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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Channel 4's Genderquake Debate is heavily criticised/ boycotted(?) by prominent transgender activists & allies .

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R0wantrees · 08/05/2018 17:11

Transgender campaigners and organisations have released an open letter to Channel 4 criticising Genderquake, a season of programmes touted as an exploration of the gender debate, as "counterproductive".
Signees are particularly concerned about Genderquake: The Debate, a studio discussion hosted by Cathy Newman that promises to look at what gender means in 2018. It will discuss topics including: 'what defines our gender identity', 'how that affects our rights', 'should it be easier to change gender' and 'does gender matter'.

The letter, published by indy100 in full below, argues that the debate will give legitimacy to transphobia, prejudice and the notion that trans identities are up for discussion. This concern is presumably stoked by the presence of Australian-born academic and writer Germaine Greer on the panel, who has previously said transgender women "can't be women". continues...

"The letter is published in full below and has been signed by dozens of prominent transgender and non-binary activists and campaigners - and allies - alike, including Fox Fisher, Owl, Stephanie Hirst, Juno Roche, Travis Alabanza, Kate Llewellyn, Jack Monroe and India Willoughby."

www.indy100.com/article/genderquake-the-debate-transphobia-channel-4-open-letter-campaigners-germaine-greer-8341481

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:10

Isn't it great that the internet can tell us who we are as a person

Sontaran · 08/05/2018 22:10

Ash looked like she was looking round to get patted on the head after "helpfully" explaining cisgender and being "assigned female at birth" Hmm Confused

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:10

Why does no-one ever challenge those suicide stats!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:11

Mip that's a very encouraging statement.

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:12

Men can have periods Hmm

DoubleRamsey · 08/05/2018 22:12

Caitlin Jenner says her children call her dad.

They went around and asked people their pronouns.

There are two M-F
I think one F-M
Someone 'non binary' (I think born female)
Two gender critical women
One non gender 'CIS' woman

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:14

Love GG Grin

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:15

oh, Germaine

so, so brilliant

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:16

Woo-Hoo GG

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:16

And love Sarah too...

AbsintheFriends · 08/05/2018 22:17

Sarah aced that. I'd be standing on my sofa applauding if it wouldn't upset the cat.

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:17

SD - people can wear/do what they want they don't need to change their bodies to match what they think (paraphrasing).

Badgerthebodger · 08/05/2018 22:18

Germaine and particularly Sarah a fantastic start. I think Caitlin is being given too much time. I’m not sure she has as much to contribute as she thinks.

SarahCarer · 08/05/2018 22:18

Yes GG! "Feminity is a lie!"

northender · 08/05/2018 22:18

Wow, they both spoke really well. CJ clearly missing the point

boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:18

I liked Sarah’s comments about Prince and Grace Jones playing with femininity and masculinity and how much more interesting that is.

WTF is Jenner going on about?

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:19

I wouldn't want to go up against GG, particularly if my main argument was some vastly inflated suicide statistics.

Sontaran · 08/05/2018 22:19

Jenner just rambling bollocks tbh.

TinselAngel · 08/05/2018 22:19

I see usual gender roles are being followed by giving Caitlin Jenner the most airtime and by assuming she's the world's foremost authority.

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:19

CJ had far too much air time that segment with little to really say.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 08/05/2018 22:19

Arrgghh living vicariously through this thread - will it be on catch up?

boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:19

Sarah managed to mention desisters and the ticking time bomb too.

Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 22:20

CJ too much talking time.

DuddlePluck · 08/05/2018 22:20

Sarah's nailing it so far...

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:20

Yes, it should be Waddle