Do you believe Charles Spencer about Charles Windsor's reported remark?

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Do you believe Charles Spencer that Charles Windsor said to him during a phone call "we'll forget her soon enough."

I have provided the source. In a thread where there are a lot of wild claims with no evidence at all, at least I have provided a link.
Believe or disbelieve as you wish.

I think it's very easy to misunderstand a telephone conversation particularly when you are in shock and grief. And remember they were not on friendly terms at the time and I'm sure Charles Spencer blamed Charles for his sister's death so I imagine the conversation was acrimonious and regrettable things may have been said on both sides. I can imagine Charles saying something like it will get better with time, interpreted as we will forget her. I don't suppose we will ever know what was actually said.

King Charles is odious. I don't like jealous men who hate their wife's successes. He was so clearly jealous of Diana

Yes I wouldn't rule it. It's the way he is. He's very cold and plays to the camera.

I was open minded about the “we will soon forget her” remark but now we’ve heard Spencer has written that KC “sounded like a lottery winner” and I thought, no you are lying and deranged.

KC had just told his sons their mother was dead, I really don’t believe he would be sounding like a lottery winner.

Also Spencer has been married 4 times and was not at the wedding of one of his daughters. Diana was not talking to him when she died. I think he probably feels huge guilt about the way he treated her (and his ex wives and children) and has decided he needs to put the spotlight on others.

If their partner is more popular, more successful than them, they get jealous of her.

David Dimbleby commented in an interview on the BBC R4 Today programme that "the Palace" resented Diana's popularity both while she was alive and at her death. And he's just made a very well-connected & evidenced documentary about the Windsors for the BBC. It's on iPLayer

I kind of believe both tbh - I think it's credible KC said something along those lines but probably in the context of the public hysteria and/or the manner in which she died. Not that she'd be forgotten. I also think the 'giddiness' wasn't joy but more the adrenaline coursing through his system after having to tell his two young sons about their mother/ deal with the public just not letting him think straight, sound different iyswim.

Do I believe he was devastated at Diana's death? Probably not. Devastated for his sons maybe. Was their private relief in the palace? I can believe that. It was a shocking death so I can see many emotions running through people. Not always rational.

I think he's capable of being that cruel. I've also seen people be cruel in real life right after someone died. Cruel people usually pick on people at their weakest moment as it is fun for them

Yeah, this is my take on it too. I think anger and grief in the moment meant a comment was fired at ES by KC - not necessarily about his feelings about Diana (which were complicated), more about the situation. I was 14 when she died and I remember being really astonished at the craziness of the grief displayed by people who didn't know her. It was completely over the top. I'm from Scotland though - I didn't see as much of it up here tbh; I read some schools shut in England?! Our school didn't shut and there were no street marches or anything like in England. People just lost their minds. I imagine that factored into whatever was said between the two Charles's - I'd have found a bunch of people claiming Diana as THEIR person to grieve for who'd never met her over her actual ex husband and sons as quite upsetting tbh if I'd been her family. They'd feel that it's not your grief? That's probably what the feeling was behind whatever was said.

@CherryKerry

No the quote was

‘rest assured we will forget her soon enough ‘

WE

He included himself .
Shocking

Yes, the comment about “blood family” makes me wonder if he knew that there was a possibility that one of those boys was not royal blood.

Oooooh, two thirds of almost 1700 people so far (in the poll) don't believe Charles Spencer! Go figure!

I have similar thoughts to yours. I think his comments on "lottery winner and giddy with excitement" is not believable. These were 2 men who didn't get on, they only ever spoke twice to discuss the funeral so KC3 would be highly unlikely to portray this to Spencer.

KC3 was very aware of public sadness so it just not credible that he would give this impression to a Diana's family. KC3 may be many things but I doubt he's that's stupid.

The book has been published and I’d imagine was carefully checked beforehand.

Charles has not denied it. He just tried to smear Spencer - very damning and that act alone has persuaded people that Spencer is telling the truth .

I imagine there is a lot more to come out

They all do

They all walk around with their mouths open - god knows why - they must think it makes them look ‘engaged’ or lively.

Camilla doesn’t and looks better in photos as a result .

'Also Spencer has been married 4 times and was not at the wedding of one of his daughters. Diana was not talking to him when she died. I think he probably feels huge guilt about the way he treated her (and his ex wives and children) and has decided he needs to put the spotlight on others'

Yep guilt, shame and projection. We see you Charlie you preposterous, destructive twerp.

I forgot to vote

I think we all know that the RF board on Mumsnet is not the most unbiased of places from which to glean opinions about the King!

Yes it is a board that is predominantly pro Royal family

That is a good point, I remember reading that and wondering exactly what he meant.

That would be horrendous if he meant to imply that and throw it in Charles face, knowing the rumours at the time about Harry’s parentage. (Totally debunked now that middle aged Harry is the image of his father and grandfather)

I think there probably is some element of truth to what Spencer says , the Royal family will do anything to protect themselves at all times including harming their own family members to protect senior royals .

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Of course KC said it. He's a cold cruel man, who by many accounts was extremely jealous of Diana. He couldn't bare to be outshined by her

They were getting on fine when she was killed. She was the mother of his kids, he would not have been elated

God, look at all the lurid crap about Spencer all over the papers today his cheating and booze problems etc. He really is in no position to judge anyone.

I think he'll regret this, he's getting pulled to pieces. I haven't seen anyone <except the op and a few supporters> say oh yes what a nice man I absolutely believe him

Before Diana’s death the whole Royal family wanted to get her out of the picture. So yes, they were relieved when she was gone in that sense.

i fully believe Earl Spencer.