Channel 4's Genderquake Debate is heavily criticised/ boycotted(?) by prominent transgender activists & allies .

[R0wantrees]

Transgender campaigners and organisations have released an open letter to Channel 4 criticising Genderquake, a season of programmes touted as an exploration of the gender debate, as "counterproductive".
Signees are particularly concerned about Genderquake: The Debate, a studio discussion hosted by Cathy Newman that promises to look at what gender means in 2018. It will discuss topics including: 'what defines our gender identity', 'how that affects our rights', 'should it be easier to change gender' and 'does gender matter'.

The letter, published by indy100 in full below, argues that the debate will give legitimacy to transphobia, prejudice and the notion that trans identities are up for discussion. This concern is presumably stoked by the presence of Australian-born academic and writer Germaine Greer on the panel, who has previously said transgender women "can't be women". continues...

"The letter is published in full below and has been signed by dozens of prominent transgender and non-binary activists and campaigners - and allies - alike, including Fox Fisher, Owl, Stephanie Hirst, Juno Roche, Travis Alabanza, Kate Llewellyn, Jack Monroe and India Willoughby."

www.indy100.com/article/genderquake-the-debate-transphobia-channel-4-open-letter-campaigners-germaine-greer-8341481

Are you sure Kenny Jones isn't the 23 year old transman who recently fronted a period campaign (even though Kenny doesn't get periods anymore)?

I want hate crimes abolished. Unless you are actually encouraging other people to physically harm people "punch a terf" "kill all terfs" etc then it's just intellectual debate and argument and is fine.
Upsetting people and making them feel a bit unsettled because they can't cope with people arguing with them or saying men can't actually "be" women is not a hate crime, it's just a point of view which if you are a man wanting to be seen as a woman you should be able to argue with without trying to shut down debate.

Shouldn't the panel be half male / female and half gender critical/ half gender ideological?
Otherwise where's the debate?

Worried about how this will go if critical voices are so minimised.

Saw this on Twitter she said she was on panel with Kenny and Catlyn. They better have more than just 1 GC panelist. Would LOVE to hear from Bindle or Datun I think they'd rip the rest of them to shreds...

@leyat yes that would make more sense actually I did wonder what they'd got the drummer from The Who on there for....

Re transphobia as a hate crime; basically yes, but hate crimes have to be crimes in their own right, with said hate as an aggravating factor. So for eg in this story, a man is referred to as harassing a transwoman and as such it is then deemed both as a crime and as a hate crime, although the conviction was overturned because the harassment wasn't proved: www.thesun.co.uk/news/2780007/entrepreneur-acquitted-of-harassing-a-transgender-person-and-calling-her-an-old-geezer-during-transition/

I hope this id s civil debate and everyone gets a good chance to speak.

Can't believe what has happened to GG over the past decade. She's such an icon to me and I hope she's aware of the strength of feeling behind her on this debate. She stands for all of us.

I think there will be a diverse audience which is good. I'm hoping it will be a panel vs audience style debate. I've seen a couple of people I follow on twitter also off to the debate (assuming they mean to watch) including Rose of Dawn so hopefully transexual rights will get a mention....

It's C4 though so I imagine GG will be presented as a dinosaur with irrelevant and offensive views.

This is actually nerve racking. There's no telling how this will go.

Really hoping this goes well and good luck to Sweary and Posie
As a brief aside...someone pthrrad mentioned Datun. I haven’t seen her post for a bit. Anyone know if she’s name changed or has she left?

I saw her posting about a week ago...
I can't imagine she would have said anything to get herself banned....

I can't wait to hear Germaine get stuck in again and yes, I too am worried for Datun. I saw a comment on a thread late last week that said she'd been deleted/banned but can't find it now to see what it was all about.

GG in the telly this evening you say? I had better get up.

Yes!!!!! These are the questions!!!

They are the questions, but what will be the answers....

Is this where we’re watching live?

Straight in there with the can women have penises, no messing!

Yay Sarah Ditum is there!

Pronouns

GG is brilliant.

Can people update? I. Can't watch

I'm sure I spotted Julia Long in the audience behind the one who id as cis she.

Has anyone seen the statement from London Fire Brigade LGBT? feel it's been released to coincide with this debate.

www.socfem.net/2018/05/london-fbu-lgbt

That pronoun circle was really awkward. Sarah Ditum staking her flag there. It did make me wonder how much longer meeting would take in my place of work if we had to do that at the start of every meeting.