for a donation seeing as you've overspent This month too

👋🖐 we see ya

Datun · 19/06/2018 00:50

But if I compare my situation to that of another woman I'm reported for it,

Someone born male claiming it makes them an infertile woman and then pugnaciously comparing themself to an infertile woman on the same thread, to her evident distress, should absolutely be reported.

Ffs.

Datun · 19/06/2018 00:50
GardenGeek · 19/06/2018 00:53

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