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BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/08/2026 19:14

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BasiliskStare · 30/08/2026 23:30

Or @IcedPurple he does know how the world works ( re Ravec) but he doesn't care. I think he said his security would be a drop in the ocean compared to their other costs. I don't know whether he is clueless or just monumentally entitled. @bluegreygreen , I do agree if the security itself were an issue he would now be behaving differently. It is increasingly obvious this is about status. He and his wife are very good at finding people much richer than they , and they are rich , to subsidise their life. Let them let Wace (allegedly) or someone else pay for their security if they don't want to do it themselves. It's nonsense to think they couldn't afford it themselves (imho) but if they continue their MO of ligging off rich friends - go right ahead. The silly season is over. We will not be subject to photos of VB in another bikini on a yacht , the 9 day wonder of HAM coming home is done now. However , I think if H continues this grudge match with Ravec he won't be in the MSM for the right reasons. It won't be a "fresh start".

Also 5th etc in line is irrelevant to all realistic intents and purposes. H isn't the spare any more , W - heir , G - W's heir C & L spares. He's the uncle of a spare. It puts me in mind of the Alan Partridge radio series where he interviews the Duchess of Stranraer and comes up with an increasingly bizarre set of circumstances under which she could inherit the throne.

Lunde · 31/08/2026 00:27

DaisyDooley · 30/08/2026 22:31

I don’t see why the situation is ‘untenable’
Beatrice & Eugenie had their PPO removed when they were 5th & 6th in line.
A & L will be safe at school - probably more safe than kids in state schools .
Then, when they are at home or out with their parents they will be protected by the same level of security that say the Beckhams would have, or Beyoncé would have in the UK.

Maybe if their parents really really loved the kids more than anything they would want to keep them safe by not announcing every movement to the press, having an opinion on everything-which they tell the press, taking endless legal cases on and not winding the British Public up by calling us all racists, telling us it’s too dangerous here for them then phoning the Home Secretary to demand Met Police Protection paid for by us.
I personally value my child more than money, attention, and being treated exactly same as my brother -but hey, that’s just me.
I’m not a jealous money grabbing attention whore.

I don’t think the HaMs even realise that being an armed officer in the police carries very little in extra wages and is totally and utterly voluntary.
We currently have 9 living ex prime ministers who have to be protected as well as the current incumbent & diplomats/cabinet ministers etc.
More than ever before.
If I was a police officer considering applying to be a PPO I wouldn’t do it for H&M. No way would l consider putting myself between a nutter/bullet and them.
The King, Queen , P&PoW? Yes. Because I respect them.
I genuinely think the MET would struggle to get people to agree to guard them.
It just would be horrendous- plus remember the stories of sending their PPO out to collect coffees in Canada , treating them like servants.
Im sure the police is like every other employer and staff talk -I bet there’s loads of stories about HaM which will put people off working for them.
(I know that you don’t get a choice when you are a PPO about who you work for but equally I expect you can say no, im not working for them. I’ll go back to CID thanks. )

Yes I remember the rumblings from the RPOs that were treated like lackies in Canada in 2020 with HAM sending them out to run errands.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/scotland-yard-officers-protecting-prince-harry-and-meghan-say-they-are-treated-like-servants/news-story/72f7c68968089c57331d71358619e046

There were also issues reported that HAM demanded 3 separate security details in Canada so the Harry, Meghan and Archie each had their own - which probably explains why there were 15 officers in Canada at any one time

Lunde · 31/08/2026 00:31

Interesting snippet on the Neal Sean podcast that popped up on my Youtube - he has a very good source that says that HAM's longtime nanny refused to relocate to the UK.

If it's true - it means more upheaval for Archie and Lily in this sudden move.

Ratherhaveacupofteaandabiscuit · 31/08/2026 00:37

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 22:19

He really is a snivelling little shit.

Also this from a 'source'.

."But one would imagine he is as concerned as anyone that his son – and, in particular, his grandchildren – are not receiving any form of police protection despite being fifth, sixth and seventh in line to the throne. The situation is untenable.”

Why?

Unless you're in direct line, which Harry and his family are not, you don't get protection. He lived safely in California without it for years didn't he?

And yet again, if this is so important to him why the hell didn't he get it sorted before uprooting his entire family? He's essentially saying that he knowingly brought them to a situation he considers unsafe. That's on him. Not the security services.

Yet another reason to remove him and his children from the line of succession.

Comments like this make it essential.

BasiliskStare · 31/08/2026 00:57

It seems to me if H wants to being his family over so the children can have a private education ( by which I mean not in the news rather than fee paying ) he's really fallen at the first hurdle by leaking things about Ravec and What He Wants. I don't believe for a moment any responsible MSM will leak the name of the school. But H could help himself by just lying low for a while and stop trying to throw his increasingly less important weight about.

Ravec will decide what they decide. To paraphrase @AutumnCrowOnTheMold from a previous post " ' untenable' my feckin' arse". 😂

Lifestooshort71 · 31/08/2026 01:23

Lunde · 31/08/2026 00:31

Interesting snippet on the Neal Sean podcast that popped up on my Youtube - he has a very good source that says that HAM's longtime nanny refused to relocate to the UK.

If it's true - it means more upheaval for Archie and Lily in this sudden move.

If HAM want the HAMlets to have the 'right' accent and behaviours then surely their Nanny shouldn't be American?

BemusedAmerican · 31/08/2026 02:22

I remember when I heard about Canada thinking "the Tim Hortons in NYC sell beans. Why can't HAM buy a coffee grinder, coffee maker, and espresso machine and make their own coffee?"

They survived 6 years in the US, where the world seems to think everyone walks around packing guns. Nothing happened to them even though they pissed off we Americans.

Lownie should really delve into the HAM/Fergie connection if it is true they all met up. It is thought- provoking.

Recklessismymiddlename · 31/08/2026 04:55

He is an entitled so and so. I suspect he was always entitled but kept under control. Now married to Meghan, who appears just an entitled it’s been further unleashed.

Oneatatimegently · 31/08/2026 05:15

AcrossthePond55 · 30/08/2026 16:58

As far as HAM and 'security' I'm going to hark back to my PP on 'perks and status' when it comes to expecting or demanding freebies.

It's the same thing.

Harry wants paid for security because he believes that is what he is due as a 'Son of the Monarch'. For him is it proof of his status-based-on-birth as, not simply a member of the RF, but specifically as Charles' son. I'd also throw in a bit of sibling envy too. He truly can't see the valid difference in what W&C and their children get for their security as the line of direct succession vs HAM and his children as, well, as the 'spare' & his family, and a non-working spare & wife as well. All he sees is that what W has, he should have also. I'm sure M abets him in this thinking, too.

For Meghan, once again it's the Hollywood mindset. The bigger the celebrity the better the security. And for true A-list Hollywood Elite, that security is usually paid for by others (a studio, a record company, a talent agency) who want their 'presence' and reputation to boost their own reputations and thus garner more A-list clients. Only B-listers (and lower) actually pay for their own security, usually to try to 'fake it til they make it' and get the 'perk' of paid for security. So for M, having 'paid for security' is to her a marker of status as an A-list celebrity. And we all know that she considers herself A-list, even if the wider world and those whose envy she covets, do not.

As far as I'm concerned their quest for what they believe is due them will never end be it freebies, paid for security, special treatment at schools, or to cut the line at Alton Towers.

How sad it is to be forever unhappy and angry like that. We all of us probably feel we 'deserve' more or 'better' than we have in one way or another. But we generally accept the truth of our lives and live happily with it. Too bad they can't do the same. I just hope they don't 'poison' their children's minds with their same mindset.

How can their children help but be poisoned?

NautilusLionfish · 31/08/2026 06:22

DaisyDooley · 30/08/2026 22:40

I agree.
It’s like giving into a blackmailer -they always want more and more.
He is a horrible human being.

He is not a horrible human being.spoilt, yes but no more than any other royal. Entitled? Sure. But again, no more than any other royal.
It would be sad and shocking if he or a member of his family was attacked and worse killed.
Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

He does luck self awareness and them both are so out of touch its unreal - as shown by:We didn't have jobs, so we were just not going to come and see this house. It wasn't possible. It's like when I was younger and you're window shopping – it's like 'I don't want to go and look at all the things that I can't afford, that doesn't feel good'
While purchasing a $14.6 m house with 9 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms (why?) and a granny cottage.
Spoilt, out of touch, but not horrible human

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/08/2026 07:31

I do wonder what he is going to fill his days with. He always has the September Wellchild and Diana things but apart from those the only other charity he has is Scotty's IIRC. He can do some things for Invictus and whatever they pay him for in Better Up but it doesn't seem much.

Silly season is over media, it's time for the grown ups to take over the headlines. Let's leave the Sussexes to the celebrity sidebar.

DaisyDooley · 31/08/2026 07:33

NautilusLionfish · 31/08/2026 06:22

He is not a horrible human being.spoilt, yes but no more than any other royal. Entitled? Sure. But again, no more than any other royal.
It would be sad and shocking if he or a member of his family was attacked and worse killed.
Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

He does luck self awareness and them both are so out of touch its unreal - as shown by:We didn't have jobs, so we were just not going to come and see this house. It wasn't possible. It's like when I was younger and you're window shopping – it's like 'I don't want to go and look at all the things that I can't afford, that doesn't feel good'
While purchasing a $14.6 m house with 9 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms (why?) and a granny cottage.
Spoilt, out of touch, but not horrible human

That’s your opinion.

Mine is that he is a horrible human.
Disloyalty and betrayal ,of the family that have given him so much.
Terrible pain and stress inflicted on two old dying people he purported to love,
Betrayal of his brother because of childish jealousy. ,

Entitled? Sure. But no more than any other royal
I disagree with you vehemently on this too.
Are you really trying to say that Anne & Edward are as entitled as he is?
Get real. Stop with the utter bullshit.

He’s so horrible and stupid that he’s letting his and his wife’s greed and anger that they are not as important as the Prince and Princess of Wales now start to affect their kids .
Horrible, entitled, selfish and greedy humans.
There - I’ve revised it.

FenellaFeldman · 31/08/2026 07:36

NautilusLionfish · 31/08/2026 06:22

He is not a horrible human being.spoilt, yes but no more than any other royal. Entitled? Sure. But again, no more than any other royal.
It would be sad and shocking if he or a member of his family was attacked and worse killed.
Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

He does luck self awareness and them both are so out of touch its unreal - as shown by:We didn't have jobs, so we were just not going to come and see this house. It wasn't possible. It's like when I was younger and you're window shopping – it's like 'I don't want to go and look at all the things that I can't afford, that doesn't feel good'
While purchasing a $14.6 m house with 9 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms (why?) and a granny cottage.
Spoilt, out of touch, but not horrible human

He's far more entitled than other members of the RF.
Demonstrably so.
He gets the security which is appropriate for his situation. What he wants is the security for an IPP, which he isn't.
Security is all managed at a professional level and by people far more intelligent and informed than him.

Mylovelygreendress · 31/08/2026 07:40

Lifestooshort71 · 31/08/2026 01:23

If HAM want the HAMlets to have the 'right' accent and behaviours then surely their Nanny shouldn't be American?

Their new nanny/ nannies will have to be a Norland Nanny as that is what the Wales DC have .

CoffeeCantata · 31/08/2026 07:54

DaisyDooley · 31/08/2026 07:33

That’s your opinion.

Mine is that he is a horrible human.
Disloyalty and betrayal ,of the family that have given him so much.
Terrible pain and stress inflicted on two old dying people he purported to love,
Betrayal of his brother because of childish jealousy. ,

Entitled? Sure. But no more than any other royal
I disagree with you vehemently on this too.
Are you really trying to say that Anne & Edward are as entitled as he is?
Get real. Stop with the utter bullshit.

He’s so horrible and stupid that he’s letting his and his wife’s greed and anger that they are not as important as the Prince and Princess of Wales now start to affect their kids .
Horrible, entitled, selfish and greedy humans.
There - I’ve revised it.

You've put it perfectly. I'm with you 100%. They are horrible, horrible people.

Why don't people see this? Some are just wilfully blind to the facts. There was a pp on the RF board (maybe not on this thread...) asking, quiite genuinely, that while they'd read that Meghan had annoyed Catherine about the bridesmaids' dresses, what else had the HAMs done to make the RF and others dislike thems so much.

I suppose there'll be some pps who don't know the full horror - it's now 6 years ago and if you were very young then and not following the news..OK.

twatwrangler · 31/08/2026 08:02

He cocking is a horrible human.

He has shown us that enough times.

I don’t know any nice people who make their horses bleed.

Just one example. Daisy doo gave plenty more.

heatdome · 31/08/2026 08:34

Lunde · 31/08/2026 00:31

Interesting snippet on the Neal Sean podcast that popped up on my Youtube - he has a very good source that says that HAM's longtime nanny refused to relocate to the UK.

If it's true - it means more upheaval for Archie and Lily in this sudden move.

Whereas Alison Boshoff says she’s the only one of their staff making the move. I’m sure these people just make this stuff up most of the time! And very occasionally get some actual intel that makes them look in the know.

Mylovelygreendress · 31/08/2026 09:06

I agree with @DaisyDooley

Recklessismymiddlename · 31/08/2026 09:11

CoffeeCantata · 31/08/2026 07:54

You've put it perfectly. I'm with you 100%. They are horrible, horrible people.

Why don't people see this? Some are just wilfully blind to the facts. There was a pp on the RF board (maybe not on this thread...) asking, quiite genuinely, that while they'd read that Meghan had annoyed Catherine about the bridesmaids' dresses, what else had the HAMs done to make the RF and others dislike thems so much.

I suppose there'll be some pps who don't know the full horror - it's now 6 years ago and if you were very young then and not following the news..OK.

But there are some like my mother 😬 🙄 who point blank refuse to see and believe it’s all the evil royal family’s, fault even though, you can explain till you are blue in the face. I’d blame dementia, but the woman is as Sharp as a tack.

IcedPurple · 31/08/2026 09:12

NautilusLionfish · 31/08/2026 06:22

He is not a horrible human being.spoilt, yes but no more than any other royal. Entitled? Sure. But again, no more than any other royal.
It would be sad and shocking if he or a member of his family was attacked and worse killed.
Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

He does luck self awareness and them both are so out of touch its unreal - as shown by:We didn't have jobs, so we were just not going to come and see this house. It wasn't possible. It's like when I was younger and you're window shopping – it's like 'I don't want to go and look at all the things that I can't afford, that doesn't feel good'
While purchasing a $14.6 m house with 9 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms (why?) and a granny cottage.
Spoilt, out of touch, but not horrible human

Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

Have you any idea of the resources and expense involved in having highly trained specialist police officers guard 4 people around the clock? Indefinitely? Close personal protection is extremely expensive and resource heavy, which is why only a handful of individuals qualify for it. It's not handed out as some sort of game with a petulant prince.

You either qualify for close personal protection or you don't. The 5th in line and his flower sprinkle selling wife do not.

Spoilt, out of touch, but not horrible human

I disagree. There is plenty of evidence that he is indeed a most unpleasant individual.

KilkennyCats · 31/08/2026 09:17

Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

Give him whatever he demands to rob him of the power to get whatever he demands…
Not sure I follow?

Odeline · 31/08/2026 09:19

heatdome · 31/08/2026 08:34

Whereas Alison Boshoff says she’s the only one of their staff making the move. I’m sure these people just make this stuff up most of the time! And very occasionally get some actual intel that makes them look in the know.

I doubt they have just the one nanny - probs need about 4 on rotation to over evenings, weekends and overnights when both parents are off grifting.

IcedPurple · 31/08/2026 09:23

KilkennyCats · 31/08/2026 09:17

Give him the security and the next 2-3 demands and see what his next winge would be. That would truly show his character. It could also robe him of his power. The am hard done by power would no longer be his super power.

Give him whatever he demands to rob him of the power to get whatever he demands…
Not sure I follow?

And of course there is a whole rota of specialist police officers just hanging around playing video games, waiting to be called into service by the 5th in line.

HeirNspareBNB · 31/08/2026 09:50

Eton College Michaelmas Term starts next week which is not the same day as the prep school. There will definitely be a Wales photocall. I wish George well and I hope he gets his privacy and makes some wonderful new, loyal friends.

The Well Child Awards are the night before. Technically the dates don’t clash so there should be no conflict over the front pages?

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 31/08/2026 09:55

heatdome · 31/08/2026 08:34

Whereas Alison Boshoff says she’s the only one of their staff making the move. I’m sure these people just make this stuff up most of the time! And very occasionally get some actual intel that makes them look in the know.

I think the Sussex PR Machine is either putting out contradictory information deliberately, and/or H & M are leaking separately and mischievously because they don’t like each other very much, and/or Liam has lost control of what’s going out on WhatsApp and to whom.

And yes, various ‘royal reporters’ making up ‘sources’!

Meanwhile, the RF continues with Operation Grey Rock? (Hopefully.)

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