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Ham pr disasters 39! The Uganda divide…diplomatic necessity vs needless pandering.

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 18:34

Continuing the discussion, still interested, still not bored!

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PleasantGreenPorcupine · Today 16:06

Aprilfountain · Today 16:01

Absolutely, I find it baffling why on earth ITV and it's employees seem to act like HAM's lapdogs!

They do; it's such shoddy journalism. Like their recent claim that there were "genuine threats" against Harry. Turned out to be from Harry's own camp!
Utterly ridiculous.

Rentfreeinyourhead · Today 16:08

I still want to know who this other girl is. And did her parents give consent?

Ham pr disasters 39! The Uganda divide…diplomatic necessity vs needless pandering.
BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:09

I don't care if HAM continue to get bespoke state-provided security coverage while in the UK as they did when they lived in the US and just visited the UK. If Harry thinks this is some kind of clever trick to get himself accepted as a working royal, then he's going to be very disappointed (again).

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:13

Lunde · Today 15:32

Well by that measure AMW is still in the LoS, was once in a higher position than Harry will ever be.and is arguably the most at risk. Is Chris Shit arguing for taxpayer security for him?

There are around 5700 people in the LoS. Should they all get state-backed security on demand?

What about when William's children grow up and start having their own kids and Harry gets pushed even further down the LoS? Will he still deserve state security?

AcrossthePond55 · Today 16:16

IcedPurple · Today 13:51

I don't normally say this sort of thing but I wonder if Archie has been photoshopped in? It's just such an odd thing for a 7 year old to do. And why is he always on his own?

I think it was more a situation of the photog (or M) saying "Now, when I shout 'Action' you two run about in the grapevines. And remember not to face the camera!! Aaaaannnnd ACTION!!!" upon which the children run about in an odd fashion because they have no idea what the 'director' actually meant.

Fondmemories · Today 16:17

AtIusvue · Today 09:57

And still not one pic of Archie and Lili interacting. Never playing together, never chasing each other, never reading together etc.

Yes, that's very odd indeed.

TheRealHousewife · Today 16:24

Starryfifty · Today 15:43

I zoned out as I find Chris Shit quite ridiculous. He did say there were death threats and Ed Balls asked did HAM camp tell you this ? Answer, a sheepish yes

I can’t listen to anything Chris Ship says … I don’t find him credible and just an extension of HaM’s PR machine. Either that or he is just the biggest Brown Nose I’ve seen for quite some time 👃 🍑 💩

Dameputtingonabraveface · Today 16:24

Harry's biggest problem is his self-importance and failure to recognise that now he is a 'private citizen' he really has nothing to offer. I think most of the world respected his decision to walk away from being a working royal, however he blew all goodwill almost immediately with his whinging and constant narrative about victimhood and mind-blowing entitlement having decided to leave and then continuously berate the institution that gave him his platform.

He is obviously not very bright, and also a self absorbed truculent middle aged man who considers himself hard done by. The MIGs played a blinder keeping up his 'cheek chappy' persona well into his 30s.

I have posted this before, but I have diminishing empathy for the 'poor Harry- lost his mother young narrative'. My DC and other posters on this thread have supported their amazing children through the loss of a parent in formative years- usually having to carry on with our jobs, no mental health support and a significant loss in household income. My DC will always have suffered this trauma but at 20 is an amazing young person, at uni and working and making the most of their life. Harry himself has said he has accessed lots of therapy, but is still fixated on and defines his personality by the loss of his mother nearly 30 decades later.

He is just really unlika

Starryfifty · Today 16:24

Fondmemories · Today 16:17

Yes, that's very odd indeed.

The dynamic is always very very odd

Starryfifty · Today 16:25

I don't think I have seen Tom Sykes laugh as much as the past 10 days

Dameputtingonabraveface · Today 16:27

Posted too soon. He just really unlikable and Meghan does not help- she has no actual personality and just pivots to whatever she thinks will make her relevant. Together they are just tragic and this is why we cannot look away.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 16:29

From Chris Shit
“The previous school is, I am told by those in the know, actually relieved that Harry and Meghan relocated their children."

RastaMouse99 · Today 16:29

Lunde · Today 15:32

Well by that measure AMW is still in the LoS, was once in a higher position than Harry will ever be.and is arguably the most at risk. Is Chris Shit arguing for taxpayer security for him?

Technically, everyone on the planet is in the Line of Succession. They had to veer off to Germany at one point.

IcedPurple · Today 16:30

AcrossthePond55 · Today 16:16

I think it was more a situation of the photog (or M) saying "Now, when I shout 'Action' you two run about in the grapevines. And remember not to face the camera!! Aaaaannnnd ACTION!!!" upon which the children run about in an odd fashion because they have no idea what the 'director' actually meant.

Yes probably.

All their photos are so weird. Nobody is ever interacting in any sort of normal manner. The kids are never playing with each other or anyone else. All vaguely depressing, which I don't think is the vibe she's going for.

IcedPurple · Today 16:33

RastaMouse99 · Today 16:29

Technically, everyone on the planet is in the Line of Succession. They had to veer off to Germany at one point.

I think the person identified as the last known person in the LoS was found to be a doctor working in a small town hospital somewhere in Germany!

IcedPurple · Today 16:34

Rentfreeinyourhead · Today 16:08

I still want to know who this other girl is. And did her parents give consent?

I'm not suggesting anything untoward is going on, but that photo, with him kissing Lili on the lips, is a bit ick. Why would you share it with the world? And why the multiple family photos for the non milestone birthday of a middle aged man?

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Today 16:36

IcedPurple · Today 16:34

I'm not suggesting anything untoward is going on, but that photo, with him kissing Lili on the lips, is a bit ick. Why would you share it with the world? And why the multiple family photos for the non milestone birthday of a middle aged man?

All valid questions. All those photos for his 42nd birthday? Talk about over kill.

Whoopiedooo · Today 16:37

The kissing man/littlegirl on the lips pose is properly ick. It's makes me gag a bit every time I see it. Mind you I don't actually want to see any of them kissing. ekh.

Starryfifty · Today 16:37

Mylovelygreendress · Today 16:29

From Chris Shit
“The previous school is, I am told by those in the know, actually relieved that Harry and Meghan relocated their children."

I'd say they are but not for the reasons Mr Shit thinks

MrsLeonFarrell · Today 16:38

Mylovelygreendress · Today 16:29

From Chris Shit
“The previous school is, I am told by those in the know, actually relieved that Harry and Meghan relocated their children."

Chris is probably thinking of the so called security threat when he reported that but I bet the other parents just didn't want the drama at their children's school.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Today 16:38

Why on earth do they have to keep showing pictures of them kissing each other?

Rentfreeinyourhead · Today 16:39

Also, isn’t Lili’s right elbow pointing in a strange direction? Is she double jointed?

Laiste · Today 16:39

I just cannot imagine how either of them think for one tiny moment that any of their family over here are ever again going to be comfortable sharing a room with them.

Can you imagine how it would feel knowing you might next to be shown in a bad light in a new book. Or misquoted in a year or so in an interview. Megain sat there with her fake smile taking note of everything coming out of everyone's mouths.

What's going to happen if they stay here? I for one wouldn't be accepting their presence anywhere near me for family events. How fucking awkward is it all going to be for everyone ?!

VintageWithVerve · Today 16:45

PrivateCitizenTooDimforDiplomacy · Today 06:41

I’ve just remembered that Archie was meant to be doing “day boarding” finishing around 6pm, with Lily’s day ending around 3 or 4 pm. So THREE round trips, with each trip involving about an hour of crawling through north Oxford traffic, so about six hours a day on the school run! Of course it was unsustainable. But yeah, “security” is a much better excuse than being idiots who didn’t realise the school run was a pain in the bum.

Poor little bugger. He’d be getter no home and gong straight into bed without any time for a normal family evening.

Starryfifty · Today 16:45

Laiste · Today 16:39

I just cannot imagine how either of them think for one tiny moment that any of their family over here are ever again going to be comfortable sharing a room with them.

Can you imagine how it would feel knowing you might next to be shown in a bad light in a new book. Or misquoted in a year or so in an interview. Megain sat there with her fake smile taking note of everything coming out of everyone's mouths.

What's going to happen if they stay here? I for one wouldn't be accepting their presence anywhere near me for family events. How fucking awkward is it all going to be for everyone ?!

I really don't know. What charity is going to touch them ?? Apparently Meg has major plans for charity engagements in the UK 🙄🙄