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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NUS Conference breaks down after the UK Border Force Arrive

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DJLippy · 01/05/2018 15:27

The following is made up from tweets from the #NUStrans18 conference which seems to have gone slightly awry after the gender neutral toilet signs were removed. They'd been stuck up the day before, converting the women's bathroom to the gender neutral bathroom, so that they'd have 'men's toilets' and 'non-men's toilets.'
Thing's started innocently enough

"I am fucking fuming
Once again food is a mess. Vegan option was a total after thought many of us can't eat it due to allergies and IBS. So what are we supposed to eat for lunch? Leaves. #NUStrans18"

Some bright spark at the hotel scheduled a simultaneous conference for the UK Border Patrol and that's when things started to heat up

"The gender neutral signs at #NUStrans18 have dissapeared entirely, I'm blaming the border force, in the meantime I have awkwardly trudged into the womens toilet that used to be gender neutral. Cue enby screaming"

"#NUStrans18 is one of the few places we feel relatively safe but now here we are on edge because UK Brdr F*rce are here."

They decided to take matters into their own hands

"Currently in occupation of the bathroom lobby #bathroomcaucus #nustrans18"

"Be careful of slippery floors in the gender neutral bathroom - we have some cis tears 💦 #BathroomCaucus #Toiletgate #NUSTrans18"

cis tears or man piss?

"#NUStrans18 white people can we PLEASE listen to POC about engaging with the border force"

"#nustrans18 so update on what happened in the bathroom caucus: We were guarding the gender neutral sign, but weren’t in the way of the doors or anything
And a cis woman came in (not even to pee), saw the sign and went off 2/??
She started saying ‘what about our toilets’ to which we informed her that the gender neutral toilets are for everyone, and if she was uncomfortable she could use the women’s upstairs
She starts shouting ‘one at a time! Respect my authority! We’re here for longer than you!’"

"whoever occupied the bathrooms, you gonna apologise to your POC delegates? #nustrans18"

"great lil update from Finn on #BathroomCaucus these people are attempting to deny our right to pee and we were simply defending that, we were just minding our own business, she’s the one that got angry and aggressive and in our faces #NUSTrans18"

"#nustrans18 I sincerely apologise if mine or any other delegates actions escalated conflict/racism towards QTPOC. The thing is, I honestly don’t know what else I could have done? I didn’t provoke her, I didn’t get in her face."

"I'd like to apologise formally for the misunderstanding and poor handling of the situation that happened in the past hour. We never set out to aggrivate anyone or intended to cause unnecessary stress. I'm extremely sorry #NUStrans18"

Then identity politic work battles begin.

"I want to sincerely apologise for the statement I delivered post-motions at #NUSTrans18. It was insensitive given the nature of the situation regarding QPOC discrimination at the event. I'm autistic and completely failed in my reading of the tone of the room, but it's no excuse."

"Okay so white people at #nustrans18, us PoC are very, very exhausted from dealing with all the racist microaggressions here. We need reparations so please send us pizza, snacks, cigarettes, chocolate, dinner money etc. My PayPal is "

I'm sorry if people find this reporting offensive because they're young and vulnerable youth but might I remind you that these students represent our future elites. In 20 years time they'll be writing our laws. Also, it's f%cking hilarious. See, this tweet they're pretty succinct

"NB: Some of the motions at #NUStrans18 could be interpreted as attacking women’s rights/protections, or even as anti-feminist “hate speech”. The response is a bit of criticism and piss-taking on twitter NOT attempts to close down and disrupt the event, or pickets by masked thugs."

The NUS Needs to have a word with itself. If these students are vulnerable and this explains their behaviour then should they really be voting on issues which affect the entire student body? Are they being used as pawns in someone else's agenda?

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TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 19:53

Apparently the trans-vegans are revolting

twitter.com/Broken__Doll/status/991377235826364417

TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 20:03

"Cis people really need to stop blaming trans people for their own actions. We wanted both the men’s and women’s toilets on the floor of the conference to be gender-neutral, but it was cis people who would only allow the women’s toilets to be made gender-neutral #nustrans18"

'Cis people'.

Do they mean men?

TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 20:08

"White Trans men and transmasc folks are consistently more harmful than helpful to trans liberation efforts #NUStrans18"

twitter.com/drcab1e/status/991345160159203328

He also says that transmen don't experience misogyny.

Transgender ideology is GREAT if you hate women.

Weezol · 01/05/2018 20:08

Tru thank you for that explanation*. The whole 'micro aggressions' thing has befuddled me for quite some time.

I have spent too many years on the recieving end of 'macro aggressions' which has clearly blunted my antenna for this kind of thing.

*What about the bastards that offer you a digestive when you have already spotted the alluring wrapper of a pack of Orange Club biscuits being hastily hidden?

TerfsUp · 01/05/2018 20:09

Apparently the trans-vegans are revolting

Now, now. That's not very nice. They may be unsufferable little brats but to call them revolting is going too far. Grin

insufficientlyfeminine · 01/05/2018 20:23

I genuinely thought the OP was a parody....Feel like I stepped into The Twilight Zone.

Ekphrasis · 01/05/2018 20:27

This thread is comedy gold!

I'm embarrassed to say we were only in the nus cos - errr it got you into cheaper gigs?

I could get inside a bollard and do a bollard dance.

There wasn't much activism going on in the late 90's, just arguments about oasis and blur.

Ekphrasis · 01/05/2018 20:28

"I’ve recently decided that whenever I’m asked to speak at an event I will first suggest they instead try to find a trans woman who is BME, Disabled or Bisexual. If not I’ll happily speak but the reality is I can’t adequately speak to the oppression of all trans women." LM
But you appear to think you can speak for natal women and lesbians.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/05/2018 20:30

Apparently the trans-vegans are revolting

If they're stealing cheese from the breakfast buffet they're not vegan...

Sarahconnor1 · 01/05/2018 20:34

ItsAllGoingToBeFine the cheese self id's as vegan, so it's all good.

Ofspartacus · 01/05/2018 20:36

Me too insufficentlyfeminine. It reads like that Owen Jones went to the seaside thing.

Hilarious!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/05/2018 20:36

the cheese self id's as vegan, so it's all good

Ah fuck! Can't believe I mis-dietary-requiremented the poor cheese Blush

TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 20:38

"If they're stealing cheese from the breakfast buffet they're not vegan..."

They don't identify as vegan at breakfast time though.

Also when there are bacon sandwiches going.

This is what we call non-binary.

TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 20:42

Oh they shared this charming image twitter.com/traaaaaaannnnns/status/990867667702697984

thebewilderness · 01/05/2018 20:42

Sadly not the first time I have seen transwomen talk of excluding transmen, and I get the impression that a lot of TRAs don't care much for them.

As I understand it the justification for this particular male dominance display is that once a female identifies as a man they become the oppressor.

Sarahconnor1 · 01/05/2018 20:42

TerfinUSA apparently the breakfast was good, so you might be on to something there

OlennasWimple · 01/05/2018 20:43

This has cheered me up no end after a slightly depressing day Smile

I assume that because the conference was being held in a grown up place conference hotel, the venue rules prohibit hand made signs being stuck up on hotel doors and walls, hence the "gender neutral" signs being taken down? Fairly standard hotel rules, not some cis conspiracy... Hmm

Ekphrasis · 01/05/2018 21:15

I have to post what AsAProfessionalFekko commented on the AIBU thread: I can't stop laughing

Pack a sandwich and have a wee on the train. 99% of issues solved there.

Sarahconnor1 · 01/05/2018 21:23

Looks like the NUS are distancing itself from the farce. From the telegraph article

A spokeswoman for the NUS said that since the Twitter account was not an official channel it was unable to provide comment.

Ekphrasis · 01/05/2018 21:25

What is a 'visible non binary trans woman please?' Reading twitter. Someone gave a talk on their experiences of being this....

Ekphrasis · 01/05/2018 21:26

Is there a share clicky link for that?

Teacuphiccup · 01/05/2018 21:33

Erm a man who sometimes dresses as a woman but not when it doesn’t suit him and when he is a woman is loud about it??

thebewilderness · 01/05/2018 21:35

I think that is a man who identifies as a transwoman and finds that sufficient to his needs. Wanker.

OlennasWimple · 01/05/2018 21:42

So the hotel's response was to make the disabled loos gender neutral Hmm