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PR disasters thread 33

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 01/09/2026 08:21

A shiny new thread for September Sussex shenanigans!

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HeirNspareBNB · 02/09/2026 11:06

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:08

He's a really good British actor - I can't say who it was - and I was/am still a fan of his work. I was very disappointed he was such a vain, silly rather paranoid man in real life! Maybe he'd had bad experiences that I know nothing of....

Oh, I think I know who he is. A very good actor, but apparently a bit of a twunt IRL. He had to apologise to another actor when A didn’t realise who B’s daughter (C) was when A met C on set.

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 11:08

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 11:05

But I would imagine it would be easier to achieve in an exclusive prep school. the parents will be wealthy and hopefully unimpressed by other wealthy parents and the staff will be used to dealing with well-known 'customers'. Plus, the whole school community is much smaller than a comp and easier to communicate with.

Exactly this. We could achieve it at a large state school in North London, it can easily be achieved in a private prep school in the Cotswolds.
That's my point.

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 11:11

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 10:49

Yes, though this is hardly a random standard comprehensive.

It wasn't "random" and I don't know what you mean by "standard" .
It was a state school in a North London borough which had a mix of those students as well as teenagers from a council estate, and migrants and asylum seekers.
My point is this; we could manage child privacy there, it can be managed in a small private prep school with a larger budget.

MidlyConcerned · 02/09/2026 11:11

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 10:47

Who on earth would do that? Candles based on their own children?! 🙄

I know right! They quickly had to remove the Prince and Princess titles on the publicity
material!!

“The Duchess of Sussex has unveiled a Mother’s Day collection for her lifestyle brand, set to launch April 22, featuring two $64 signature candles inspired by the couple’s kids. The new scents follow earlier candles tied to Meghan’s own birthday and her and Harry’s royal wedding — but mark the first time the line has drawn directly from her children.

In official press materials and product descriptions, Archie and Lilibet are referred to by their full royal titles. One candle, Signature Candle No. 506, is tied to Archie’s May 6 birthday and listed as “Prince Archie of Sussex’s Birthdate.” The scent is described as “a warm, comforting scent inspired by Prince Archie of Sussex’s birthdate, bringing a soft, familiar ease into the room,” with notes of ginger, neroli and cashmere — a subtle wink to his red hair. “This candle is inspired by Meghan’s son, Prince Archie,” the release states.”

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 11:16

MidlyConcerned · 02/09/2026 11:11

I know right! They quickly had to remove the Prince and Princess titles on the publicity
material!!

“The Duchess of Sussex has unveiled a Mother’s Day collection for her lifestyle brand, set to launch April 22, featuring two $64 signature candles inspired by the couple’s kids. The new scents follow earlier candles tied to Meghan’s own birthday and her and Harry’s royal wedding — but mark the first time the line has drawn directly from her children.

In official press materials and product descriptions, Archie and Lilibet are referred to by their full royal titles. One candle, Signature Candle No. 506, is tied to Archie’s May 6 birthday and listed as “Prince Archie of Sussex’s Birthdate.” The scent is described as “a warm, comforting scent inspired by Prince Archie of Sussex’s birthdate, bringing a soft, familiar ease into the room,” with notes of ginger, neroli and cashmere — a subtle wink to his red hair. “This candle is inspired by Meghan’s son, Prince Archie,” the release states.”

Oh my god! Actually using the titles as well?!
So... overtly merching the children!

MrMarkhamsFanClub · 02/09/2026 11:19

I blinked and a new thread started!
But I still believe that the school's parents and staff will be the greatest leveller H&M have met so far. I don't think they truly appreciate (yet) how much people will close ranks to protect their own children from the possible intrusive actions of a couple of parents who are unaware how that particular system works.

MidlyConcerned · 02/09/2026 11:23

I know Poppy and the SS wonder why we are fascinated by them! 🤷‍♀️

smilesy · 02/09/2026 11:26

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 10:49

Yes, though this is hardly a random standard comprehensive.

I think the point is though that safeguarding is safeguarding, whether at an expensive prep school
or a “random” comprehensive. Parents do not need to be reminded not to take photos and upload them because that is standard practice in UK schools. So the Sussexes are grandstanding again

BillyBites · 02/09/2026 11:27

That Page Six article about the request to parents about famous peers in school said further down that the school that has sent the letter is NOT the one the Sussexes have enrolled in.
So who knows what the hell is going on. It's exhausting.#

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:29

MidlyConcerned · 02/09/2026 07:07

I’m not sure where you live Lemon but the private schools in the Cotswolds have kids that you may not know of and probably not me, but can assure you there are kids much more politically important than H&Ms.

The sort of kids whose security will be of level similar to PWs. And most of the UK and the world to be fair, really don’t give a shit about H&Ms kids. I don’t think anyone under the age of 30 even knows their names.

There is and have been many famous kids in Cotswolds schools. Off the top of my head, I think Madonna’s daughter was there in the 90s. And loads of royalty from the Middle East, Nepal and Malaysia were schooled there.

Genuinely they are nobodies. Even Princess Di used to go shopping around Cirencester and nobody gave her a second glance. Same as the current PoW who has been seen out and about in supermarkets in the past. PW regularly used to wander around St Andrews and do “normal” things like going to a local cinema when he was a student.

H&M are completely delusional and if they didn’t keep announcing where they were, they could easily fly under the radar.

I can well imagine there are children in the Cotswalds who are more important politically than H&M's. But that isn't what I and others were specifically talking about, is it.

I was specifically talking about H&M being the most famous parents at this primary school/prep in the the Cotswalds. Not in the 2000s or whenever Madonna's daughter went to school. Not in London where a lot of celebreties children go to school.

There is no way that parents at that school won't know who Harry is. And yes as I will say again, he has a lot of press inches and notoriety partly because of his own actions or wishes. But he is still known.

I cannot believe that there is any family there with more international infamy or name recognition and as @jeffgoldblum @bluegreygreen and @PoppysAunt disagreed, I asked that they suggest another name more famous than Prince Harry with young children. I'm still waiting Grin

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:34

Oh and to answer your rhetorical question @MidlyConcerned , I live in London but I grew up in the Cotswalds where my parents still have a house and one of my parents is SLT at a private school there.

MrMarkhamsFanClub · 02/09/2026 11:34

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:29

I can well imagine there are children in the Cotswalds who are more important politically than H&M's. But that isn't what I and others were specifically talking about, is it.

I was specifically talking about H&M being the most famous parents at this primary school/prep in the the Cotswalds. Not in the 2000s or whenever Madonna's daughter went to school. Not in London where a lot of celebreties children go to school.

There is no way that parents at that school won't know who Harry is. And yes as I will say again, he has a lot of press inches and notoriety partly because of his own actions or wishes. But he is still known.

I cannot believe that there is any family there with more international infamy or name recognition and as @jeffgoldblum @bluegreygreen and @PoppysAunt disagreed, I asked that they suggest another name more famous than Prince Harry with young children. I'm still waiting Grin

Some people may not know who prince harry is @LemonDash, after all meghan famously didnt know 'much' about harry before they met.

HeirNspareBNB · 02/09/2026 11:37

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:34

Oh and to answer your rhetorical question @MidlyConcerned , I live in London but I grew up in the Cotswalds where my parents still have a house and one of my parents is SLT at a private school there.

Why do you keep spelling it “Cotswalds”?

smilesy · 02/09/2026 11:38

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:29

I can well imagine there are children in the Cotswalds who are more important politically than H&M's. But that isn't what I and others were specifically talking about, is it.

I was specifically talking about H&M being the most famous parents at this primary school/prep in the the Cotswalds. Not in the 2000s or whenever Madonna's daughter went to school. Not in London where a lot of celebreties children go to school.

There is no way that parents at that school won't know who Harry is. And yes as I will say again, he has a lot of press inches and notoriety partly because of his own actions or wishes. But he is still known.

I cannot believe that there is any family there with more international infamy or name recognition and as @jeffgoldblum @bluegreygreen and @PoppysAunt disagreed, I asked that they suggest another name more famous than Prince Harry with young children. I'm still waiting Grin

What is your point, though? We have already established that parents don’t give a shit about how famous other parents are. If you have paid to put your children through a school, then your money is a s good as everyone elses. What do you think parents at the schools that the Wales children attend do? Clamour for selfies and autographs?

taylorandme · 02/09/2026 11:39

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:29

I can well imagine there are children in the Cotswalds who are more important politically than H&M's. But that isn't what I and others were specifically talking about, is it.

I was specifically talking about H&M being the most famous parents at this primary school/prep in the the Cotswalds. Not in the 2000s or whenever Madonna's daughter went to school. Not in London where a lot of celebreties children go to school.

There is no way that parents at that school won't know who Harry is. And yes as I will say again, he has a lot of press inches and notoriety partly because of his own actions or wishes. But he is still known.

I cannot believe that there is any family there with more international infamy or name recognition and as @jeffgoldblum @bluegreygreen and @PoppysAunt disagreed, I asked that they suggest another name more famous than Prince Harry with young children. I'm still waiting Grin

I find this obsession with them being famous really strange. Royalty isn’t the same as celebrity. Traditionally, royalty tends to want privacy, distance, discretion, the opposite of celebrity. They have carefully managed public appearances rather than constant (self generated) exposure. The whole point is to maintain a degree of mystique and separation from ordinary celebrity culture.
Painting HaM as celebrities is quite sad.

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:42

MrMarkhamsFanClub · 02/09/2026 11:34

Some people may not know who prince harry is @LemonDash, after all meghan famously didnt know 'much' about harry before they met.

LOL that is true! But alas she has since helped him create a lot of front page headlines and lead to people googling them and discussing them on forums and social media.

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 02/09/2026 11:43

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 07:46

I really hope Meghan will refrain from using the 'Lilibet's Closet' domain name (which she registered some years ago) to merch children's clothing. That would be an unbelievably crass thing to do and would be a nightmare for the poor little girl. My guess is that she's had second thoughts about this, and thank goodness.

It's also not very....British. It might have gone down better in the States, when they were actually popular!

Yes closet is very American and of course there's another common usage.

OliveMyLove · 02/09/2026 11:44

There will be children of other highly accomplished people who have enrolled their children in school. We’d hardly know because they don’t all go prancing around wanting attention and contacting The Daily Mail because their father was Sting or their great grandfather was Prime Minister or whatever.

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LemonDash · 02/09/2026 11:50

HeirNspareBNB · 02/09/2026 11:37

Why do you keep spelling it “Cotswalds”?

Because I have dyslexia and was typing fast and it's a word that I embarrassingly make mistakes with phonetically when I don't pay extra attention. My spellchecker on here doesn't pick it up.

justcallmemarywhitehouse · 02/09/2026 11:52

LemonDash · 02/09/2026 00:18

Sorry but of course H&M&A&L will be the most relevant famous family in that school, it's absurd to think otherwise!! Even if it's by their own doing, H&M are relevant right now. Look at these threads and how much you and us all write about them. There may be other famous families there but only William's could top them.

William's children DO top them.

Famous though is an interesting word - famous is defined generally in dictionaries as being positively viewed. Meghan and Harry are well known and talked about but are more notorious. There is an unsavoury aspect to them - a suggestion of questionableness. This is based on their own conduct.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 02/09/2026 11:52

If I was worried about security for the school run, like HELL would I let my son do it without me!

Funnily enough my mum was really nervous of an abrasive neighbour when I was a kid, and would send me out to do the bins etc if she saw them about.

Whilst I never had an issue with them, even as a child I side-eyed her parenting - if she was scared, why did she expect me to face it alone?

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 11:53

MidlyConcerned · 02/09/2026 11:23

I know Poppy and the SS wonder why we are fascinated by them! 🤷‍♀️

Incredible. I didn't know that they'd sold candles, named after and relating to their children, using the full titles.
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