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Earl Spencer's book on Diana is stolen

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JustHereForTheShitsAndGiggles · Yesterday 01:04

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Copies of Earl Spencer's sensational book about Princess Diana have been stolen from a lorry – just before its exclusive serialisation in the Daily Mail.
The memoir – Swan Song: Diana, My Sister – includes revelations about Diana's deeply unhappy marriage with the then Prince of Wales.
It also describes the crisis that engulfed the Royal Family after her death in a car crash almost 30 years ago.
Last night a publishing insider said: 'Earl Spencer has kept his silence for nearly 30 years and what he has to say about the King's reaction when Diana died is utterly devastating.'
But, in an astonishing development, the Mail can reveal that a truck packed with thousands of copies of the book was broken into after it was parked overnight in a lay-by in the Netherlands earlier this week.
Just four copies, which had been wrapped in black plastic to hide their contents, were stolen in what publishing sources believe could have been an audacious plot to steal the highly anticipated book of the year before it hits the shelves.

Earl Spencer's bombshell new book is stolen: Several copies of Earl's explosive book about his sister Diana - and how King reacted to her death - are taken in raid on a Dutch lorry | Daily Mail Online

Copies of Earl Spencer's book about sister Diana are taken in raid

The memoir - Swan Song: Diana, My Sister - includes revelations about Diana's deeply unhappy marriage with the then Prince of Wales.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16134057/Earl-Spencers-bombshell-new-book-stolen-copies-Earls-explosive-book-sister-Diana-King-reacted-death-taken-raid-Dutch-lorry.html

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OctopusFriend · Yesterday 22:58

Eastie77Returns · Yesterday 22:31

My memories of the whole episode are quite hazy but I do recall Harry looking completely bewildered. I think he said that for years he thought she might not really be dead. He’s never come to terms with it.

Well, that's not healthy. He's 42 and a father of two children; he needs to move forward and deal with it. I'm not saying it's easy, or he should pull himself together, but he can afford top level, regular counselling. No waiting list, no worries about time off work etc I know that William has spoken of how therapy has helped him come to terms with issues. It's better than the alternative.

Musketpipeanddrum · Yesterday 22:59

Futurehappiness · Yesterday 20:01

I actually thought this statement was repulsive. Sneering, sanctimonious faux-compassion. Basically claiming that ES was mad or lying. If they don't comment on books 'as a matter of principle' why do so now?

I can't say categorically whether or not ES's account was true. What I can say that I can remember every detail of certain instances/ things being said and done during distressing times, as clearly as if they happened yesterday. Such things are never forgotten. If Charles thinks this account is false I would have had more respect if his spokesperson had just said that.

I couldn’t agree more, Agree with every word you say.

“Sneering, sanctimonious and faux compassion” is absolutely right and has struck the wrong chord here.

If he thought Charles Spencer was wrong; just say so. No need to be so condescending.

Musketpipeanddrum · Yesterday 23:15

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 22:06

I can see both sides of this one.

Diana had a distant relationship with her mother following her parents' divorce - after her mother's second marriage she moved 500 miles away, and Diana saw her rarely in the holidays (the divorce and custody case was nasty).

From what I can see they remained fairly distant in Diana's adulthood, and at the time of her death were estranged, with Frances' letters being returned.

I can see why some sort of contact (letter of condolence, perhaps) might be expected.
I can also see why someone might not contact the estranged parent of their son's ex-wife.
Presumably Charles was the point of contact around the time of the funeral?

Did Frances contact the Queen?

^Did Frances contact the Queen?*

Why should she? She hadn’t lost her daughter. The protocol would be that it was definitely up to QE2 to write a letter of condolence to Frances, not the other way around.

The fact she didn’t is one of the coldest things I have ever heard tbh. Even if there was emnity between them, any decent person would put that to one side when someone has lost a daughter, at the age of thirty six and and in such shocking circumstances.

TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 23:29

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:10

Probably but the Mail will gut the juiciest bits coming soon. Which will shake the monarchy apparently.

Doubt it. The monarchy’s glued to the seabed with primordial superglue.

Musketpipeanddrum · Yesterday 23:30

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:04

Well Charles is selling something - his privilege - with the difference is that we are paying for it. Spencer has to sing for his supper now and let the plebs into his stately pile to pay the bills as does Harry now - hence the song and books. We all have to eat.

Charles Spencer has recently sold off part of his estate that he couldn’t farm for £60 million, so I doubt that money was the only reason for publishing.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:40

foxylady2 · Yesterday 20:43

His Nazi SS adjacent sister lest we forget.

And? , was Phillip a Nazi? , what is the relevance, apart from revealing your actual position towards the rf!

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:43

Futurehappiness · Yesterday 20:47

Prince Harry's account in Spare seems to agree with Spencer's in many respects. But I know how widely hated H is on here so many royalist posters will dismiss his account as they do his uncle's, and insist that they are both lying and the senior royals alone are paragons of virtue.

'In Spare, Harry told readers that his memories of his childhood have been affected by the trauma he experienced after his mother's death.
The prince recounted a number of events around this time, one of which was the numerous discussions surrounding Diana's funeral. He recalled that the princess's brother, his uncle Charles Spencer, strongly objected to any suggestion that his nephews should walk behind the coffin.

"There was some discussion about the next day's funeral," Harry wrote. "Per the latest plan, the coffin would be pulled through the streets on a horse-drawn carriage by the King's Troop while Willy and I followed on foot. It seemed a lot to ask of two young boys. Several adults were aghast. Mummy's brother, Uncle Charles, raised hell. 'You can't make these boys walk behind their mother's coffin! It's barbaric.'"

Harry continued: "An alternative plan was put forward. Willy would walk alone. He was fifteen, after all. Leave the younger one out of it. Spare the Spare. This alternative plan was sent up the chain. Back came the answer. It must be both princes. To garner sympathy, presumably."'

Anyone who quotes spare as a source of information when it’s literally littered with false information and downright lies that are easily disproven by a casual observer, really can’t be taken seriously.

Trainbleu · Yesterday 23:44

Seems to be quite the public backlash against Charles Spencer, he doesn’t seem to be getting a lot of support for this particular revelation.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:48

jobnotsure · Yesterday 21:54

Hopefully all this will make people realise how dysfunctional this family is and how we don’t need a Royal Family. I sometimes think the Royals could do anything and some people will defend them to the death… just look at Andrew…

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bluegreygreen · Today 00:19

Musketpipeanddrum · Yesterday 23:15

^Did Frances contact the Queen?*

Why should she? She hadn’t lost her daughter. The protocol would be that it was definitely up to QE2 to write a letter of condolence to Frances, not the other way around.

The fact she didn’t is one of the coldest things I have ever heard tbh. Even if there was emnity between them, any decent person would put that to one side when someone has lost a daughter, at the age of thirty six and and in such shocking circumstances.

That's fair enough.

My thought process had wandered off down the line of the two opposite side grandparents, slightly forgetting about the mother/daughter relationship when I wrote that question.

bluegreygreen · Today 00:35

I suspect there's going to be a lot of history checking over this book:

Earl Spencer's book on Diana is stolen
jeffgoldblum · Today 00:38

bluegreygreen · Today 00:35

I suspect there's going to be a lot of history checking over this book:

Well ! I’m not surprised, however I doubt people who have already decided who is the villain will care about facts at this point.

Chockachip · Today 01:24

Why would the man whose sister died mostly due to press intrusion (and not wearing a seatbelt etc of course) give his new book, about her, to the press to serialise?

altesse · Today 01:44

Who knows?

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BemusedAmerican · Today 02:20

Musketpipeanddrum · Yesterday 23:30

Charles Spencer has recently sold off part of his estate that he couldn’t farm for £60 million, so I doubt that money was the only reason for publishing.

Really? His nephew allegedly has burnt through that amount in 5 years ( KC funded year one). Maybe it runs in the family.

TheOvertGardener · Today 02:21

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:10

Probably but the Mail will gut the juiciest bits coming soon. Which will shake the monarchy apparently.

Juiciest?

mathanxiety · Today 02:22

MissMoneyFairy · Yesterday 11:51

Amazing that the alleged thief knew exactly what was in the lorry, where it was parked, what was hidden in black plastic.

I'd say the thieves were looking for other stuff altogether. The literacy level of people who break into parked trucks for a living shouldn't be overestimated.

BemusedAmerican · Today 02:38

I have used my little grey cells, and deduced the fate of those 4 missing books which have yet to appear.

The truck driver was at a truck stop. For whatever reason, he was forced to relieve himself in the bushes but had no toilet paper. Rather than risk accidentally pulling up some poison ivy leaves, he remembered he had some books in the back, and figured no one would miss 4 of them. Afterwards, he wrapped the soiled books up in the black plastic, and disposed of the bundle in the truck stop dumpster.

Since he was a Gen Z truck driver, he had never heard of Diana. So the book made no great impression on him.

Edited for grammar.

Musketpipeanddrum · Today 05:27

Why would the man whose sister died mostly due to press intrusion (and not wearing a seatbelt etc of course) give his new book, about her, to the press to serialise?

Well possibly because it being the thirtieth anniversary of Diana’s death next year, there are going to be lots of books written about her by people who didn’t really know her, and he as her brother, wanted to produce the definitive record and make things known that he couldn’t back then?

And because if you are an author and have a major book to sell, your publisher or literary agent will have fixed up a deal on your behalf so that parts of it get serialised? That is standard marketing for bestsellers nowadays along with all of the press interviews and guest appearances where he will be talking about the book. Spencer probably would have had very little to do with the minutiae of the deal himself.

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · Today 06:13

As someone who was an adult at the time of Diana's death, I witnessed the extraordinarily hysterical public response in the days following the news with amazement. People who had never met Diana were weeping copiously at the gates of Kensington Palace for days (multitudes of them). It was really a scene of bizarre mass hysteria. I also remember these same people demanding the royal standard (which was not flying at Buckingham Palace since the Queen was not in residence) be hoisted and flown at half and demanding the Queen (who was looking after her bereaved grandsons in peaceful, private Balmoral) return to London immediately. Tony Blair jumped on the band wagon and went to Balmoral to persuade the Queen to return quickly to London despite her wish to continue caring for her grandsons. Charles flew to Paris to collect the body and I recall footage of him when he landed back with the RAF flight looking genuinely very sad. Lastly, I remember it widely reported (I think just a day or so before the funeral) that the boys had been asked by Prince Phillip if they would like to walk with him behind the coffin (making clear it was entirely optional) and they both decided to do so.

Fondmemories · Today 06:36

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · Today 06:13

As someone who was an adult at the time of Diana's death, I witnessed the extraordinarily hysterical public response in the days following the news with amazement. People who had never met Diana were weeping copiously at the gates of Kensington Palace for days (multitudes of them). It was really a scene of bizarre mass hysteria. I also remember these same people demanding the royal standard (which was not flying at Buckingham Palace since the Queen was not in residence) be hoisted and flown at half and demanding the Queen (who was looking after her bereaved grandsons in peaceful, private Balmoral) return to London immediately. Tony Blair jumped on the band wagon and went to Balmoral to persuade the Queen to return quickly to London despite her wish to continue caring for her grandsons. Charles flew to Paris to collect the body and I recall footage of him when he landed back with the RAF flight looking genuinely very sad. Lastly, I remember it widely reported (I think just a day or so before the funeral) that the boys had been asked by Prince Phillip if they would like to walk with him behind the coffin (making clear it was entirely optional) and they both decided to do so.

They were grieving CHILDREN. That decision should have been made for them. There is no way they should have been put through that.

Guest385 · Today 06:48

AprilMizzel · Yesterday 20:52

I just think it's interesting that Philip is blamed as is Blairs government - but Spensor and Campbell both point finger at Charles camp.

I mean honestly god know at this point who said what to who and how the decision finalised - but in my 20s at time I remember Queen and Prince Philip were trying to keep them at Balmoral out of way but press and public opinion went completely mad - and then Blare stepped in ever the populists and put pressure on RF to do something to appease public. Though Campbell when I saw him speak about it was clear with kids of their own and with eye to public they were surprised at suggestion of walking behind coffin and not sure about it at all.

Similar age myself and this is broadly how I remember it too. The public wanted the late Queen in London but I think she was right to put H&W first. Blair did not handle Diana’s death well at all in my opinion.
A few years ago I saw an old documentary about those days after Diana’s death, Charles looked utterly shell shocked and his staff at the time who were telling the story were completely devastated. The thing that hit me was that Charles found himself as a single parent overnight at a time when C and D were getting on much better, especially around their parenting roles. No matter how bad a marriage, in my opinion, very few parents would want to parent alone. Something that seems to get lost in all the noise around Diana death.
No idea whose version of events is true but grief does strange things to people and when so sudden, even stranger.

altesse · Today 06:54

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · Today 06:13

As someone who was an adult at the time of Diana's death, I witnessed the extraordinarily hysterical public response in the days following the news with amazement. People who had never met Diana were weeping copiously at the gates of Kensington Palace for days (multitudes of them). It was really a scene of bizarre mass hysteria. I also remember these same people demanding the royal standard (which was not flying at Buckingham Palace since the Queen was not in residence) be hoisted and flown at half and demanding the Queen (who was looking after her bereaved grandsons in peaceful, private Balmoral) return to London immediately. Tony Blair jumped on the band wagon and went to Balmoral to persuade the Queen to return quickly to London despite her wish to continue caring for her grandsons. Charles flew to Paris to collect the body and I recall footage of him when he landed back with the RAF flight looking genuinely very sad. Lastly, I remember it widely reported (I think just a day or so before the funeral) that the boys had been asked by Prince Phillip if they would like to walk with him behind the coffin (making clear it was entirely optional) and they both decided to do so.

This.

MrsLeonFarrell · Today 06:56

It is interesting to watch the narrative change over the years around Diana.

At the time, I remember how hostile the press has started to become before he death and how they immediately turned on the royal family, demanding public displays of private grief, whilst Diana became a saint in death.

William and Harry did an interview in, I think 2017, where they both said they were glad they had walked behind the coffin, difficult though it was, and how supportive Prince Philip had been. They were grateful to have been given a choice. Harry has changed his mind on this, as is his right. I think that it shows how grief isn't a static thing and how our perspective can change over the years.

I don't know why Charles S has waited so long to write this book, 30 years later the narrative around Diana is far more complex and nuanced than Saint Diana, Dreadful Charles. He may have missed the boat if he wanted to portray his sister as the perfect victim. Certainly his ongoing hostility calls into question the reliability of his memories, particularly as grief distorts everything around us anyway.

I hope that the book is a balanced measured account of Diana's life and that the the clickbait bits in the tabloids do not reflect the whole. Diana deserves that.

After 30 years though what I believe she most deserves is to be left in peace to be privately mourned by those who actually knew and loved her. Instead I suspect we are in for a deluge of dubious revelations and reflections to cash in, once again, on her death.

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