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Earl Spencer's book on Diana is stolen

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JustHereForTheShitsAndGiggles · Yesterday 01:04

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Copies of Earl Spencer's sensational book about Princess Diana have been stolen from a lorry – just before its exclusive serialisation in the Daily Mail.
The memoir – Swan Song: Diana, My Sister – includes revelations about Diana's deeply unhappy marriage with the then Prince of Wales.
It also describes the crisis that engulfed the Royal Family after her death in a car crash almost 30 years ago.
Last night a publishing insider said: 'Earl Spencer has kept his silence for nearly 30 years and what he has to say about the King's reaction when Diana died is utterly devastating.'
But, in an astonishing development, the Mail can reveal that a truck packed with thousands of copies of the book was broken into after it was parked overnight in a lay-by in the Netherlands earlier this week.
Just four copies, which had been wrapped in black plastic to hide their contents, were stolen in what publishing sources believe could have been an audacious plot to steal the highly anticipated book of the year before it hits the shelves.

Earl Spencer's bombshell new book is stolen: Several copies of Earl's explosive book about his sister Diana - and how King reacted to her death - are taken in raid on a Dutch lorry | Daily Mail Online

Copies of Earl Spencer's book about sister Diana are taken in raid

The memoir - Swan Song: Diana, My Sister - includes revelations about Diana's deeply unhappy marriage with the then Prince of Wales.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16134057/Earl-Spencers-bombshell-new-book-stolen-copies-Earls-explosive-book-sister-Diana-King-reacted-death-taken-raid-Dutch-lorry.html

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upinaballoon · Yesterday 22:02

Trees6 · Yesterday 21:07

It’s terrible in retrospect, the walk. Those poor kids.

William wasn't a kid. At what point do you let your children follow a coffin? Not until they're 22?

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:04

altesse · Yesterday 21:21

As per H’s recollection on having the boys walk behind the coffin ‘to garner sympathy presumably’?

Presumably doing a bit of hard graft there.

There was enough sympathy - I doubt anyone needed to garner anything in that respect. Everyone would have been already so sad for their loss.

As for CS’s book?

If he wanted a bit of the drama then he has it. At the expense of his nephews. What a peach.

And as has been mentioned, feeling was high at the time and this is only one side of the story. One recollection if you like.

Recollections - as have been shown already - may vary.

Still. Whatever sells.

Well Charles is selling something - his privilege - with the difference is that we are paying for it. Spencer has to sing for his supper now and let the plebs into his stately pile to pay the bills as does Harry now - hence the song and books. We all have to eat.

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 22:06

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 20:44

Diana’s mother- Frances Shand Kydd - told friends that she heard nothing from QE2 after Diana died. Not a word. She was William and Harry’s other grandmother and she was completely effaced by the RF.

I can see both sides of this one.

Diana had a distant relationship with her mother following her parents' divorce - after her mother's second marriage she moved 500 miles away, and Diana saw her rarely in the holidays (the divorce and custody case was nasty).

From what I can see they remained fairly distant in Diana's adulthood, and at the time of her death were estranged, with Frances' letters being returned.

I can see why some sort of contact (letter of condolence, perhaps) might be expected.
I can also see why someone might not contact the estranged parent of their son's ex-wife.
Presumably Charles was the point of contact around the time of the funeral?

Did Frances contact the Queen?

Uricon2 · Yesterday 22:08

upinaballoon · Yesterday 22:02

William wasn't a kid. At what point do you let your children follow a coffin? Not until they're 22?

He was 15.

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 22:08

@upinaballoon
William was 15. His mother had died in the most tragic circumstances. They walked for 2 miles behind her coffin. He should have been protected.

canklesmctacotits · Yesterday 22:09

I have never seen the big deal about William and Harry walking behind the coffin. If it had been our mum, my siblings and I would have fought to ensure we did exactly that. The more Harry complains about it, and the older he gets while complaining about it, the more pathetic I find him.

This is all just posh Eastenders. They’re all liars and cheats.

AlonsoMosley · Yesterday 22:10

Eastie77Returns · Yesterday 21:28

Wasn’t there a suggestion/fears the public might boo Charles if the princes were not walking behind the coffin? They should have just had members of Spencer family do the walk (if that had to happen). It was bizarre to see her ex husband and the FIL who didn’t like her acting as mourners.

It was bizarre to see her ex husband and the FIL who didn’t like her acting as mourners.

Well observed! In hindsight that was utterly strange.

Although, I suppose they walked to support the children rather that as chief mourners? In either case, a poor decision.

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:10

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 21:53

@11add1
I would say the book will sell in its millions.

Probably but the Mail will gut the juiciest bits coming soon. Which will shake the monarchy apparently.

Earl Spencer's book on Diana is stolen
Lemonpossett · Yesterday 22:11

canklesmctacotits · Yesterday 22:09

I have never seen the big deal about William and Harry walking behind the coffin. If it had been our mum, my siblings and I would have fought to ensure we did exactly that. The more Harry complains about it, and the older he gets while complaining about it, the more pathetic I find him.

This is all just posh Eastenders. They’re all liars and cheats.

But you wouldn’t have had hundreds of thousands of wailing spectators lining the streets to watch you …. Hardly a realistic comparison

AlonsoMosley · Yesterday 22:16

upinaballoon · Yesterday 22:02

William wasn't a kid. At what point do you let your children follow a coffin? Not until they're 22?

He was only 15.

At 15, he would have understood entirely what was going on. Harry being younger, did not really understand it.

I mean - can't we have a little compassion for them?

At 15, they should not have had him walk 2 miles, with people calling weeping and calling his name. Dreadful.

canklesmctacotits · Yesterday 22:18

Lemonpossett · Yesterday 22:11

But you wouldn’t have had hundreds of thousands of wailing spectators lining the streets to watch you …. Hardly a realistic comparison

🤷‍♀️ if my mum had died and I had my dad with me, I wouldn’t have cared one bit whether I was a snotty mess. And the is lot certainly took and take a dim view of said “wailing spectators”. Can’t remember who it was that suggested the public were crazy leaving all those flowers and crying in public, they didn’t even know her. Think it was one of the boys. They all look down on the hoi poloi. They’re literal kings and queens and princes and princesses. I don’t think either of them, at those ages, would have given a second’s thought to their public PR image!!

upinaballoon · Yesterday 22:28

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 21:58

@upinaballoon
Did those funerals you attended have thousands of people wailing and shrieking as the cortège passed by?

No.
If people are anti-RF they will find fault with whatever the RF did at the time.
I wasn't there. I saw it on TV, so I can't know how much the wailing and shrieking was.
The boys were poor kids because their mother had died suddenly. They didn't become poor kids because they walked behind her coffin. They would have been poor kids whatever they'd done that day. How the hell does any family know the perfect way to deal with children/teenagers who've been bereaved of a parent? Do you think any person deliberately did anything to hurt the boys that week? Even if they looked back and thought they should have done differently surely everyone at the time wanted to do what was all right for the boys.

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 22:29

@canklesmctacotits
Were both your parents on national television baring their souls to the nation about the state of their marriage?
Did your father have an OW ?
Were his phone calls to her tapped and reported world wide?

upinaballoon · Yesterday 22:30

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 22:08

@upinaballoon
William was 15. His mother had died in the most tragic circumstances. They walked for 2 miles behind her coffin. He should have been protected.

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How?

Eastie77Returns · Yesterday 22:31

AlonsoMosley · Yesterday 22:16

He was only 15.

At 15, he would have understood entirely what was going on. Harry being younger, did not really understand it.

I mean - can't we have a little compassion for them?

At 15, they should not have had him walk 2 miles, with people calling weeping and calling his name. Dreadful.

My memories of the whole episode are quite hazy but I do recall Harry looking completely bewildered. I think he said that for years he thought she might not really be dead. He’s never come to terms with it.

Musketpipeanddrum · Yesterday 22:32

upinaballoon · Yesterday 22:02

William wasn't a kid. At what point do you let your children follow a coffin? Not until they're 22?

Goodness me. How callous.

William was fifteen fhs. A peak age for a teen to feel self-conscious and sensitive, never mind a teen who had just lost his mother. Even more so than for a younger child perhaps who understands less of the surrounding circumstances?

And it wasn’t a question of walking behind his mother’s coffin at a private family funeral among people who were familiar to him. That would be hard enough. But between two to 2.5 billion people watched Diana’s funeral on television, Many adults would find it very challenging for one of their hardest moments in their lives to be broadcast globally, never mind a fifteen year old.

In this matter, Charles Spencer was quite right, and I think posters determined to argue otherwise are letting their unfailing enthusiasm for the monarchy to get in the way of common sense and basic compassion.

TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 22:34

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 21:37

Yes, was that the business with Sophie C?

Yes, that’s right; but it’s Sentebale the charity that has filed suit in the High Court to stop Harry and Dyer allegedly defaming and causing loss to the organisation, of which Sophie Chandauka (hon doc) is Chair of the Board of Trustees.

ETA: excuse my SPAG tonight, I’ve an eye issue and I’m not seeing straight.

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:34

The Guardian included Earl Spencer’s eulogy at Diana’s funeral in its “Great Speeches of the 20th Century” series. It’s worth going back and remembering what he actually said, because the speech was about considerably more than simply praising his sister. It contained some very pointed remarks about the treatment Diana received from the press, the Royal Family and the way William and Harry should be brought up.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/may/04/greatspeeches1

Beryl Bainbridge: The loss of the people's princess

Beryl Bainbridge: Only when one bears in mind the events surrounding Diana's life does one begin to see the real meaning behind the words of Earl Spencer's speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/may/04/greatspeeches1

canklesmctacotits · Yesterday 22:34

SeptemberRains · Yesterday 22:29

@canklesmctacotits
Were both your parents on national television baring their souls to the nation about the state of their marriage?
Did your father have an OW ?
Were his phone calls to her tapped and reported world wide?

No, and I don’t think any of those things are relevant to the walking-behind-the-coffin decision. Anyway, I’ve no interest in arguing with a stranger about this, it’s a waste of your time and mine!

RevelationsMayVary · Yesterday 22:38

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 22:06

I can see both sides of this one.

Diana had a distant relationship with her mother following her parents' divorce - after her mother's second marriage she moved 500 miles away, and Diana saw her rarely in the holidays (the divorce and custody case was nasty).

From what I can see they remained fairly distant in Diana's adulthood, and at the time of her death were estranged, with Frances' letters being returned.

I can see why some sort of contact (letter of condolence, perhaps) might be expected.
I can also see why someone might not contact the estranged parent of their son's ex-wife.
Presumably Charles was the point of contact around the time of the funeral?

Did Frances contact the Queen?

Do we know what relationship Frances had with W&H growing up? Have they ever mentioned her or been photographed with her?

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:39

foxylady2 · Yesterday 22:34

The Guardian included Earl Spencer’s eulogy at Diana’s funeral in its “Great Speeches of the 20th Century” series. It’s worth going back and remembering what he actually said, because the speech was about considerably more than simply praising his sister. It contained some very pointed remarks about the treatment Diana received from the press, the Royal Family and the way William and Harry should be brought up.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/may/04/greatspeeches1

There is no doubt that she was looking for a new direction in her life at this time. She talked endlessly of getting away from England, mainly because of the treatment that she received at the hands of the newspapers. I don't think she ever understood why her genuinely good intentions were sneered at by the media, why there appeared to be a permanent quest on their behalf to bring her down. It is baffling.

My own and only explanation is that genuine goodness is threatening to those at the opposite end of the moral spectrum. It is a point to remember that of all the ironies about Diana, perhaps the greatest was this: a girl given the name of the ancient goddess of hunting was, in the end, the most hunted person of the modern age.

She would want us today to pledge ourselves to protecting her beloved boys William and Harry from a similar fate and I do this here, Diana, on your behalf. We will not allow them to suffer the anguish that used regularly to drive you to tearful despair.

And beyond that, on behalf of your mother and sisters, I pledge that we, your blood family, will do all we can to continue the imaginative and loving way in which you were steering these two exceptional young men, so that their souls are not simply immersed by duty and tradition, but can sing openly as you planned.

We fully respect the heritage into which they have both been born, and will always respect and encourage them in their royal role.

But we, like you, recognise the need for them to experience as many different aspects of life as possible to arm them spiritually and emotionally for the years ahead. I know you would have expected nothing less from us.

William and Harry, we all care desperately for you today. We are all chewed up with sadness at the loss of a woman who was not even our mother. How great your suffering is we cannot even imagine.

Bogstandardname · Yesterday 22:50

It is highly likely they were walking behind an empty coffin, Diana's body having been cremated the night before and her ashes placed with her father in the village church. The church where Charles Spencer married his first wife.

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 22:53

RevelationsMayVary · Yesterday 22:38

Do we know what relationship Frances had with W&H growing up? Have they ever mentioned her or been photographed with her?

I don't know, but unfortunately, at the time of her death, she and Diana were not speaking to each other. I believe Frances strongly disapproved of Diana's relationship with Dodi.

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 22:54

TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 22:34

Yes, that’s right; but it’s Sentebale the charity that has filed suit in the High Court to stop Harry and Dyer allegedly defaming and causing loss to the organisation, of which Sophie Chandauka (hon doc) is Chair of the Board of Trustees.

ETA: excuse my SPAG tonight, I’ve an eye issue and I’m not seeing straight.

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What a mess! It's a shame when that happens to a charity. I've heard bad stuff about Harry's other charity, African Parks. A whole other story.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · Yesterday 22:55

TheOvertGardener · Yesterday 02:00

New? Are you suggesting the real ones have been replaced? 😉

Well, there WAS that discovery of the existence of pod people in southern California a couple of months ago. They were walking around with Bigfoot in search of Yeti. 🐾🐾

Hhhhmmmmm.......something to ponder. 🤔😱😂😉

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