King Charles orders Harry and Meghan to be treated like ordinary citizens

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Apparently an order has gone out from King Charles saying that Harry and Meghan are to be treated like ordinary citizens as they are not working members of the royal family. That's according to the DM so it must be right. The thought of those two being pleased at being ordinary is too much.

I wonder just how low they will keep their profile and if it's to do with them wishing to be involved in charities. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to set up their own mock royal court.

@Strawberrycups764 H&M are not just about family though. Every time a Royal visit is organised, the local Lord Lieutenant's office is involved. These are paid staff who liaise with the palace over visits. Harry might have been born Royal, but he’s not getting this level of organisation for any visits he makes. Neither will he get security. This is what the letter is about. It’s clarifying his role within the family - as far as working is concerned - no role.

Whst the press do is up to them. Personally I’d give them no publicity at all! Deny them the oxygen of it!

And my point was that KC did indeed share his opinions of his parents by giving a nod to a book and then following it up with an interview with the author, which was aired on tv to millions of people.

And marrying and deceiving your wife when you are knowingly in love with someone else is an entirely different and more serious matter, compared to someone entering in to a marriage in good faith. That can hardly be described as your average divorce!
Especially when there was such a power and age disparity at play,

And I note you have neglected to respond to the dodgy cash debacles and the housing of a sex offender!

Neither of them are terrible people but I reassert my pov that many things that Charles has done have been very undignified indeed. So he is on dodgy territory when he continues to ostracise Harry.

Yes. I don't think this statement has come only from the initiative of the King and the RF. I imagine that the Government and the Foreign Office and the Lords/Ladies Lieutenant and the military organisations et cetera have possibly asked for this or at least are pleased for this clarification. I think there are some people who don't want to understand that H and M are not representing the Crown but there are others who just don't. Given the speculation that there has been on TV and in the press and on SM, in the last two weeks, the reminder is no bad thing.
Folk can still speculate full tilt about Sandringham at Christmas if they need to. ITV were doing so this morning. Gives them air time to stir up dafties.

OlympicWomen

Ah. The tampon. Would you like it if your private, intimate conversations were literally broadcast? He didn't write it all down in a book and share such things with interviewers. That's the difference.

Also, he expressly said he didn't want to be a tampon, but some people don't want to or are unable to remember that.

Despite the fact he didn't say that was his wish, he did use the word "tampon".
It's really sad and surprising to find that people - especially women - in 2026 still finding the mention of sanpro so remarkable.
I've seen the word "tampon" on the RF threads followed by both "he he" and "yuk". I remember, because I challenged both. But some apparently still see menstruation as comical and/or dirty.

Eta It should also be remembered that this was private pillow talk between two people who love each other.
I know my pillow talk wouldn't stand up to being read in the cold light of day.

I like her too. But as it goes on the suspension of disbelief grows ever more difficult. What they ask us to go along with as the public is getting ridiculous.

Neither of them are terrible people but I reassert my pov that many things that Charles has done have been very undignified indeed. So he is on dodgy territory when he continues to ostracise Harry.

I'm not sure what rehashing things Charles may have done years or decades ago has to do with his official letter to government departments.

And Harry isn't being 'ostracised'? How dramatic. Charles has just reiterated the terms of an agreement reached with Harry himself. You know, when he swanned off to find freedom on the other side of the world, convinced the royals desperately needed him and his wife and that they would be superstars within months. Neither Charles nor any other royal attempted to stop them. They failed, but that's on their lack of talent and work ethic. Hardly 'ostracised'!

So he is on dodgy territory when he continues to ostracise Harry

It's not about ostracizing Harry, though, is it?

It's about not allowing the pair to set up an alternative Royal Family in the UK. It's about protecting the Monarchy as an institution with William to follow as its head.

Which is the very reason that they left the country in the first place, because the Queen put her foot down about that.

Remember this?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/12/harry-and-meghan-seek-global-trademark-sussex-royal-brand

Which bit of the many lengthy and clear explanations that this isn’t Charles as Harry’s father, but Charles as the King that is addressing Harry are you not understanding? It is not relevant what you think Charles has or hasn’t done in his personal life and how it compares to what Harry has done. Harry has been
living as a private individual for some time now. The letter from The King (who just happens to be Harry’s father), is to make clear that Harry does not represent the monarch and as such is not entitled to public money. Fuck all to do with your personal judgement of Charles’ marriage etc

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The denial is strong on here. I don't think I've ever seen so many try to shrug off a statement like that. " oh it's just the same as ever". 😂

Resolve what, exactly? As far as I can see there is nothing to resolve. What are you referring to?

Yes I agree with much of this but Harry will just continue his assertion that there are many different ways to serve.

And bc it doesn’t seem possible for him to get regular work and he has an axe to grind, he will have lots of time on his hand to think up different projects.

Also I think it’s not a good move tactically to strip a man of his titles so near to the next coronation, as it may give people ideas 😃 so H will be forever a prince and whether you are a republican or a monarchist, that is far from an ordinary title.

And so it begins all over again - they've been back in the country for less than two weeks and already they have to clap back with a LIE that they weren't told in advance of the contents of Charles' letter, when they were. A letter that was issued, because apparently clarification on HAM's position had been requested following their sudden return to the UK from California.

So Charles has confirmed that arrangements are as they were before i.e. in line with what HAM agreed following the Sandringham Summit in 2020 that hashed out the details of their exit from the role of working royals and transition to that of private citizens. No surprises, no change, confirmation of that. Should be no drama, right, since all it did was confirm that nothing has changed? But oh no, there's a conspiracy behind it, the letter is designed to deprive them of the multimillion pound security they are absolutely determined to screw from this country (for which they do nothing) and they weren't told (they were).

They are simply incapable of just living quietly and doing their thing. They always have to respond. They will never learn that it really is best to 'never complain and never explain'.

https://inews.co.uk/news/king-tells-harry-and-meghan-they-are-still-not-working-royals-after-uk-return-4754888?srsltid=AfmBOoqYG1Hr2suMF9MNtbp-cK8zV30vHitOp4y4hxz7UwqwsDEocSo5

Excellent 👌🏼. I was thinking he's behaving like King John!

I'm a bit confused as to why people are so strongly against Harry and Meghan's own decision to live as private citizens with their own interests that are completely unrelated to the duties of the royal family.

I think KC3 is just letting both Harry, and all of the charities/corporate/ local authorities etc know where they sit as far as what they’re royally called, what comes through BP, where money comes from to pay for any expenses (ie not BP).
H&M have form of faux royal tours, faux royal behaviours, breaking the Sandringham ‘agreement’ and albeit they may not have been agreeable, they effectively left a job, you don’t keep perks or any trappings of old jobs.
if I recall, QE2 said they had a year to see if they’ve made the right move, around a year later came the bombshell Oprah bag of lies and ‘my story’ guff, they said no we’re out … we’ll get on with it

Strawberrycups764

Also I think it’s not a good move tactically to strip a man of his titles so near to the next coronation, as it may give people ideas 😃 so H will be forever a prince and whether you a republican or a monarchist that is a far from ordinary title.

So, do you think he's been "stripped of his titles" or not?
You follow that by saying he "will forever be a prince".
That doesn't sound like being stripped of his titles to me.
As to speculating about the imminence of the "next coronation" - ie when Charles will die - with a laughing emoji seems rather distasteful.

… forgot to say, this letter is about business, not family, though I doubt it’ll remain that way with the ginger winger or Megain whose access to freebies / telling companies to send any bills to BP … yes I do believe H&M would try that on !

@StormGazing why are you making things up and name calling?

But as it goes on the suspension of disbelief grows ever more difficult.

Suspension of disbelief about what?

Also I think it’s not a good move tactically to strip a man of his titles so near to the next coronation,

What titles has he been stripped of? He is still Prince Harry. He is still the Duke of Sussex.

I'm glad this letter came out. It was needed

But that is the whole point that some of us Republicans are making!

The very fact that we have a RF with all of the conflict, rivalry and messy human relationships that go along with that, in the position of Head of State, is the reason why we have this situation today!

It happened with Princess Margaret too when the state became involved in the very personal matter of whether she could marry a divorced man or not.

Why not have an elected head of state and keep it strictly professional?

This has all come about precisely because we prefer to be ruled by a monarch who comes in a package with his close relations to supposedly serve the country and there is very much a muddling of state occasions with family ones eg the late Queen’s funeral. Just as there is a muddling of private and public finance to fund it all.

So for the RF and others to try and characterise this statement as “simply state business” without acknowledging the hurt and upset that accompanies it, is a bit disingenuous imho. .

It has now been clearly stated that they are private individuals who can do business and charity work like anybody else without the scrutiny and intrusion linked to being a working royal.
The media will hopefully focus on the 'working' royals now that they can no longer hide behind the excuse of a supposed ambiguity around H&M roles.

Excellent comment. I totally agree. This is unprofessional

Elizabeth was right. Charles is not a good king. The royal family has been turned into an episode of EastEnders