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Do you believe Charles Spencer about Charles Windsor's reported remark?

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OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 22:10

Do you believe Charles Spencer that Charles Windsor said to him during a phone call "we'll forget her soon enough."

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YellowScarfRupert · Today 14:04

I believe King C was up against it at such an awful time, the mother of his children died a horrific death. He needed to care for W and H, not spend time chatting shit with Diana’s brother, They are not a normal family they have to follow protocols. While Spencer is busy slagging him off, he’s the one that brought Diana back.

Spencer also stated the only thing on King Cs mind was now he was free to be with Camilla. FFS Spencer has no idea what King C was thinking them or now. It’s speculative.

Flufffluff11 · Today 14:07

A lot of English culture seems cold and cruel to me.

Much more than other cultures are.

I wonder how English culture evolved to be so cold and uncaring. I think that English people are trained from a young age to be reserved, selfish, unemotional and uncaring

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 14:07

Why did Spencer not fly up immediately to Paris ?

MarchionessVonSausage · Today 14:10

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 14:07

Why did Spencer not fly up immediately to Paris ?

That's a good point. CW went, as did her sisters. Paul Burrell went too!

Why not Earl Spencer?

Flufffluff11 · Today 14:12

MarchionessVonSausage · Today 14:10

That's a good point. CW went, as did her sisters. Paul Burrell went too!

Why not Earl Spencer?

Maybe he wasn't invited? Did they fly on a Royal plane?

Arjan · Today 14:14

Because he was in South Africa and would not have made it to Paris before her body was brought back to the UK later on the day she died.

MarchionessVonSausage · Today 14:15

Arjan · Today 14:14

Because he was in South Africa and would not have made it to Paris before her body was brought back to the UK later on the day she died.

Ah, that makes sense, thanks

Flufffluff11 · Today 14:16

They're already making loads of AI videos on Instagram of KC punching ES.

myrtleWilson · Today 14:19

Flufffluff11 · Today 13:16

I've read several accounts that said that "they were not getting on fine' when she was killed.

Which accounts?

Arjan · Today 14:27

I do wonder why the coffin was not reopened so Diana’s mother and brother could view the body, also why did her mother not go to Paris with her other two daughters.

Treaclewell · Today 14:29

When this sort of discussion comes up I am reminded of the things revealed in a RF lineage poster I saw - may have somewhere possibly. According to Geoffrey of Monmouth, they go back to a guy called Brutua who came to Britain untold ages back - they are linked to the old lines before the Germans. And Brutus was the son of Aeneas, who was the son of Anchises and his mistress Aphrodite. Yes, that Aphrodite, The Anglo-Saxon Cerdingas line, marginally more historical, and married back in to the Normans from Scotland, traced their descent from one Woden, aka Odin. and not like the MCU version, a trickster and seducer. So when that sort of discussion comes up, I think, what do you expect from those two ancestors?

Cornishclio · Today 14:30

No I don't believe it as it would have come out before now. Spencer wants to sell his book.

Janiie · Today 14:31

Flufffluff11 · Today 14:07

A lot of English culture seems cold and cruel to me.

Much more than other cultures are.

I wonder how English culture evolved to be so cold and uncaring. I think that English people are trained from a young age to be reserved, selfish, unemotional and uncaring

It's not English culture.

Spencer is a bitter man consumed by rage and shame.

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 14:32

Arjan · Today 14:14

Because he was in South Africa and would not have made it to Paris before her body was brought back to the UK later on the day she died.

It's not a long flight , I'm surprised he didn't set off immediately .

Cornishclio · Today 14:32

Does anyone really believe that Charles would have confided in Earl Spencer what he was thinking or feeling? They weren't friends.

Janiie · Today 14:33

Cornishclio · Today 14:32

Does anyone really believe that Charles would have confided in Earl Spencer what he was thinking or feeling? They weren't friends.

Exactly. The man's a fantasist.

jeffgoldblum · Today 14:36

Arjan · Today 14:27

I do wonder why the coffin was not reopened so Diana’s mother and brother could view the body, also why did her mother not go to Paris with her other two daughters.

possibly because…..and I’m trying to word this delicately….after an accident of that nature….the moving around and bustle of the body …..the in-depth autopsy ( because of the high profile) ….the condition and smell is not pleasant, I doubt it would have been withheld without good reason.

Arjan · Today 14:37

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 14:32

It's not a long flight , I'm surprised he didn't set off immediately .

It’s 11+ hours from Cape Town to London, I guess he didn’t have access to a private plane so would have had to fly commercial and then would be dependent on airline schedules.

Helenbelena · Today 14:42

Janiie · Today 13:35

'Harry actually looks a lot like the young Prince Philip'

Nooo Prince Philip was a good looking bloke in his younger years!

Agree - Prince Philip was really attractive as a young man!

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 14:56

jeffgoldblum · Today 14:36

possibly because…..and I’m trying to word this delicately….after an accident of that nature….the moving around and bustle of the body …..the in-depth autopsy ( because of the high profile) ….the condition and smell is not pleasant, I doubt it would have been withheld without good reason.

Diana's body had been embalmed however as that was a point that was raised as controversial by Fayed.

Flufffluff11 · Today 14:57

Yes that was another controversial thing.

Diana's body was embalmed without receiving permission from her family. This goes against French Law on embalming

jeffgoldblum · Today 15:09

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 14:56

Diana's body had been embalmed however as that was a point that was raised as controversial by Fayed.

Embalmed? , oh dear ! , hopefully it was done correctly and respectfully, it can alter the appearance of the deceased dramatically.

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 15:13

It has to be done for international repatriation but there was some furore about it. Official permission had not been given by the family.

Pipedreams607 · Today 15:15

Janiie · Today 14:03

'And frankly if a thirty-two year old man had married my nineteen year old sister when already deeply involved with another woman, which started off a series of events which ended in her death aged thirty-six, I would be upset about it twenty-nine years later too'

He should blame his own family who actively encouraged and facilitated the whole circus. Why didn't someone protect her, one of these oh so very noble Spencers going back to <insert some irrelevant king's name> times.

Why did the Spencers all let her down so badly?

Good point. Her father Johnnie, a man of a completely different generation, who had served as an equerry to the late Queen Elizabeth, and was completely loyal and devoted to the Crown. clearly felt that Diana would be letting down the Spencer name and bringing shame on the RF, or vice versa, when she asked to be able to be released from the engagement. It was the wrong decision.

What is so sad, according to Spencer, is that Diana’s doubts about the match set in very early on. Prince Charles was abroad and she was looking forward to his return on an evening when Andrew was celebrating his birthday with a party at Windsor Castle. Apparently Prince Charles came home and completely ignored his fiancée and left a humiliated Diana to dance with her brother. It was after that that Diana started realising what she had got herself in to and went to see her father.