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Ham pr disasters 36! The clap backs continue!

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jeffgoldblum · 09/09/2026 11:03

A continuation of our continuing discussion of our favourite private citizens! 😁

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PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 07:30

Tiddlywinks63 · 10/09/2026 07:22

I actually feel sick every time I read this about Invictus.
It’s so sad that this hideous pair have absolutely no scruples in grabbing whatever they want.
Having worked with Help the Heroes and Tedworth House I know just how much injured service men and women go through and the fact the the Sussexes think it’s okay to milk a charity for whatever they can get is beyond comprehension.

I agree, it's shameful, and I don't even know how people can support them.

HoldMyWine · 10/09/2026 07:32

Hahaha slow burn in that article

noonames · 10/09/2026 07:33

sickofsixseven · 09/09/2026 18:31

And they think that relocating to the UK will mean they have to get their security paid for. The obviously cant afford the california lifestyle anymore, including paying for round the clock security. Their finances must be in dire straits if meghan agreed to move back

Maybe at some point in the long argument about security, someone said something like - there is no way British tax payers can fund your security, you don’t even live here. And Harry heard - if you lived in the UK your security would be funded by the tax payer. Awks 😬

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 07:35

noonames · 10/09/2026 07:33

Maybe at some point in the long argument about security, someone said something like - there is no way British tax payers can fund your security, you don’t even live here. And Harry heard - if you lived in the UK your security would be funded by the tax payer. Awks 😬

Possibly! He was so used to having everything sorted and paid for. He wanted "freedom" from the Institution though.

HoldMyWine · 10/09/2026 07:39

The Sussex team used “Private Citizens” first.

26 August 2026: The Sussex spokesperson
“The Sussexes are returning to the UK in a private citizens capacity, they won’t be carrying out any royal duties”
7th September 2026: The Lord Chamberlain on behalf of the King,
“The Sussexes have returned to the UK as private citizens & won’t be returning to Royal duties, in accordance with their wishes”

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 07:42

Tiddlywinks63 · 10/09/2026 07:22

I actually feel sick every time I read this about Invictus.
It’s so sad that this hideous pair have absolutely no scruples in grabbing whatever they want.
Having worked with Help the Heroes and Tedworth House I know just how much injured service men and women go through and the fact the the Sussexes think it’s okay to milk a charity for whatever they can get is beyond comprehension.

I don’t think HAM can be blamed entirely for this. The board of Invinctus have an awful lot of questions to answer too. More so the HAM as they are the ones responsible for it all.

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 07:45

Remember when Harry published Spare he was saying it could all be made right if the RF apologised to him!

OrdinaryGingerBloke · 10/09/2026 07:52

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 07:21

Harry won't have learned anything from his Mum. He seems to have little understanding of the role of the Constitutional Monarchy, and even less about the structure of the RF. I won't even go into his criticism of the judiciary and misplaced idea that the Home Secretary should serve his whims.
All he knows is that once he was very rich and popular without having to do a great deal, and stuff was dealt with/paid for and he didn't have to worry. He wants that back.

I meant what KC will have learned from his mum. Watching her deal with Andrew and her sense of duty. Sorry if that was unclear!

jeffgoldblum · 10/09/2026 07:53

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2026 06:47

Really fascinating stuff about PR practises, I thought it was interesting that they disappeared when they got pushback on the idea Harry would soon be back in the fold. No one completely agrees on here, it's the discussion that results which brings me back.

Yes the disappearance was odd ! , she was a regular poster for years, she seemed so genuinely certain, perhaps she had inside information that was briefed by hams side ( we know they were pushing that narrative) and when it turned out not to be true felt upset about being falsely informed?
still a real shame she felt that she couldn’t come back , nobody would hold her accountable for being misled .

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PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 07:54

OrdinaryGingerBloke · 10/09/2026 07:52

I meant what KC will have learned from his mum. Watching her deal with Andrew and her sense of duty. Sorry if that was unclear!

Oh, sorry! I misunderstood. Definitely, yes, KC will have learned from the late Queen.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 07:55

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 07:45

Remember when Harry published Spare he was saying it could all be made right if the RF apologised to him!

Hilarious 😂!

Mylovelygreendress · 10/09/2026 07:59

Fondmemories · 10/09/2026 06:40

Ive been thinking about their mindset and can only assume that they genuinely believe the RF have been struggling without them and by coming back they would be welcomed with open arms. Then life would return to the way it was before they left, only the RF would be rushing to apologise for their misdemeanours and they would themselves have the upper hand. I read somewhere that M is expecting an apology from Catherine. Whether that's true or not, who knows. It is evident that they are completely and utterly delusional .

I do wonder what is likely to happen down the line. It seems fairly inevitable that they will strop off to another country dragging their children with them in due course. Then what?

I am not sure I believe that Charles would ever strip their titles, I just think he couldn't bring himself to do it. The only hope is that William will take a much firmer line with them and cut off all their means to claim royal privileges.

I agree with this . When you have columnists like Liz Jones (!) and others insisting that the RF needs the Sussex stardust you can see how they would start to believe they are needed . Also , so many writers wondering who are going to plug the gaps when the Kents and Gloucesters are no longer around .
I suspect that H and M remember the heady days of 2018/19 and imagine it could be the same .
It is both sad and scary .

AustenitesUnite · 10/09/2026 08:02

jeffgoldblum · 09/09/2026 23:17

Welcome back Austen , I hope William and Anne held the British end up? ❤️

Very much so

PA looked tiny next to the POW though. They had a very long, slow walk behind the coffin from the Royal Palace to the cathedral and the roads looked cobbled, so I would imagine that PA had very sensibly worn flat shoes

The most amazing part of the service was the singing of "Abide with me" (in English) by a gospel choir ~ I was nearly in tears. If you get a chance to watch that bit on YouTube (it's towards the end of the service) it's well worth it but put your tissues on standby

Now, back to the Fussexes . . . .

twinklystar23 · 10/09/2026 08:04

KittyHigham · 09/09/2026 19:01

Surely not even Harry would think that Ravec would be influenced by a self selected label with no legal status 🤦

Ravec exists for the protection on VIP and public figures therefore it now makes me wonder if per KC'S letter they are private citizens will they even be considered/assessed by Ravec in the first instance? Conversely, with being deemed a public figure, it would surely mean they have to be assessed (even if said assessment concludes security is not necessary) which provides more leverage to at least be assessed.
So whilst on the face of it KC'S letter does appear to restate the Sandringham summit has this been quietly slipped into the statement? Not withstanding some legal checking (if I'm correct) to state they are private citizens. Equally, surely if they have already been private citizens would Harry even have been able to request a judicial review with regards to ravecs decision? Hopefully someone with legal knowledge might have a helpful view on this?

PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 08:05

TheRealHousewife · 09/09/2026 22:48

What really saddens me is how history is repeating itself. PH is intent on publicly sparring with his father and overshadowing his much awaited reign. ( Especially cruel considering King Charles is living with cancer.) Much like how he cast a heavy cloud over our beloved late Queen Elizabeth reign. He really is a disgrace. I also sense MM enables him and loads his gun. PH once said he was worried about his Grandmother and hoped she had good people around her. He should look closer to home. He doesn’t seem to have anyone around him who would have his best interests at heart plus he just doesn’t seem to learn.

I think we will see a very much slimmed down Monarchy when Prince William ascends the throne 👑

I had been thinking how it is ironic that one of the problems within the marriage of Charles and Diana was that Charles was frustrated that whilst he was pursuing important causes like the environment, organic farming or whatever, the press were only interested in Diana and what Diana was wearing etc. He even tried making jokes about it occasionally in speeches but they didn’t really land. And now he is King he is completely overshadowed by an angry son and his troublesome wife.

History repeating itself indeed.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/09/2026 08:07

Bouncywaves · 10/09/2026 03:33

I think the Invictus game would flourish with another patron. Princess Anne for example was a competitve rider in younger days. The publicity seems to be all about Harry and Meghan (and those peculiar shorts she wore) rather than focussing on the competitors. It's not as if they can bring in large sponsorship deals either.

DH and I know a couple of veterans who were involved at Invictus but no longer due to it becoming the HAM show.
I have said this before but worth repeating as I doubt they will be the only ones who feel this way .

ReconciliationsMayVary · 10/09/2026 08:07

I wonder if the July visit and audience with KIII was enough to sign off a NF first look doc? They proved they had physical access etc a doc on their return to Salty Island in shadow of Diana’s anniversary - so that’s why the sudden move?

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2026 08:12

One prize is a week on Branson’s Moskito Island, which has three villas, sleeping up to 22.
Harry has resisted offering the Tuscan-style mansion – complete with 13 and a half bathrooms – in Montecito that he and Meghan still own. He is, instead, donating a copy of his memoir, Spare.

Love it!
Harry, generous as ever.
People seem to spend like sugar-crazed toddlers with a year's pocket money in the Disney Store at these things, ime. My experience being very minor local causes, but even then, when people get drunk and competitive, auctioned things go for mad prices.
But a copy of "Spare"??
Although, perhaps he can't afford grand gestures atm.

diddl · 10/09/2026 08:13

The letter was said to have blindsided Harry and Meghan, who claimed they did not have enough time to clarify the King's points before the guidance was released to the media.

Why would they need to clarify (alter?) anything?

It wasn't their letter!

ReconciliationsMayVary · 10/09/2026 08:15

AutumnCrowWithdrawsMajestically · 09/09/2026 23:52

If Harry blows it’s going to be soon. I hope someone who knows what they’re doing is keeping en eye on him and his family. He’s volatile and unstable, and needs a bloody long stay in a clinic quite frankly.

Agree and his two massive relentless obsessions media and security possibly indicate a clinical level of paranoia associated with a MH crisis. I have seen many long term weed smokers / drug users mentally and physically unravel in their 40s - it gets them earlier than alcohol. Was there a report that MM told the family she was worried about his MH?

ReconciliationsMayVary · 10/09/2026 08:17

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2026 08:12

One prize is a week on Branson’s Moskito Island, which has three villas, sleeping up to 22.
Harry has resisted offering the Tuscan-style mansion – complete with 13 and a half bathrooms – in Montecito that he and Meghan still own. He is, instead, donating a copy of his memoir, Spare.

Love it!
Harry, generous as ever.
People seem to spend like sugar-crazed toddlers with a year's pocket money in the Disney Store at these things, ime. My experience being very minor local causes, but even then, when people get drunk and competitive, auctioned things go for mad prices.
But a copy of "Spare"??
Although, perhaps he can't afford grand gestures atm.

Surely that’s just a pisstake by the DM?

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2026 08:20

ReconciliationsMayVary · 10/09/2026 08:17

Surely that’s just a pisstake by the DM?

Hope not.
There'll be so many disappointed millionaires to find such a treasure is unavailable.
He'll probably personally sign it for an extra £1000.
For an extra £2000, you can choose your own colour of crayon.

BunnyBunbunbun · 10/09/2026 08:21

bluegreygreen · 09/09/2026 20:29

A lot of those details don't make sense when scrutinised
-Birth certificate - fairly sure the child could be registered at school in time to start and the paperwork sorted out later
-Trust regulation - how on earth would someone making a FB video know anything about this? It would be the King and his lawyers
-Tiaras - a useful addition for engagement for a video - but not really news. Most of the court jewellery (such as tiaras) is not considered personal property
-Signature of document at Sandringham - KC3 has been at Balmoral for a month
-A future monarch will be able to change arrangements where necessary

When and where Archie was born and who his parents are is very publicly known, so I'm not sure why there would be any problem with his birth certificate.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 08:22

PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 08:05

I had been thinking how it is ironic that one of the problems within the marriage of Charles and Diana was that Charles was frustrated that whilst he was pursuing important causes like the environment, organic farming or whatever, the press were only interested in Diana and what Diana was wearing etc. He even tried making jokes about it occasionally in speeches but they didn’t really land. And now he is King he is completely overshadowed by an angry son and his troublesome wife.

History repeating itself indeed.

I think it's different, though, because Diana was (for the most part) his wife and a working royal.
Harry has chosen his own path, changed his mind and now wants the original path. Sort of. Nice bits only.
It's easier to deal with, because it's nore clear cut; you got what you wanted, Harry. Suck it up.

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 10/09/2026 08:27

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2026 08:12

One prize is a week on Branson’s Moskito Island, which has three villas, sleeping up to 22.
Harry has resisted offering the Tuscan-style mansion – complete with 13 and a half bathrooms – in Montecito that he and Meghan still own. He is, instead, donating a copy of his memoir, Spare.

Love it!
Harry, generous as ever.
People seem to spend like sugar-crazed toddlers with a year's pocket money in the Disney Store at these things, ime. My experience being very minor local causes, but even then, when people get drunk and competitive, auctioned things go for mad prices.
But a copy of "Spare"??
Although, perhaps he can't afford grand gestures atm.

I'm thinking this is a wind up too.

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