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Ham pr disasters 36! The clap backs continue!

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jeffgoldblum · 09/09/2026 11:03

A continuation of our continuing discussion of our favourite private citizens! 😁

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PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 08:29

ReconciliationsMayVary · 10/09/2026 08:17

Surely that’s just a pisstake by the DM?

Very brave or delusional if true - it might be a bit humiliating if no one bids or it goes for a sympathy fiver. Do we think he will have stumped up the £1000 for a ticket? Probably worth the outlay for a chance to rub shoulders with Branson and all the other billionaires there.

Passingthroughagain · 10/09/2026 08:30

diddl · 10/09/2026 08:13

The letter was said to have blindsided Harry and Meghan, who claimed they did not have enough time to clarify the King's points before the guidance was released to the media.

Why would they need to clarify (alter?) anything?

It wasn't their letter!

Exactly! Unless it was making a defamatory statement about them, which it wasn't, the letter is actually none of their business. It was just reiterating an agreement they already know about. And, as @HoldMyWine points out, the language parrots their statement about coming back!

Imdunfer · 10/09/2026 08:35

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 07:21

Harry won't have learned anything from his Mum. He seems to have little understanding of the role of the Constitutional Monarchy, and even less about the structure of the RF. I won't even go into his criticism of the judiciary and misplaced idea that the Home Secretary should serve his whims.
All he knows is that once he was very rich and popular without having to do a great deal, and stuff was dealt with/paid for and he didn't have to worry. He wants that back.

Harry learned everything he needed to know about constantly presenting himself as a victim from his Mum.

He learned everything he needed to know about making sure photographers were in the right places when she wanted them to be.

He learned everything he needed to know about how to leak the stuff he wants people to know about to the press.

He's never got past being that boy who lost his Mum, I feel very sorry for him but he's his own worst enemy (or that might be Meghan).

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 10/09/2026 08:36

When a controversial dictatorial Ugandan President rejects you , you're in a bad way . 😉

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 08:40

Imdunfer · 10/09/2026 08:35

Harry learned everything he needed to know about constantly presenting himself as a victim from his Mum.

He learned everything he needed to know about making sure photographers were in the right places when she wanted them to be.

He learned everything he needed to know about how to leak the stuff he wants people to know about to the press.

He's never got past being that boy who lost his Mum, I feel very sorry for him but he's his own worst enemy (or that might be Meghan).

Edited

Very good points. At some point he's going to need to grow up; he's a 42 year old father of two, when will he ever take responsibility?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2026 08:40

Lunde · 09/09/2026 23:42

But what happened to the $8,000,000 in capital that the foundation had? It seems to have fallen into a black hole!

I think the £8 million referred to was the original money allocated to Invictus (?) in which case whatever happened to it should have appeared in the accounts long before now, but it's probably disappeared under the redactions

It was discussed earlier that, as Patron, Harry bears little financial or legal responsibility, but Lord Allen as Chair certainly does
I don't know much about him though ... who IS this guy, and is he someone from whom probity would normally be expected?

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:41

PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 08:29

Very brave or delusional if true - it might be a bit humiliating if no one bids or it goes for a sympathy fiver. Do we think he will have stumped up the £1000 for a ticket? Probably worth the outlay for a chance to rub shoulders with Branson and all the other billionaires there.

This shows the problem of mingling in a set whose net worth is orders of magnitude above your own.

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2026 08:41

Passingthroughagain · 10/09/2026 08:30

Exactly! Unless it was making a defamatory statement about them, which it wasn't, the letter is actually none of their business. It was just reiterating an agreement they already know about. And, as @HoldMyWine points out, the language parrots their statement about coming back!

Trouble is, they're quite capable of just denying or ignoring the fact they used that very phrase without any embarrassment at all.
It'll be someone else's fault.
Probably the British Press.

KittyHigham · 10/09/2026 08:44

twinklystar23 · 10/09/2026 08:04

Ravec exists for the protection on VIP and public figures therefore it now makes me wonder if per KC'S letter they are private citizens will they even be considered/assessed by Ravec in the first instance? Conversely, with being deemed a public figure, it would surely mean they have to be assessed (even if said assessment concludes security is not necessary) which provides more leverage to at least be assessed.
So whilst on the face of it KC'S letter does appear to restate the Sandringham summit has this been quietly slipped into the statement? Not withstanding some legal checking (if I'm correct) to state they are private citizens. Equally, surely if they have already been private citizens would Harry even have been able to request a judicial review with regards to ravecs decision? Hopefully someone with legal knowledge might have a helpful view on this?

But he's already in the category of people whosecurity is monitored!he has had a bespoke arrangement for years!meaning his and his family's risks are frequently reviewed KC saying he's a private citizen doesn't change that nor does choosing the the label of public figure mean the process would be any different.

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 10/09/2026 08:45

QuibblingGingerDuke · 09/09/2026 23:59

And a UK Prime Minister would say on TV “Release the sausages” when talking about the October atrocities.

Oh yes I had forgotten about that ! 😂😂😂

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:46

RAVEC also deal with VIPs and Harry is still the King’s son so creates a risk to the crown should anything happen to him (eg kidnapped). I don’t think there is much point trying to argue RAVEC should not have him on their list.

noonames · 10/09/2026 08:47

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 10/09/2026 08:36

When a controversial dictatorial Ugandan President rejects you , you're in a bad way . 😉

Harry is developing quite the collection of humiliations from around the world, isn’t he - I make that USA (take your pick), Russia (calling him a Nazi), Israel (calling out his ignorance), Australia (petition against their visit), Canada (refusing to fund them), Nigeria (criticism of Meghan’s revealing outfits) and now Uganda. Well done, Harry.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 08:48

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:46

RAVEC also deal with VIPs and Harry is still the King’s son so creates a risk to the crown should anything happen to him (eg kidnapped). I don’t think there is much point trying to argue RAVEC should not have him on their list.

Yes, he will be on the list of those who need to be assessed for security. Harry wants to be an IPP though, which seems to be at the root of many of his problems.

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:50

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 08:48

Yes, he will be on the list of those who need to be assessed for security. Harry wants to be an IPP though, which seems to be at the root of many of his problems.

We know that, we also know there is absolutely no way that can happen. He might as well want to be able to fly.

CoffeeCantata · 10/09/2026 08:51

PullTheBricksDown · 09/09/2026 22:09

If they're now going to blame Charles for the letter ruining Invictus, I guess they could show that by not expecting him to open the games, and also not accepting any of his money. I look forward to them making a statement about how principled they're going to be on this issue.

This opportunity to blame KC will be grasped with both hands by the SS. On Celebitchy recently they’ve been in despair, even coming down hard on Harry and questioning M’s judgement in allowing him to drag her back to Salty Isle, which for them must be traumatic.

In their narrative, of course, KC and William are the evil forces behind the Sussex’s problems over their return but this recent Invictus development will definitely give them a stick to beat them with,and boy, are they desperate for someone else to blame!

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 08:52

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:50

We know that, we also know there is absolutely no way that can happen. He might as well want to be able to fly.

Yes, we do know that. We also know it won't happen.
However, Harry doesn't seem to know that.
Which is a problem.

AustenitesUnite · 10/09/2026 08:52

noonames · 10/09/2026 08:47

Harry is developing quite the collection of humiliations from around the world, isn’t he - I make that USA (take your pick), Russia (calling him a Nazi), Israel (calling out his ignorance), Australia (petition against their visit), Canada (refusing to fund them), Nigeria (criticism of Meghan’s revealing outfits) and now Uganda. Well done, Harry.

A very good list but please could you add the UK (didn't want him back)

KittyHigham · 10/09/2026 08:52

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:46

RAVEC also deal with VIPs and Harry is still the King’s son so creates a risk to the crown should anything happen to him (eg kidnapped). I don’t think there is much point trying to argue RAVEC should not have him on their list.

He's had a bespoke arrangement for years! Who is saying he isn't or shouldn't be known to ravec. They most definitely have him on a list

heatdome · 10/09/2026 08:53

https://apple.news/Afqjibbn8SdCRRvgmPE-Yow

Not much sympathy from the Guardian.

On a side note I hope the media aren’t going to report every clapback. Obviously there’ll always be articles online but does it need to be on the Radio 4 headline news about HAM being “surprised” by the statement?

Opinion | Ridiculed by the press – and now King Charles is joining in. Sorry, Harry, but what did you expect? — The Guardian

The Sussexes must have hoped for a warm welcome. Then they read the king’s delicately savage letter about ‘private citizens’, says Guardian columnist Emma Brockes

https://apple.news/Afqjibbn8SdCRRvgmPE-Yow

KittyHigham · 10/09/2026 08:54

He's had a bespoke arrangement for years! Who is saying he isn't or shouldn't be known to ravec They most definitely have him on a list

CoffeeCantata · 10/09/2026 08:54

Starryfifty · 09/09/2026 22:12

I think Harry needs to be sectioned

I seriously foresee trouble in terms of his mental state. I think M is hard as nails, despite all the drama she has claimed nearly broke her. She’s a survivor but H is heading for trouble if he goes on in this impulsive and petulant way.

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:55

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 08:41

This shows the problem of mingling in a set whose net worth is orders of magnitude above your own.

Coming back to this. I think this is one area that Megan has probably been most influential in a very damaging way. Without Meghan it is likely he would have been content to mix more with old school friends whose wealth was more in line with his own. Megan introduced him to A list celebrities who se wealth sits at a different level and with whom the cannot keep up.

SaltyTea · 10/09/2026 08:57

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2026 08:40

I think the £8 million referred to was the original money allocated to Invictus (?) in which case whatever happened to it should have appeared in the accounts long before now, but it's probably disappeared under the redactions

It was discussed earlier that, as Patron, Harry bears little financial or legal responsibility, but Lord Allen as Chair certainly does
I don't know much about him though ... who IS this guy, and is he someone from whom probity would normally be expected?

They have set up an offshoot charity for the Birmingham games with Vicky Gosling as chair. You wonder why a charity with one core purpose (running the games) needs to do this. There should be more transparency with funding and expenses, especially the games rely heavily on government / state money support.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 10/09/2026 08:57

The first step in a coup d’état is to gain control of the army apart from the head of state. We think of Harry as being idiotic and vain but if you are sensitive to such actions then the attempt to bypass the head of state and seek loyalty from armed forces would look very concerning

I think this is really important - I am not going to articulate this very well, but it is all about why there has to be a framework and rules and order.

We can't let people undermine this as it then threatens society as a whole- yes Harry might just be a bumbling idiot, but that makes him even more dangerous - we don't know who is pulling the strings.

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 09:00

KittyHigham · 10/09/2026 08:54

He's had a bespoke arrangement for years! Who is saying he isn't or shouldn't be known to ravec They most definitely have him on a list

Edited

That seemed to be the implication of posters saying RAVEC only deals with public figures and the statement saying he is now a private citizen and Harry arguing he is a public figure prior to RAVEC. He clearly isn’t going to be dropped by RAVEC.

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