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BigWillyLittleTodger · 01/09/2026 08:21

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BalloonSlayer · 02/09/2026 09:41

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 08:25

Henry VIII was only 11 when betrothed to Catherine of Aragon (she was 17 at the time) and 17 when they married. Henry was 52 and Katherine Parr 31 when they married - of course he needed a woman of child-bearing age.

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Yes but nothing shrieks "young enough to be my daughter" louder than 'named after my ex wife.'

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · 02/09/2026 09:45

The late Queens mother was also called Elizabeth and I think within the family there’s a certain protocol concerning the name.

MyGreyLurker · 02/09/2026 09:48

Entertaining interview with Plum Sykes on The Royalist Tom Sykes and the Daily Beast on YouTube channel last night. She gives the lowdown on how HAM are likely to be received by the 'locals', especially at the school gates where currently the parents are 'pretend annoyed' which is like humble bragging, the difference between the Cotswolds (old money, aristocracy) and the Notswolds (the area north of the M40) which is inhabited by new money, flashy types, celebrities. She's very engaging and funny. The episode is called 'Harry & Meghan's Secret New Project Exposed' and the interview with Plum starts st 30m.32s. Well worth a watch.

HeirNspareBNB · 02/09/2026 09:49

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 09:21

I worked at an independent school at one point and a then-very-famous actor's children attended. Staff were instructed not to look at him when he came to collect the children. He'd stand well apart and gaze into the distance. Can you imagine?

It was ridiculous, and from time to time there'd be a reminder from the Head that this chap had been annoyed that some people (maybe other parents, or maybe figments of his daft imagination) had actually been staring at him.

I'm sure he was the exception and many famous people are sensible enough to know that the less fuss you make, the easier and simpler everything will be. And also - most people aren't interested in you, they're not looking at YOU, and some may not know you from Adam.

Was he a bit of a maverick?

HeirNspareBNB · 02/09/2026 09:54

I wouldn’t call the Duke of Rutland and his thousand year old castle “new money”!

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 10:08

BalloonSlayer · 02/09/2026 09:39

I haven't heard of any restrictions but none of the late Queen's granddaughters or great-granddaughters have Elizabeth as their first name, which I think it's odd as it's still a popular modern name. They all seem to have it as a middle name though. None of them are called Victoria either as a first name, and that is still a popular enough name too.

I think the only explanation is that it's not considered to be the 'done thing' in the family.

I cringed when they called their DD Lilibet, then had to remind myself that I am actually also called my Granny's nickname!! But I think the main cringe comes from Lilibet not being an actual name in its own right - as opposed to, say, Peggy which is short for Margaret but plenty of people are just called Peggy and no one bats and eyelid.

You're right, it's cringeworthy. Unlike your Grandmother's pet name, this name definitely has clear associations for future benefits.

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:08

HeirNspareBNB · 02/09/2026 09:49

Was he a bit of a maverick?

He's a really good British actor - I can't say who it was - and I was/am still a fan of his work. I was very disappointed he was such a vain, silly rather paranoid man in real life! Maybe he'd had bad experiences that I know nothing of....

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 10:11

At one London Comprehensive, I taught several children of high ranking Labour MPs, and also famous actors/musicians . I briefly taught one of the Blair children.
There was never any fuss, no photos, no bother on the school run, no problems at all.

PullTheBricksDown · 02/09/2026 10:15

MaturingCheeseball · 02/09/2026 08:50

I wonder if M will be “accidentally” photographed in the Mums’ Race at Sports Day (remember who did this?) although I think she has two (big) left feet so it might be Aitch for that one.

Thing is, both Charles AND Diana did the respective parents' races in their day - Diana got more coverage and did better, but Charles gave it a go too.

I think Meghan would love the Diana comparison (again!) but would be worried about her running not measuring up against the clearly sporty Catherine. Security will probably be a reason for not participating 🙄

MaturingCheeseball · 02/09/2026 10:17

Sorry off topic but reminds me of several decades ago I was perusing a menu in a restaurant window in The Hamptons. Then I saw the man seated inside was winking, inclining his head and he took a small bow. Then I noticed it was Alex Baldwin! He assumed I was ogling him and not the price list!

Wommmble · 02/09/2026 10:18

MyGreyLurker · 02/09/2026 09:48

Entertaining interview with Plum Sykes on The Royalist Tom Sykes and the Daily Beast on YouTube channel last night. She gives the lowdown on how HAM are likely to be received by the 'locals', especially at the school gates where currently the parents are 'pretend annoyed' which is like humble bragging, the difference between the Cotswolds (old money, aristocracy) and the Notswolds (the area north of the M40) which is inhabited by new money, flashy types, celebrities. She's very engaging and funny. The episode is called 'Harry & Meghan's Secret New Project Exposed' and the interview with Plum starts st 30m.32s. Well worth a watch.

And what is the ‘secret new project’ they have ‘exposed’?

MaturingCheeseball · 02/09/2026 10:18

Alec Baldwin, that is

AustenitesUnite · 02/09/2026 10:24

PullTheBricksDown · 02/09/2026 10:15

Thing is, both Charles AND Diana did the respective parents' races in their day - Diana got more coverage and did better, but Charles gave it a go too.

I think Meghan would love the Diana comparison (again!) but would be worried about her running not measuring up against the clearly sporty Catherine. Security will probably be a reason for not participating 🙄

Please tell me she won't wear the 'Marching with Veterans' outfit to her childrens' sports day . . . . . .

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:32

PullTheBricksDown · 02/09/2026 10:15

Thing is, both Charles AND Diana did the respective parents' races in their day - Diana got more coverage and did better, but Charles gave it a go too.

I think Meghan would love the Diana comparison (again!) but would be worried about her running not measuring up against the clearly sporty Catherine. Security will probably be a reason for not participating 🙄

It's been pointed out before that, while both women have enviable slim figures, Catherine has a long body and short legs (proportionally - they're long by most standards!) and Meghan has a short body and very long legs.

So really Meghan should be ideally suited to a parents' race!

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:34

MaturingCheeseball · 02/09/2026 10:17

Sorry off topic but reminds me of several decades ago I was perusing a menu in a restaurant window in The Hamptons. Then I saw the man seated inside was winking, inclining his head and he took a small bow. Then I noticed it was Alex Baldwin! He assumed I was ogling him and not the price list!

Ugh! Sympathy - I've had similar, though not with a celeb. Earnestly studying something else, only to realise that a vain nearby bloke thought I was admiring him. The preening was embarrssing. So irritating!

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 10:36

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:08

He's a really good British actor - I can't say who it was - and I was/am still a fan of his work. I was very disappointed he was such a vain, silly rather paranoid man in real life! Maybe he'd had bad experiences that I know nothing of....

After playing Mr Darcy in Pride and Prejudice, Colin Firth did an interview. That was enough to make me realise when I admired actors it was actually the role that I admired, not the actor, and that was written and directed by others. At most I may like their acting ability. I never understand why when famous actors speak of matters of public import or interest we should be expected to consider them any more relevant than my ordinary next door neighbour.

MaturingCheeseball · 02/09/2026 10:39

Quite, @Chrysanthemumsinpots and, I’ll whisper this, the people at school who were aspiring actors were…. not the brightest. Then to see them pontificating about politics 😡

Wommmble · 02/09/2026 10:39

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 07:46

I really hope Meghan will refrain from using the 'Lilibet's Closet' domain name (which she registered some years ago) to merch children's clothing. That would be an unbelievably crass thing to do and would be a nightmare for the poor little girl. My guess is that she's had second thoughts about this, and thank goodness.

It's also not very....British. It might have gone down better in the States, when they were actually popular!

Doubt it. It didn’t stop her formulating scented candles with the aroma of Lili and Archie to flog alongside all her other tat.

Who on earth would want the aroma of someone’s else’s kids wafting around their home.

Maybe someone grandiose and delusional enough to believe their DC are so exceptional and / or cringe and crass enough to rinse her own DCs identity for cash.

MM should take heed that:

”Children are like farts - your own are just about tolerable - other peoples are foul”.

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:45

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 10:36

After playing Mr Darcy in Pride and Prejudice, Colin Firth did an interview. That was enough to make me realise when I admired actors it was actually the role that I admired, not the actor, and that was written and directed by others. At most I may like their acting ability. I never understand why when famous actors speak of matters of public import or interest we should be expected to consider them any more relevant than my ordinary next door neighbour.

I totally agree. I'm put of any celebrity who regales us with their political views. Why are their views of more significance than yours or mine? They just have a platform. I've gone off many a virtue-signalling actor, unfortunately. I have a particular scepticism about the left-wing actors who send their children to private schools (the one I mentioned was a big Labour supporter).

I think Ricky Gervais has made this point a few times, and they don't like him for it!

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 10:47

Wommmble · 02/09/2026 10:39

Doubt it. It didn’t stop her formulating scented candles with the aroma of Lili and Archie to flog alongside all her other tat.

Who on earth would want the aroma of someone’s else’s kids wafting around their home.

Maybe someone grandiose and delusional enough to believe their DC are so exceptional and / or cringe and crass enough to rinse her own DCs identity for cash.

MM should take heed that:

”Children are like farts - your own are just about tolerable - other peoples are foul”.

Who on earth would do that? Candles based on their own children?! 🙄

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:47

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 10:11

At one London Comprehensive, I taught several children of high ranking Labour MPs, and also famous actors/musicians . I briefly taught one of the Blair children.
There was never any fuss, no photos, no bother on the school run, no problems at all.

Quite - that's the way to do it.

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 10:49

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 10:47

Quite - that's the way to do it.

Yes, though this is hardly a random standard comprehensive.

AustenitesUnite · 02/09/2026 11:02

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 10:47

Who on earth would do that? Candles based on their own children?! 🙄

If you had entered my teenage DS's bedroom this morning, you would definitely not want a candle based on that!

Parfum de the remains of last nights Chinese takeaway and smelly trainers, anyone?

PoppysAunt · 02/09/2026 11:04

AustenitesUnite · 02/09/2026 11:02

If you had entered my teenage DS's bedroom this morning, you would definitely not want a candle based on that!

Parfum de the remains of last nights Chinese takeaway and smelly trainers, anyone?

I remember the teenage years....not always fondly!

CoffeeCantata · 02/09/2026 11:05

Chrysanthemumsinpots · 02/09/2026 10:49

Yes, though this is hardly a random standard comprehensive.

But I would imagine it would be easier to achieve in an exclusive prep school. the parents will be wealthy and hopefully unimpressed by other wealthy parents and the staff will be used to dealing with well-known 'customers'. Plus, the whole school community is much smaller than a comp and easier to communicate with.

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