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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Channel 4's Genderquake Debate is heavily criticised/ boycotted(?) by prominent transgender activists & allies .

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R0wantrees · 08/05/2018 17:11

Transgender campaigners and organisations have released an open letter to Channel 4 criticising Genderquake, a season of programmes touted as an exploration of the gender debate, as "counterproductive".
Signees are particularly concerned about Genderquake: The Debate, a studio discussion hosted by Cathy Newman that promises to look at what gender means in 2018. It will discuss topics including: 'what defines our gender identity', 'how that affects our rights', 'should it be easier to change gender' and 'does gender matter'.

The letter, published by indy100 in full below, argues that the debate will give legitimacy to transphobia, prejudice and the notion that trans identities are up for discussion. This concern is presumably stoked by the presence of Australian-born academic and writer Germaine Greer on the panel, who has previously said transgender women "can't be women". continues...

"The letter is published in full below and has been signed by dozens of prominent transgender and non-binary activists and campaigners - and allies - alike, including Fox Fisher, Owl, Stephanie Hirst, Juno Roche, Travis Alabanza, Kate Llewellyn, Jack Monroe and India Willoughby."

www.indy100.com/article/genderquake-the-debate-transphobia-channel-4-open-letter-campaigners-germaine-greer-8341481

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theaveragewife · 08/05/2018 22:21

I’m getting frustrated with the imbalance of panelists and wanting them to stop chattering and get down to it.

Lefthanddown · 08/05/2018 22:21

Is rose of dawn in the audience too?

KJ isn't answering the questions, is very rambly.

Cwenthryth · 08/05/2018 22:21

Who is Ash? She’s quite literally simpering at Caitlyn Jenner.

Sarah Ditum on fire, however, she is addressing her comments toward people who already have knowledge on this issue - referencing desisting etc.

Do they not understand that Prince, Grace Jones etc were experimenting with gender stereotypes BUT THEY DID NOT CLAIM TO ACTUALLY BE THE OPPOSITE SEX!

Lemonjello · 08/05/2018 22:21

Mumsnet mention in the ad break 😂

PlectrumElectrum · 08/05/2018 22:22

Yes re Rose of Dawn, tweeted earlier saying I'm way to this.

DJLippy · 08/05/2018 22:22

Do you think Germaine Greer would marry me if I asked nicely? Would do T for her if it would help my cause...

PlectrumElectrum · 08/05/2018 22:23

I'm? On!

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:23

£140 to change gender and access women's spaces.

EachandEveryone · 08/05/2018 22:23

Haven’t those suicide statistics always been the same? I remember them in my nurse training in 1992, surely they’ve come down since then?

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:23

no cis-gender person is going to want to change their sex

How do you know Munroe Buergdorf?

jeez

Sevendown · 08/05/2018 22:23

I read the whole woman when it came out.

I agreed with GG then and still do now.

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:24

oh shut up MB, your socialisation is showing

Lefthanddown · 08/05/2018 22:24

Hope Sarah is allowed to get her point over

Sontaran · 08/05/2018 22:25

DJ I don't think Germaine Greer wants to get married again, from what I remember, sorry!

LikeAZombie · 08/05/2018 22:25

Rose of dawn is there

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:25

SD is on fire but being shouted over.

boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:25

Didn’t take long for everyone to start talking over each other. 🙄

DJLippy · 08/05/2018 22:26

This show is peaktransing my skeptic sister - well done!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:26

Don't know.why Newman wouldn't let Ditum finish Hmm

nauticant · 08/05/2018 22:26

Who is Ash? She’s quite literally simpering at Caitlyn Jenner.

Ash Sarkar (twitter.com/AyoCaesar) is someone in a peculiar media outfit called Novara Media and is a complete idiot. Utterly self-satisfied and self-absorbed.

NotTerfNorCis · 08/05/2018 22:27

Bergdorf and Jenner deliberately missing the point there, and the presenter shouting Sarah down. Frustrating!

boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:27

£140 to change gender and access women's spaces.

I am surprised at the modest fee. I had assumed it was a lot higher.

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:28

MB shouting over SD while hair flicking Hmm

Sontaran · 08/05/2018 22:28

Novara Media has a lot of YouTube videos featuring Shon Faye. That probably won't surprise you!

Badgerthebodger · 08/05/2018 22:28

FGS we’re back to toilets