woman loses residency of son she was raising as daughter

[BombadierFritz]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3859618/You-caused-son-great-harm-insisting-raising-girl-Boy-seven-sent-live-father-mother-raised-daughter.html

hmmm. ok so its daily mail reporting but I am conflicted
perhaps good if child was being pushed into something he wasnt
but wtf with the boringly stereotypical insistance on the type of toys played with

Me neither RiverTam. At a time when girls report they are increasingly victims of sexual harrassment in every aspect of their lives, when their boyfriends are using hardcore porn to shape their approach to sex, when girls' appearance is fetishised, ridiculed and scrutinised to a degree never before experience by young people going through puberty, I'm not bloody surprised a lot of girls want no part of that.

And Hanora50 - I find that post to ATM pretty offensive given there are a number of parents of children who have experienced or are experiencing gender dysphoria and don't agree with your point of view.

SomeDyke its not just anecdotal, the Tavistick published figures earlier this year.

Ah, so only bigots can't see past your "gender history" ATM/ You've got a novel line in euphemism, that's for sure. On that basis, having and expressing sexual attraction is bigotry.

This is the same argument as produced by the ghastly Sophia Banks, who said homosexuality and heterosexuality were both transphobic.

We enter a brave new world in which lesbians are attracted exclusively to people who identify as women, and gay men gladly enjoy PIV sex with transmen.

Or we say, nah, this is bollocks and carry fancying whoever it is we fancy. And if your dating pool is small, tough luck. Happens to us all in time.

Hanora do you think everything should be unisex? Toilets, changing rooms, hospital wards, homeless shelters, DV shelters, prisons ...

I wonder if ATM feels it's ok for them to have preferences about which genitals they prefer? If they are a late transitioner then I'm assuming ATM fancies women only? Sounds a bit of a penis-exclusitionist if that's the case. Bigot!

I think ATM is attracted to both sexes, ageingrunner, which is true of roughly a third of transwomen..

Ah right fair enough. I stand corrected in that case

Yes, I think ATM is "pansexual".

Sounds tiring

Nah. He's widening the bandwidth of what it means to be a transwoman

*she's

MTT are very good at holding onto the bit of maleness that tells women how they should be and what constitutes a woman

I notice that too, IAmTheWhoreOfBabylon. It's funny how a trans person telling us what's what comes over exactly the same way as a regular man presuming to mansplain.

"Pansexual" sounds a lot like "I have so few takers that I'll take what's coming" in some cases. Of course I don't know ATM so can't say if that applies.

Because there's no real affinity with women. It's depressingly obvious every time. Except for A Guy Called Helen.

Also the 'but feel free to get back on topic' got my goat tbh.

As someone who worked for over twenty years with persistent sex offenders and violent criminals I am very aware that."men" commit the higher rate of sexual and violent offences but as I consider a transgender womyn to be a womyn then to me she is just that a womyn. She is no more likely to be going into a womyn's toilet with thought of sexual assault than I am. The graph shown is indicitive of heterosexual male assaults and not of any assaults committed by transgender womyn. After all if an individual has transitioned to the point of full surgery then they actually do not have a penis so are capable of rape in that sense and yes I know sexual assaults are committed in more ways than that. In fact recent facts show that it was two ftm who were charged for not stating they were transgender and not mtf...but that is a whole other story and possibly miscarriage of justice. So does anyone have solid documentary evidence that shows that transgender womyn are predatory or persistant sex offenders because if so I would like to see it because as I have already stated the evidence is around heterosexual makes.

Should say "so are not capable of rape"

BUT HOW DO WE TELL THE DIFFERENCE HANORA? HOW DO WE KNOW WHO IS A PERV IN A DRESS AND WHO IS GENUINELY TRANS?

No Hanora, sweetie, I'd like to see what evidence you have that transwomen, as a subset of biological men, are less violent than other biological men, thanks. You're the one making the extraordinary claim, the onus is on you to evidence it. I assume you do have that?

The above is a really well put together factual video about men who dressed in female clothes expressly for the purpose of getting into women's spaces and attacking them. It's pretty harrowing but perhaps worth watching for those who don't accept that concerns are genuine

LyndaNotLinda...sorry that you find my post to ATM offensive but I find many, many of the posts here offensive and actually anti trans so really I am going to respond with that in mind.

* BUT HOW DO WE TELL THE DIFFERENCE HANORA? HOW DO WE KNOW WHO IS A PERV IN A DRESS AND WHO IS GENUINELY TRANS?*

I have been following this thread throughout but delurked to echo this question. And it is an important question that the trans community constantly belittle or ignore.

Can you please tell me how to tell fake trans from real trans when I'm in a confined space Hanora? Tia

Hanora

1. Studies have shown that MtT commit crime at the same rate as males, and that FtT commit crime at a higher rate than females. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 This means that MtT pose exactly the same risk to women as males do. As a population group males (including MtT) pose a risk to females. This is why we have sex segregated spaces

1. Women often feel intimidated when men invade their spaces, whether or not that specific male is a threat. This is another reason we have sex segregated spaces. Generally speaking MtT do not pass, so will cause the same alarm.