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Ham pr disasters 39! The Uganda divide…diplomatic necessity vs needless pandering.

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jeffgoldblum · 14/09/2026 18:34

Continuing the discussion, still interested, still not bored!

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RastaMouse99 · Yesterday 22:50

Choux · Yesterday 22:40

Don’t forget a security team at home base to keep that secure while H is out ‘royalling’, M is jam making in Montecito and the kids are at school / play dates etc.

Someone mentioned that B and E got security paid for by AMW (who got money from the Queen) once their Met security was stopped. I imagine if Charles agreed to pay for the family’s security the requests to the Home Sec and RAVEC would suddenly stop. I think Harry knows he doesn’t need the bells and whistles security that RAVEC can provide but he just needs someone else to pay for the security he thinks he does need.

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Nobody can hire the police privately.
The armed police are the only people in Britain permitted to bear loaded arms in public.
So even Charles can't provide Harry with the security he craves. (It's madness, it's so intrusive. Why anyone would want security unnecessarily.)

ilovemykindle · Yesterday 22:56

Was the RAVEC meeting today. When are the results from the RAVEC meeting made public or will they be kept secret.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 22:58

ilovemykindle · Yesterday 22:56

Was the RAVEC meeting today. When are the results from the RAVEC meeting made public or will they be kept secret.

They're kept completely confidential, and exempt from Freedom of Information.
For obvious reasons.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:02

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 22:58

They're kept completely confidential, and exempt from Freedom of Information.
For obvious reasons.

Yes but HAM will f* it up and announce it

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:03

SanguineAutumnalCrow · Yesterday 22:02

There’s been a heist!

I’m wondering how HaM’s hapless PR will spin this one …

Copies of Uncle Spencer’s book about St Diana of the Car Boot Boyfriends have been nicked, the book that was to be serialised in the Mail for £££. Now it’s in the hands of awful furrin bandits.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16134057/Earl-Spencers-bombshell-new-book-stolen-copies-Earls-explosive-book-sister-Diana-King-reacted-death-taken-raid-Dutch-lorry.html

🤣🤣🤣
Increasingly, I feel like I'm living in a strange alternative Universe. This is just so funny!

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:05

ilovemykindle · Yesterday 22:56

Was the RAVEC meeting today. When are the results from the RAVEC meeting made public or will they be kept secret.

Why is RAVEC still meeting about this issue? For goodness sake the decision has been made over and over again already! Can someone please explain?

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:09

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:05

Why is RAVEC still meeting about this issue? For goodness sake the decision has been made over and over again already! Can someone please explain?

He demanded a review now that's he's living here and Meg and kids also having a review too. I feel for you, my UK sisters, from Dublin

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:10

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:03

🤣🤣🤣
Increasingly, I feel like I'm living in a strange alternative Universe. This is just so funny!

This is mental. 15 car convoys for school runs and Dutch book thieves

KatStratford · Yesterday 23:13

I was opposed to Harry receiving state-funded security but now I’ve changed my mind. Given his increasingly erratic behaviour, I think the it is he who is the security risk and he should have armed police on his tail 24/7. Should that happen, how long before HaM complain about invasion of privacy?

spreadandsprinkles · Yesterday 23:15

It appears M has leaked her own mobile number on a school WhatsApp group for a school I am not even sure her kids are at.

BillyBites · Yesterday 23:16

Just saw the Chris Ship interview on GMB from this morning. Ed Balls had the right idea and slid in a couple of, “who said that? Harry and Meghan?”
Sounded to me as if he has the measure of them. And Chris didn’t really have an answer for it.

UncleColm · Yesterday 23:17

Another short clip released on Instagram showing Harry driving... I could be wrong but it looks like he's not wearing a seat belt? Maybe one of you are more eagle eyed and can tell?

I really don't get the point of releasing clips like this and photos.... Shouldn't they be just using this time to settle their children and themselves into their new life here. Keeping the heads down until they are all settled.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:18

BillyBites · Yesterday 23:16

Just saw the Chris Ship interview on GMB from this morning. Ed Balls had the right idea and slid in a couple of, “who said that? Harry and Meghan?”
Sounded to me as if he has the measure of them. And Chris didn’t really have an answer for it.

Saw that too. I think even Chris shit looked embarrassed

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 23:18

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:05

Why is RAVEC still meeting about this issue? For goodness sake the decision has been made over and over again already! Can someone please explain?

There was always going to be a reassessment as soon as they decided to move back to the UK.

His bespoke arrangement was based on the unique position of being a non-working royal living outside the UK but travelling back frequently, giving notice and having security assessed on a case-by-case basis.

He will now have his security assessed on the same basis as all other non-working royals living in the UK. It will be assessed according to current risk, and recommendations for security made.

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:19

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 23:18

There was always going to be a reassessment as soon as they decided to move back to the UK.

His bespoke arrangement was based on the unique position of being a non-working royal living outside the UK but travelling back frequently, giving notice and having security assessed on a case-by-case basis.

He will now have his security assessed on the same basis as all other non-working royals living in the UK. It will be assessed according to current risk, and recommendations for security made.

Thanks for the explanation.

UncleColm · Yesterday 23:21

spreadandsprinkles · Yesterday 23:15

It appears M has leaked her own mobile number on a school WhatsApp group for a school I am not even sure her kids are at.

I saw this too.... They want the taxpayers to pay for convoys and armed security people but yet they themselves don't even do basic safeguarding 101.

Can you imagine what she'd be like on a class WhatsApp group?!

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:25

UncleColm · Yesterday 23:21

I saw this too.... They want the taxpayers to pay for convoys and armed security people but yet they themselves don't even do basic safeguarding 101.

Can you imagine what she'd be like on a class WhatsApp group?!

This is just getting absolutely ridiculous. Surely this will scupper any chance of funded security???

Thedom · Yesterday 23:26

I don’t think they have had this amount of exposure since the Oprah interview, they must be delighted with it all.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:27

Thedom · Yesterday 23:26

I don’t think they have had this amount of exposure since the Oprah interview, they must be delighted with it all.

This is exactly what they wanted

Lunde · Yesterday 23:28

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 22:58

They're kept completely confidential, and exempt from Freedom of Information.
For obvious reasons.

We'll know the result as HAM always brief the press! 🙄🙄

Although sometimes they "manifest" - like them briefing their guaranteed, "nailed on" security earlier in the year.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:37

OctarineGrass · Yesterday 20:32

I could be wrong but having seen this play out in person, I believe this round is 'the show of force'. The lies, the tantrums, the sulks, the pretend amazing life etc have not gotten them what they want from the RF.

Since they returned to the UK it's clear they are just going to be royal (their version of royal) because dammit they are royal and no one is going to stop them. Every move from here on will be directed at showing the RF that they cannot be dismissed and they will be the most important members of the RF.

They are going to force it to happen by refusing to follow any of the rules laid out for them, and by continually pushing their narrative by showing up and doing things they are not suppose to be doing (all while shitting all over KC/W&C). It is going to be the worst shit show yet.

H wants W's role and M wants C's, and their DC are to replace W&C's DC (without the actual work). If they don't get it, M for sure will be happy to see the RF sink with H following her lead. It's going to get messy and costly very soon.

I don't think the school change is about them being dim about how things work, this is about them making a huge issue about everything good or bad - death by a thousand cuts for the RF.

That may be what they want but …… if you wish with one hand and crap in the other ….what happens when you clap!👏……..

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PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 23:38

Lunde · Yesterday 23:28

We'll know the result as HAM always brief the press! 🙄🙄

Although sometimes they "manifest" - like them briefing their guaranteed, "nailed on" security earlier in the year.

They're so ridiculous, aren't they?! It's secret for a reason!

Choux · Yesterday 23:40

Even if he gets the security now as the son of the monarch he won’t keep it forever. Being the king’s brother makes him less of a target than being the king’s son. And also less interesting to the media other than the tabloid stories of his estrangement from his brother. They might not even stay in the country once reality bites as to all the bridges they have burnt with the upper class and wealthy.

Anne was 2nd in line when born. She is now 19th partly because her younger brothers jumped ahead of her when they were born due solely to being male. If the Wales kids have 6 kids between them Harry will drop to 10th so double digits. That. Will. Hurt.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 23:40

Fondmemories · Yesterday 23:05

Why is RAVEC still meeting about this issue? For goodness sake the decision has been made over and over again already! Can someone please explain?

Because they have to frequently reassess as situations change.

UncleColm · Yesterday 23:42

Thedom · Yesterday 23:26

I don’t think they have had this amount of exposure since the Oprah interview, they must be delighted with it all.

I know they say that there is no such thing as bad publicity...but I have always disagreed with that.

The thing about changing the kids school because they didn't understand/research/appreciate that areas around schools are busy at school times show they are really stupid. I'm not sure what other word to use!

And that they are living in some billionaires house shows they are grabby. And that they have released identifying information on social media shows they are reckless.

And that they were looking for clarification on the statement from the King shows they have a massive sense of entitlement.

I can't see how anyone will take them seriously... I already had a low opinion of them but it has sunk even lower this week.