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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Really? Is it just me who doesn't get the Daniel Craig drag thing?

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Adair · 08/03/2011 18:57

James Bond. Hardly most enlightened character.

Dressing up as 'a woman' which as we all know involves long hair, lipstick, high heels and a dress Hmm.

So an ad for International Womens Day that doesn't actually feature any women (well, the voiceover - but no-one is mentioning that).

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SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 15:15

So feminists aren't allowed to talk about rape because it's a red herring (whatever that means)

And we aren't allowed to talk about the DC video for international women's day because it is trivial (have you listened to the voiceover?)

What are we allowed to talk about then? (Answer = nothing we are to shut up and get back to the kitchen Grin)

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 10/03/2011 15:15

judging by his/her posts, I think StreetWiseHotMum has joined Mumsnet specially to wind people up.

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 15:16

streetwise on the other thread you talk about "devaluing" rape. Who on earth "values" rape in the first place?

What are your views on rape then?

StreetWiseHotMum · 10/03/2011 15:17

SQ, you didn't talk about rape, you asked me if I thought it was acceptable blah blah blah with the obvious inference etc.

Why are you so keen to trivialise rape like that ?

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 15:20

I don't think it was me who asked you if the conviction rate was acceptable.

This is what I said:

"However I open the newspapers and read about girls schools being burnt in Pakistan, about girls and women being sold into the sex trade around the world, about rape being used as a weapon of war, about women being denied basic rights in some countries, and closer to home, about women being raped and abused and finding that there is no chance of justice, and so on and so on and so on and it makes me ANGRY and I want to talk about it to see what can be done. I don't understand what bitterness has to do with any of that."

What is your response? Why do you think that feminism is not needed when this is the situation that we have in the world? What does any of that have to do with bitterness?

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 15:21

What are your views on rape? What do you think needs to be done to improve the situation worldwide?

LeninGrad · 10/03/2011 15:22

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StreetWiseHotMum · 10/03/2011 15:27

My apologies SQ, it was FlamingoBingo that asked me if it was acceptable yada yada yada..

Worldwide is totally different to the UK and other modern Western states.

I don't have the time now (kids/school), but a good start would be to look at what has been done to try and improve things and why in general it hasn't worked.

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 15:29

Oooh that's a good idea.

I suspect that some people on here can recommend some good starting points for you Grin

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 10/03/2011 15:30

What like become a feminist for example?

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 15:35
pgpg · 10/03/2011 15:48

Well, I thought the video was bollocks. Voiceover was ok. Visuals were: a famous bloke who has played James Bond in a suit and then a frock. Confused

StewieGriffinsMom · 10/03/2011 18:07

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FlamingoBingo · 10/03/2011 19:27

Looking forward to reading StreetWise's ideas to change the world to make it a better place for half the population for whom, at the moment, it's really quite a bit shit!

I hope he/she has all the answers and then we can stop moaning/trivialising/devaluing DC/rape/housework and live happily ever after.

StreetWiseHotMum · 10/03/2011 19:36

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StewieGriffinsMom · 10/03/2011 19:41

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Prolesworth · 10/03/2011 19:42

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SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 19:42

I just actually lolled Grin

You are awful, streetwise. But I like you Grin

What do you say gang, can we keep him?

FlamingoBingo · 10/03/2011 19:44

Sorry, Lenin - should have taken your advice long ago.

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 20:08

xposts with stewie BTW

Just to confirm (as if it needs saying) that I was joking Grin

StewieGriffinsMom · 10/03/2011 20:10

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FlamingoBingo · 10/03/2011 20:11

I knew you were joking, SQ! Grin

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 20:30
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This all reminds me of that monty python song from the meaning of life

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FlamingoBingo · 10/03/2011 20:39

That's fab!

Wish I was a man! Sad

SardineQueen · 10/03/2011 20:44
Grin

What is so great about having a penis anyway? Apart from being able to pee standing up?

Going to ask DH.