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Ham pr disasters 36! The clap backs continue!

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jeffgoldblum · 09/09/2026 11:03

A continuation of our continuing discussion of our favourite private citizens! 😁

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Marmaladelover · 10/09/2026 20:30

Coming out of lurking today how much I am enjoying all of your commentary- and knowledge, thank you all.

Had to say something about that People piece . I know you have all mentioned before how they are the HAM mouthpiece but this is the first I have ever read .

pass the sick bucket !

-that parenting tip! WTF !
-Harry “working” at the studio. Trying to perform the royal duty, KC has sat on now.
-happy to be here ! I don’t think so now .

I honestly think they or their advisors must read this every day. When there is a bit of positive criticism they seem to take it on board ( only on rare occasions mind you ) This seems one attempting to make good after their incredible faux pas the last few days .

Could we all give the HAMs a wave ?

👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 20:30

Also reports that Meghan is finding it hard to recruit household staff. Before you get excited at the thought of her and the stay at home dad having to do some housework consider that unless the nanny has very strict boundaries they may find themselves looking after two big babies while the young charges are at school.

https://theblast.com/847855/meghan-markle-challenger-staff-uk/

Ham pr disasters 36! The clap backs continue!
Ham pr disasters 36! The clap backs continue!
JudgeJ · 10/09/2026 20:32

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 18:33

Not the Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream!
🤮

I wonder what his revealations about this product did for its sales, was it bought by a lot of men encouraged by Harry? Did women stopped buying it, horrified by its alternative use?

CathyorClaire · 10/09/2026 20:36

hoteltango · 10/09/2026 18:40

Harry is attending the Clinton Global Initiative annual meeting apparently.

Clinton Global Initiative announces guest lineup including Bill Nye, Prince Harry, Chrissy Teigen, Reid Hoffman

Former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are tapping Prince Harry, World Bank Group President Ajay Banga, TV personality and entrepreneur Chrissy Teigen, LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman and celebrity science educator Bill Nye for this year’s Clinton Global Initiative annual meeting.

The lineup for the yearly gathering in New York — scheduled for Sept. 22-23, during the United Nations General Assembly week — was announced Thursday.

“This year’s meeting is organized around the theme ‘How Do We Get It Right?’, charting out an affirmative vision for the future amidst rising turmoil, division, and continued cuts to government funding,” the organization, founded by the 42nd president in 2005, said in a news release.


Can't imagine what Harry has to contribute to a theme of "How Do We Get It Right?".

Billy 'cigar' Clinton and Chrissy Teigen, eh?

Has Harold not heard you're known by the company you keep?

bluegreygreen · 10/09/2026 20:37

twinklystar23 · 10/09/2026 19:51

Yes obviously he has had a bespoke arrangement, which (seemed entirely fair and proportionate to the potential risks). However, my point being that this is a clear change, in announcing their status, from Public to private citizens, and as they are now back living in the UK, and from what I hear there will now need to be a revised assessment (I'd read this prior to the kings letter) so, does the "private citizens" tag, significantly downgrade the "public figures" as far as Ravec is concerned?

It made me think as I work with many private citizens who are at significant risk of harm (though this would be to themselves/ family etc) but would not represent risks to state security ( harry being kidnapped as pp have pointed out) Nonetheless, this argument does not appear to stand up as Taylor Swift was granted protection on one occasion, and whilst the risk may have been significant, it would appear to be a bit of a stretch that it would have been a potential "risk to the state" (obviously I don't know this for certain, but think it unlikely)

I didn't say he isn't or shouldn't be assessed by RAVEC, but the clarity of the "private citizens" just made me think, especially as HAM focused especially on this part of the kings letter.

Harry had a 'bespoke' security arrangement because there was no precedent for a non-working member of the Royal Family living abroad and travelling back to the UK.
The bespoke arrangement meant that if he gave a certain amount of notice his risk would be assessed and he would be assigned the security he was deemed to need on a case-by-case basis.
Harry challenged the process by which RAVEC came to this decision in court, and lost, including in the Court of Appeal.

Now that the Sussexes are non-working members of the Royal Family living in the UK, the security arrangement needs to be revisited, so there will be another assessment.
This will now be made on the more usual basis of a non-working member of the RF living in the UK, and risks will be assessed and decisions about security needs made.

A letter from the King to the government, military and Lords Lieutenant, which clarifies that there has been no change to the Sussexes' status since 2020, does not change anything as far as RAVEC is concerned.

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 10/09/2026 20:39

CathyorClaire · 10/09/2026 20:36

Billy 'cigar' Clinton and Chrissy Teigen, eh?

Has Harold not heard you're known by the company you keep?

Chrissy Teigen ? That has to be a joke! 😂

Starryfifty · 10/09/2026 20:41

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 10/09/2026 20:39

Chrissy Teigen ? That has to be a joke! 😂

Didn't Meg have this vile bully on her crap show? Teigan is incredibly toxic.

IAmATorturedPoet · 10/09/2026 20:42

I don’t know about sales post Spare but Elizabeth Arden certainly appreciated the mention, and ran with it 😂

Ham pr disasters 36! The clap backs continue!
bluegreygreen · 10/09/2026 20:44

A question: someone said that H&M had used the term 'private citizens' themselves when they returned in August.

Does anyone have a link with a quote?

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 10/09/2026 20:44

IAmATorturedPoet · 10/09/2026 20:42

I don’t know about sales post Spare but Elizabeth Arden certainly appreciated the mention, and ran with it 😂

🤣🤣🤣
"Especially in the colder months" 😂

KilkennyCats · 10/09/2026 20:45

PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 20:30

Also reports that Meghan is finding it hard to recruit household staff. Before you get excited at the thought of her and the stay at home dad having to do some housework consider that unless the nanny has very strict boundaries they may find themselves looking after two big babies while the young charges are at school.

https://theblast.com/847855/meghan-markle-challenger-staff-uk/

What’s the relevance of M being used to the daily grind of the US in her difficulties recruiting staff in the UK?
It’s bloody obvious why people aren’t queuing up to work for them.

AustenitesUnite · 10/09/2026 20:46

IAmATorturedPoet · 10/09/2026 20:42

I don’t know about sales post Spare but Elizabeth Arden certainly appreciated the mention, and ran with it 😂

😂😂😂

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 20:47

KilkennyCats · 10/09/2026 20:45

What’s the relevance of M being used to the daily grind of the US in her difficulties recruiting staff in the UK?
It’s bloody obvious why people aren’t queuing up to work for them.

aka Limited employment rights.

KilkennyCats · 10/09/2026 20:48

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 20:47

aka Limited employment rights.

Ah.

PrivateCitizenUgandanAffairs · 10/09/2026 20:52

JudgeJ · 10/09/2026 20:32

I wonder what his revealations about this product did for its sales, was it bought by a lot of men encouraged by Harry? Did women stopped buying it, horrified by its alternative use?

I don’t even believe he remembered what creams Diana used. From age 8 he was at boarding school and holidays were split 50:50 with Charles so very limited time spent with his mother. What 8/10/12 year old boy knows what brand creams his mother uses? It’s not as if the children would have used the same bathroom as Diana either.

SqueakyDinosaur · 10/09/2026 20:54

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 20:47

aka Limited employment rights.

Erm, no. Appalling employers.

CathyorClaire · 10/09/2026 20:54

IAmATorturedPoet · 10/09/2026 20:42

I don’t know about sales post Spare but Elizabeth Arden certainly appreciated the mention, and ran with it 😂

Arf.

Burn, Harold. Burn 🔥

BreadInCaptivity · 10/09/2026 21:01

KilkennyCats · 10/09/2026 20:45

What’s the relevance of M being used to the daily grind of the US in her difficulties recruiting staff in the UK?
It’s bloody obvious why people aren’t queuing up to work for them.

Indeed.

I am sure there are a very limited number of professional housekeeping staff who fancy being called for interview, only to risk being ignored for 30 mins, then told they can leave….

Good top tier household staff with experience in working with HNW individuals will be like unicorns in that neck of the woods - I’m aware from a work colleague whose DD is a top tier nanny that poaching of top staff (and retaining your own) is akin to an Olympic sport.

The best people have no problem finding placements so who the hell would want to work with individuals whose former employees have allegedly formed a “survivors” squad.

They both fail to see, that in this (as with all their other endeavours) that reputation is everything.

damnatiomemoriae · 10/09/2026 21:09

CathyorClaire · 10/09/2026 20:36

Billy 'cigar' Clinton and Chrissy Teigen, eh?

Has Harold not heard you're known by the company you keep?

That pair would be wise to heed that little bit of advice too if they are going to be hanging out with the Sizzler…

damnatiomemoriae · 10/09/2026 21:35

You would think that some would be very, very careful about the company they keep.

Or perhaps they already know eachother very well indeed and have no need to be wary.

Or worry about any muck smudging.

thenightsky · 10/09/2026 21:43

I can't remember for sure where I read it, but suspect it was the book 'Revenge' by Tom Bower, but it was reported by a member of staff that Meghan had snapped in a meeting and said nastily 'I think we all know that I'll be your boss very soon'. And this was before the engagement was even announced.

Thedom · 10/09/2026 22:03

On reddit someone detailed the kind of personal protection Salman Rushdie had. I doubt this is what Harry wants for him and his family ….

False identity and social isolation

  • The pseudonym "Joseph Anton": He could not use his real name for any official procedures, reservations, or rentals. He chose the name by combining those of his favorite authors: Joseph Conrad and Anton Chekhov.
  • Constant relocation: During the initial months of the threat, the author and his then-wife, Marianne Wiggins, moved 56 times (averaging one move every three days) to prevent his location from leaking.
  • Fortified safe houses: He later settled in secret, government-provided properties featuring bulletproof glass, reinforced doors, advanced alarm systems, and secure containment zones or "panic rooms." Armed military escort and transport

Permanent protection:
He was constantly surrounded by at least two armed plainclothes agents and two specialized police drivers.
Armored vehicles: He traveled exclusively in two high-security armored cars moving in a convoy to throw off potential attackers.

Airline ban: Airlines such as British Airways barred him from flying on their commercial flights for nearly the entire decade, deeming him a high-level security risk to other passengers.

Strict communication controls

  • No direct contact: All his letters, packages, and phone calls were intercepted, checked, and screened by British intelligence due to the risk of letter bombs or landline tracing.
  • Incognito appearances: If Rushdie needed to attend an essential literary event, police would secure the venue hours in advance, ban backpacks, and whisk the author out through emergency exits the moment he finished speaking.

"The longer the protection lasted, the easier it was for people to believe that no one was trying to kill me and that I wanted that security solely to satisfy my vanity and my insufferable egomania." That is what Rushdie said when he decided he no longer wanted that security. He preferred to take the risk.

Following the 2022 attack in New York, Rushdie took precautions such as hiring—at his own expense—omnipresent private security and mandating access controls and metal detectors in his contracts; he lives in a residence equipped with advanced video surveillance, biometric access systems, and structural hardening to prevent tracking. He also maintained anonymity in his daily routine, minimizing spontaneous walks around Manhattan. His daily movements are coordinated using chauffeured security vehicles and pre-vetted routes.

During the ten years Salman Rushdie lived in hiding, the extreme isolation and constant tension of Operation Malachite completely destroyed his married life, leading to the end of one marriage and the unraveling of another.

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 22:21

SqueakyDinosaur · 10/09/2026 20:54

Erm, no. Appalling employers.

I mean she is used to employees having limited rights so they put up with being treated badly more.

twinklystar23 · 10/09/2026 22:28

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 10/09/2026 09:10

I saw a bit of the programme about the day the Queen died a couple of days ago - I forgot how unforgivably H had behaved around the flight to Scotland and the demand that he bring his wife and making it about him.

Stress is linked to cancer

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