NUS Conference breaks down after the UK Border Force Arrive

[DJLippy]

The following is made up from tweets from the #NUStrans18 conference which seems to have gone slightly awry after the gender neutral toilet signs were removed. They'd been stuck up the day before, converting the women's bathroom to the gender neutral bathroom, so that they'd have 'men's toilets' and 'non-men's toilets.'
Thing's started innocently enough

"I am fucking fuming
Once again food is a mess. Vegan option was a total after thought many of us can't eat it due to allergies and IBS. So what are we supposed to eat for lunch? Leaves. #NUStrans18"

Some bright spark at the hotel scheduled a simultaneous conference for the UK Border Patrol and that's when things started to heat up

"The gender neutral signs at #NUStrans18 have dissapeared entirely, I'm blaming the border force, in the meantime I have awkwardly trudged into the womens toilet that used to be gender neutral. Cue enby screaming"

"#NUStrans18 is one of the few places we feel relatively safe but now here we are on edge because UK Brdr F*rce are here."

They decided to take matters into their own hands

"Currently in occupation of the bathroom lobby #bathroomcaucus #nustrans18"

"Be careful of slippery floors in the gender neutral bathroom - we have some cis tears 💦 #BathroomCaucus #Toiletgate #NUSTrans18"

cis tears or man piss?

"#NUStrans18 white people can we PLEASE listen to POC about engaging with the border force"

"#nustrans18 so update on what happened in the bathroom caucus: We were guarding the gender neutral sign, but weren’t in the way of the doors or anything
And a cis woman came in (not even to pee), saw the sign and went off 2/??
She started saying ‘what about our toilets’ to which we informed her that the gender neutral toilets are for everyone, and if she was uncomfortable she could use the women’s upstairs
She starts shouting ‘one at a time! Respect my authority! We’re here for longer than you!’"

"whoever occupied the bathrooms, you gonna apologise to your POC delegates? #nustrans18"

"great lil update from Finn on #BathroomCaucus these people are attempting to deny our right to pee and we were simply defending that, we were just minding our own business, she’s the one that got angry and aggressive and in our faces #NUSTrans18"

"#nustrans18 I sincerely apologise if mine or any other delegates actions escalated conflict/racism towards QTPOC. The thing is, I honestly don’t know what else I could have done? I didn’t provoke her, I didn’t get in her face."

"I'd like to apologise formally for the misunderstanding and poor handling of the situation that happened in the past hour. We never set out to aggrivate anyone or intended to cause unnecessary stress. I'm extremely sorry #NUStrans18"

Then identity politic work battles begin.

"I want to sincerely apologise for the statement I delivered post-motions at #NUSTrans18. It was insensitive given the nature of the situation regarding QPOC discrimination at the event. I'm autistic and completely failed in my reading of the tone of the room, but it's no excuse."

"Okay so white people at #nustrans18, us PoC are very, very exhausted from dealing with all the racist microaggressions here. We need reparations so please send us pizza, snacks, cigarettes, chocolate, dinner money etc. My PayPal is "

I'm sorry if people find this reporting offensive because they're young and vulnerable youth but might I remind you that these students represent our future elites. In 20 years time they'll be writing our laws. Also, it's f%cking hilarious. See, this tweet they're pretty succinct

"NB: Some of the motions at #NUStrans18 could be interpreted as attacking women’s rights/protections, or even as anti-feminist “hate speech”. The response is a bit of criticism and piss-taking on twitter NOT attempts to close down and disrupt the event, or pickets by masked thugs."

The NUS Needs to have a word with itself. If these students are vulnerable and this explains their behaviour then should they really be voting on issues which affect the entire student body? Are they being used as pawns in someone else's agenda?

Sorry! I should have refreshed. It made it seem like an echo chamber in here.

Sadly not the first time I have seen transwomen talk of excluding transmen, and I get the impression that a lot of TRAs don't care much for them.

The TRAs, like the trans population generally, are majority male. They generally exclude F2T ('transmen') at most opportunities to do so, but reserve the right to wave them about as 'reasons' when it suits their male-dominated political agenda. Mostly, the transwomen hate the transmen - apart from the obvious misogyny (a sex-based thing! but with clothing styles reversed), it seems also rooted in sour-grapes, that TMen can 'transition' easier/faster by taking testosterone, and the majority of transwomen not passing ever, unless they are millionaires like Jenner that can pony up for all the surgeries.

Badly paraphrasing the words of Stan/Loretta, "it is every man's right ... to be a woman if he wants to".

Such drama at the conference though!

I love the comments in response to their 'activism'

I suspect that twitter thread will be deleted soon, with over 90% pointing out how sexist this is, and erasing women. Good times.

You couldn't make it up! I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.

Out of Internet, how did that transwoman in the toilet know that the woman who argued with her was cis? How did she know that this woman wasn't also trans? Or non-binary? I wonder if she asked for pronouns...

thebewilderness
It's true, I am getting very confused about who exactly is oppressed by whom and in what way(s).

It's like one of those old radio dramas. Tune in tomorrow to hear people making complete arses of themselves in as public a way as possible!

Mzy the important thing to remember is that male bodied people are oppressed by female bodied people in all sorts of different ways But mainly because the refuse to fuck them

The reasoning behind this is different but the underlying results are the same.

LaSqrrl

Cant read only more of that Lupins sounds a right twat

Seems to have got their words of wisdom from a cracker

Alas, the conference has finished, terfing.

I'm hoping Channel 5 will cover it live next year. With Noel Fielding presenting it.

Can’t wait for next years.

Maybe we could organise a coach and go along. It would be a very, very entertaining watch.😂

The graduates of this nonsense are the ones that go on to become Mumsnet interns.

I think it is very important to be aware that it was a discussion on this forum about a slide show called 'How to Deal with Terfs' presented at NUS Women's 18 by which did indeed prompt the anger of a Mumsnet Intern who breached data.

This is the thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3222263-Slide-show-on-How-to-Deal-with-TERFs?pg=5

Ada, a transwoman, tweeted that in future the conference should be only for 'transfemmes' and a separate one for trans poc. He said that white transmen/trans masculine people are damaging to the trans community. He's a white man obvs. The whole shitshow was actually hilarious, and fwiw, I think these people will have very little to do with any part of our future.

The ideology which informs TRAs is having a great deal to do with both the present and the future & some of the people involved in the conference have considerable influence.

As Helen Lewis commented in 'The madness of our gender debate, where feminists defend slapping a 60-year-old woman'

"The Wolf affair also demonstrates another alarming phenomenon: the left getting high on its own supply of self-righteousness. “Some feminists have a different conception of gender to me” gets smudged into “some feminists talk about me in ways that I find offensive” and on to “some feminists are basically Hitler, trying to eradicate people like me”.

Once you reach the last statement, then of course you can slap a woman and still think of yourself as a good person. She wants to kill you; a mere punch is self-defence. (I’m not exaggerating about the language. The Edinburgh branch of Action for Trans Health tweeted the day after the attack: “Punching TERFs is the same as punching Nazis. Fascism must be smashed with the greatest violence to ensure our collective liberation from it.”
[[https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3227129-Helen-
Lewis-New-Statesman-The-madness-of-our-gender-debate]]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3234417-Jen-Izaaksons-first-hand-account-of-T-Wolfs-trial-guilty-verdict-and-significant-background-information

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3225577-Men-making-victims-use-female-pronouns-in-court-petition

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3223856-Court-and-enforced-use-of-preferred-pronouns

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3233018-Freedom-of-Speech-A-statement-by-the-Chair-of-the-Universitys-Equality-Diversity-and-Inclusion-Group

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3228481-Cis-allies-being-asked-to-provide-protection

@truscum "(Also where do the trans who aren’t ‘femmes’ or black go?)"

transmasc = natal female amirite? So females erased again, unless they are black.

Yes and then there's only the black femmes, all along with the rest of the mascs...How long do you think they will last?

Oh, Ada Cable’s back in circulation, is she? Last I read, she was back with her olds, who were cramping her style, asking people to send her money.

terfing This is what I wonder too. How did they even know the person was a woman at all? Evidently our eyes and other senses are constantly lying to us. Was the person wearing a sign that said "woman" or perhaps "femme"?

OP I first read this as fiction, only half way through I realised it was real. So well written, love it. They really are muppets aren't they?

"ErrolTheDragon
One of the problems with student politics is that the students with full timetables don't have time for it. That tends to be scientists, engineers etc - the non-Pomo-addled sensible ones."

So true Errol , I had 30 hours per week some terms and my flatemate had 4 . She was on every group and committee going, luckily those were saner times. I take the piss out of students now but I wonder how I'd be. I did love a demo and a sit in.

NUS no platforming / censorship etc is now being challenged.

From the Times:
Sam Gyimah, the universities minister, will announce tough guidance on the issue at a meeting today, calling attempts to silence debate “chilling”.

He will accuse some student societies of “institutional hostility” to certain unfashionable but perfectly lawful views. A “murky” legal landscape, with guidance from various regulators, lets zealots censor those with whom they disagree, Mr Gyimah will say.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3238951-some-good-news

If anyone wants an idea of NUS structures and how it relates to no-platforming check out this video. It's really interesting how groups like the NUS LGBT society are being manipulated to no-platform 'controversial' speakers. This is censorship.

Report from NUStrans18
[extract]
"It is undoubtable to say that this year we saw a huge spike in Transphobia across the spectrum. Groups like Women’s Place attempted to limit Trans discussion, Trans activists had to face attacks by TERFS (It stands for “Trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist, those women who deny transsexual women acceptance in the women’s liberation movement, or even deny them their right to womanhood) when campaigning in Birmingham and national newspapers tried to compromise the foundation of Trans and nonbinary activism by labelling them as ‘snowflakes’. If anything, these examples demonstrate that we have some way to go with regard to Trans rights. However, #NUSTrans18 Conference was certainly a starting point. Demonstrating activist movements, organisers and The NUS Trans Campaign have a key part to play and are arguably more relevant than ever in 2018."

www.nusconnect.org.uk/articles/nustrans18-conference-highlights

Clearly their exercise in obedience training is not going as planned.

No-one has a "right to womanhood" unless they were born a girl, FFS

If it weren't so tragic that so many girls around the world were in fact denied their "right to womanhood", through sex selective abortion, infanticide, honour killings, and the other horrific things that happen to girls because they are girls, this would be laughable

Trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist, those women who deny transsexual women acceptance

I thought the word "transsexual" was outdated and transphobic in young queer circles?

Also in what way did A Woman's Place "attempt to limit trans discussion?". Who had protestors outside and got the venues cancelled again? That's a next level DARVO.