Harry and Meghan have removed Archie and Lilibet from school after two days

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Breaking news in the Daily Mail. Duke and Duchess of Sussex's children 'removed from school after two days' mol.im/a/16130877 via https://dailym.ai/android

I do wonder if there is actually any school that will be able to meet their expectations in regard to security. I'm interested to see how it all plays out.

How useless a security detail do you have to be not to wonder if term time traffic would make a difference to the journey though? Wouldn’t you think they would ask that very basic question of the school? Private schools everywhere in the country tend to suffer from congestion because there are not generally school bus services that can be used. Although any school, private or otherwise, gets busy during the school run. It’s a pretty major oversight not to have taken this in to account

Good grief. If it was a state school it would trigger serious repercussions. I really question what goes on in some of these private schools. Crazy.

Reports are that Lilibet and H were seen at a Reception classroom, so it would appear she has been deferred a year as she is already five but summer born. Wonder if similar has applied to Archie, making a transition from US system.

@IcedPurpleI never suggested his fears of the press were rational but ime it is not unknown for photographers to stand outside the entrance of a school if they know higher profile/celebrity families are attending. Probably more true of minor celebs whose agents tip them off! The ig reel seemed odd timing with all this going on (and who books a media person to come along on a casual family country walk, any more than on a ski slope)

Why do you admire Harry and Meghan?

I never suggested his fears of the press were rational but ime it is not unknown for photographers to stand outside the entrance of a school if they know higher profile/celebrity families are attending.

Really? Can you think of any recent examples where the children of celebrities have been photographed coming and going from school? Certainly no British publication would look at them, so it would seem a pretty poor use of a photographer's time.

In any case, photographers may be unpleasant and intrusive but are not in themselves a security threat requiring taxpayer funded protection.

Just the celeb effect I guess. Same way people are happy if the spot film or sports stars

Totally agree with their intentions, but is there really any appetite for their whiny grousing any more? Oprah got badly burnt last time, I doubt she’d want a rehash.

I still think that means security didn't do due diligence.

The first day or days back at secondary here can be bad for traffic on main road - it's not unpredicatable it happens every year - same with last location with primary school bin day was horric for thsoe who drove or where I went to seocndary school one road with three secondaries down it - it should only take a few questions to school or locals to work out.

I can understand they have secuity concerns and there may well be real issues with this route and school - I just can't see why this has come as a surprise to point young kids after a huge move have to do another first day at new school - it must be hugely unsettling for the kids.

Oh right, I thought you meant you admired them as people.

No, they’ve been pretty much universally derided (laughed at, tbh) with this latest stunt.

There seems to be a current tendency to diminish Harry's egregious behaviour over the past few years, and to suggest that this has all been a public family disagreement that could be resolved if people would only sit down and talk about it.
The truth is considerably different.

Harry has repeatedly, publicly, attacked the Head of State and accused him of overstepping his constitutional boundaries.
He has repeatedly attempted to pressurise HM Government and independent professional committees.
He has repeatedly maligned HM Courts and recently personally vilified one of HM independent judges.

This is all entirely separate to his horrendous behaviour to his family.

Both the Family and the family are unlikely to have very much to do with him for some considerable time.

@MamainWonderlandwhy feel sorry for them? They should have planned better. You don't mess around with children's schooling.

I think there is the likelihood that the access routes to and from that specific school would present a risk. The job of their security team is to imagine the worst case scenario and map out their response. If one of the children was to be targeted - entering or exiting the car, or while stationary in traffic - or if the children needed to be extracted at speed as the result of a confirmed threat, could it be done safely and with a limited risk to the public? Could they get those cars out fast - and could the emergency services arrive at speed. Knowing that part of town - narrow roads - many one-way, densely populated, tree cover, at least three large schools in close proximity and severe congestion - emergency extraction by vehicle at certain times of the day would be slow. I don't know their California setup, but I'm guessing that the winding backstreets of Oxford present a different logistical challenge!

Me too - like most of the country I thought M would be a wonderful asset to the RF - how wrong I was!
Somehow she has managed single handedly to bring out the very worst in H and I just expect more drama, tantrums lies, upset etc etc from both of them.
Part of me does not believe they should have security but I think RAVEC will cave in.
It was lead news on GMTV this morning but not the other ‘news’ channels - I checked.
Very disappointed in GMTV especially when you think of all the more important stuff going on in the UK and the world.

Yes, I don't disagree - they've been let down somewhere on that decision-making journey. I work 'in' the security industry - I am not a specialist - and those access routes would make me do a double-take. However, I expect the extent of the problem requires local knowledge - and it doesn't seem like they either had time or opportunity to seek that.

Exactly. Everyone has a right to protect their peace, and if that means grey rocking the batshit side of the family even when they try to provoke a reaction endlessly…..so be it.

I wouldn’t be eager to make up with a family member who had repeatedly bad mouthed me to the press.
Good on William for protecting himself and his family.

Next we'll hear, the King didn't want to give use armed security so we are now forced to send dc to boarding school waahh.

Then they should have not made such a rash move?

There is that of course.😀

It gives me bad ‘careful what you wish for’ vibes.

However, I expect the extent of the problem requires local knowledge - and it doesn't seem like they either had time or opportunity to seek that.

Why not? As I said above, unless there is something we don't know about, they had all the time, money and resources in the world to plan the trip. What on earth prevented them from engaging the services of local security experts? They are responsible for their children's well being and security, and they have failed them. They don't deserve any sympathy.

I suspect the RF and staff kept Harry's personality and behaviour under wraps.

But I think it’s more clear cut than that. There are 2 reasons why the Sussex children won’t be able to do those “royalling” things - the carriage rides and balcony appearances:

• HAM have rejected royal life and poured contempt on it, and the work done by KC, W&C. They left (something they seem to have forgotten), saying they wanted freedom for themselves and their children. There’s no going back and they need to accept that.
• children have to be brought up to “royal”. They need to sit through formal events and long church services and know how to greet and converse with all kinds of people. If their parents have opted out, this can’t happen. Meghan wasn’t brought up to do these things and it showed - eg in her impatience when H talks to members of the public, or her own lack of interest in ordinary people - as well as her always looking for the camera. I doubt all this could be learned later, and anyway, W will cut back on the working royals even more so Archie and Lili will be surplus to requirements.

However, I expect the extent of the problem requires local knowledge - and it doesn't seem like they either had time or opportunity to seek that.

A look on Google Earth/Street View would show the road layout. I look at Street View if I'm going somewhere I haven't been before, why wouldn't a professional security person?