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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NUS Conference breaks down after the UK Border Force Arrive

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DJLippy · 01/05/2018 15:27

The following is made up from tweets from the #NUStrans18 conference which seems to have gone slightly awry after the gender neutral toilet signs were removed. They'd been stuck up the day before, converting the women's bathroom to the gender neutral bathroom, so that they'd have 'men's toilets' and 'non-men's toilets.'
Thing's started innocently enough

"I am fucking fuming
Once again food is a mess. Vegan option was a total after thought many of us can't eat it due to allergies and IBS. So what are we supposed to eat for lunch? Leaves. #NUStrans18"

Some bright spark at the hotel scheduled a simultaneous conference for the UK Border Patrol and that's when things started to heat up

"The gender neutral signs at #NUStrans18 have dissapeared entirely, I'm blaming the border force, in the meantime I have awkwardly trudged into the womens toilet that used to be gender neutral. Cue enby screaming"

"#NUStrans18 is one of the few places we feel relatively safe but now here we are on edge because UK Brdr F*rce are here."

They decided to take matters into their own hands

"Currently in occupation of the bathroom lobby #bathroomcaucus #nustrans18"

"Be careful of slippery floors in the gender neutral bathroom - we have some cis tears 💦 #BathroomCaucus #Toiletgate #NUSTrans18"

cis tears or man piss?

"#NUStrans18 white people can we PLEASE listen to POC about engaging with the border force"

"#nustrans18 so update on what happened in the bathroom caucus: We were guarding the gender neutral sign, but weren’t in the way of the doors or anything
And a cis woman came in (not even to pee), saw the sign and went off 2/??
She started saying ‘what about our toilets’ to which we informed her that the gender neutral toilets are for everyone, and if she was uncomfortable she could use the women’s upstairs
She starts shouting ‘one at a time! Respect my authority! We’re here for longer than you!’"

"whoever occupied the bathrooms, you gonna apologise to your POC delegates? #nustrans18"

"great lil update from Finn on #BathroomCaucus these people are attempting to deny our right to pee and we were simply defending that, we were just minding our own business, she’s the one that got angry and aggressive and in our faces #NUSTrans18"

"#nustrans18 I sincerely apologise if mine or any other delegates actions escalated conflict/racism towards QTPOC. The thing is, I honestly don’t know what else I could have done? I didn’t provoke her, I didn’t get in her face."

"I'd like to apologise formally for the misunderstanding and poor handling of the situation that happened in the past hour. We never set out to aggrivate anyone or intended to cause unnecessary stress. I'm extremely sorry #NUStrans18"

Then identity politic work battles begin.

"I want to sincerely apologise for the statement I delivered post-motions at #NUSTrans18. It was insensitive given the nature of the situation regarding QPOC discrimination at the event. I'm autistic and completely failed in my reading of the tone of the room, but it's no excuse."

"Okay so white people at #nustrans18, us PoC are very, very exhausted from dealing with all the racist microaggressions here. We need reparations so please send us pizza, snacks, cigarettes, chocolate, dinner money etc. My PayPal is "

I'm sorry if people find this reporting offensive because they're young and vulnerable youth but might I remind you that these students represent our future elites. In 20 years time they'll be writing our laws. Also, it's f%cking hilarious. See, this tweet they're pretty succinct

"NB: Some of the motions at #NUStrans18 could be interpreted as attacking women’s rights/protections, or even as anti-feminist “hate speech”. The response is a bit of criticism and piss-taking on twitter NOT attempts to close down and disrupt the event, or pickets by masked thugs."

The NUS Needs to have a word with itself. If these students are vulnerable and this explains their behaviour then should they really be voting on issues which affect the entire student body? Are they being used as pawns in someone else's agenda?

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TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 18:36

I'm not sure why my link to a Student Union Diversity Officer's campaign video from Youtube has been deleted, it seemed rather apposite to me.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 01/05/2018 18:38

Liking this guy

twitter.com/PersonOnTheBus/status/991362636330782721

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 01/05/2018 18:39

And

twitter.com/ReclaimQueer/status/991360687690735621

Tinlegs · 01/05/2018 18:46

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DJLippy · 01/05/2018 18:46

Screen shotted this from a post last night. Delusion

NUS Conference breaks down after the UK Border Force Arrive
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CaptainBrickbeard · 01/05/2018 18:48

Isn’t uni supposed to be where you develop critical thinking skills? This is really painfully cringeworthy. I’m in danger of doing myself some serious damage if I roll my eyes any harder.

ALittleBitOfButter · 01/05/2018 18:53

They clearly don't give a shit about wider social liberation. It's all about meeeeee and here and now to ussss!

leyat · 01/05/2018 19:06

Ada, a transwoman, tweeted that in future the conference should be only for 'transfemmes' and a separate one for trans poc. He said that white transmen/trans masculine people are damaging to the trans community. He's a white man obvs. The whole shitshow was actually hilarious, and fwiw, I think these people will have very little to do with any part of our future.

Ereshkigal · 01/05/2018 19:13

Ada memorably opined after Speakers Corner, that if every TERF had been punched there, if we had all left bruised and bleeding, then we wouldn't organise and speak any more.

R0wantrees · 01/05/2018 19:18

@Ereshikal was it Ada who supported T Woolf in court & released the defiant statement afterwards despite the guilty verdict?

Irishfeminist · 01/05/2018 19:21

Is that "Ada Wells" that total nutjob who hounded Magdalen Berns out of every LGBT student union group in Edinburgh?

That lot need to spend a few months wiping old people's arses or stacking shelves at minimum wage. Angry

Ereshkigal · 01/05/2018 19:28

Different Ada, Irish. This ones just as much of a hyper-misogynist.

It may very well have been Rowan, Ada alluded to having gone to SC and was pretty exercised about it, as I said.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/05/2018 19:31

Ada memorably opined after Speakers Corner, that if every TERF had been punched there, if we had all left bruised and bleeding, then we wouldn't organise and speak any more.

Ada clearly knows nothing about grownup women.

TerfsUp · 01/05/2018 19:32

The opening post reads like a page from "The Diary of Adrian Mole age 19 and 3/4". All it lacked was Bert deciding he was trans.

NotTerfNorCis · 01/05/2018 19:33

Ada Cable does not like women. A while back there was a (fictional) story going around about a woman feeling obliged to have sex with a man she didn't like. Anyway Mr Cable retweeted the story with a warning: fatphobia. Cos the rapist in the story was overweight.

AnitaLovesVictor · 01/05/2018 19:40

Ha, TerfsUp - or Diary of a Wimpy Kid Grin

"You're probably wondering how I came to be holding this Gender Neutral sign outside the women's toilets at #NUStrans18..."

ReluctantCamper · 01/05/2018 19:41

Oh blimey that slide DJLippy.

Talking to trans people about gender is like walking with ACTUAL JESUS. Or a philosopher or some shit. Some guy in loose clothing.

Look, it's JUST FUCKING PROFOUND OK?

Juzza12 · 01/05/2018 19:41

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ReluctantCamper · 01/05/2018 19:42

and would anyone else like to hear from the woman who objected to the toilet caucus? I think we should have her on for a webchat.

Ereshkigal · 01/05/2018 19:43

I know I'm clearly, as a dull cis, in the 5 year olds class when it comes to gender discussions but that's not my experience of them! Generally the TRAs are the ones throwing the toys Grin

Sarahconnor1 · 01/05/2018 19:44

This is gold.

Is that what 9 grand student fees buys these days Grin

Ereshkigal · 01/05/2018 19:44

I would like to buy her a fucking huge drink.

AornisHades · 01/05/2018 19:49

Well this beats shouting "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, OUT! OUT! OUT!" at the Vice Chancellor's empty office into a cocked hat.
Oh if only there were The Diary of Adrian Mole aged 19 3/4. Sounds excellent. Grin

KittyMcKitty · 01/05/2018 19:49

Slightly concerned by the request for anti depressants as someone “had left theirs at home” - yes let’s all go sharing prescription medicines, that’s always such a good idea Confused

ErrolTheDragon · 01/05/2018 19:50

I prefer to view that slide as a mother (grown woman misgendered as cis) patiently explaining something to a befuddled child.