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BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/08/2026 19:14

Yet another new thread for more Sussex shenanigans!

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CoffeeCantata · 01/09/2026 08:57

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/09/2026 08:51

Developing good habits around money is how the rich avoid the rags to rags in three generations trap. I doubt Catherine thinks that giving the children pocket money makes them like everyone else, but it does help them understand in a small way the importance of living within your means, however large those means are. Of course it's particularly useful for members of the working royal family who are expected, by the public/ press, to behave as if they are the frugal middle class (tupperware, bbqs etc) whilst simultaneously wearing massive tiaras.

Of course - they are never going to need to worry about money, in the same way as the two princes sleeping rough for the homeless charity means that they know what homelessness is actually like. But it would have given them a bit of insight and empathy, you would hope, and made them think.

Similarly with money - just being given a limit would teach them something about responsibility - or even just the fact that things cost money, and don't magically appear!

The boy I mentioned had clearly not been over-indulged with material things and didn't turn his nose up at the 'paltry' prizes. And he was prepared to work for them!! All impressive to me.

Ratherhaveacupofteaandabiscuit · 01/09/2026 09:01

CoffeeCantata · 01/09/2026 08:57

Of course - they are never going to need to worry about money, in the same way as the two princes sleeping rough for the homeless charity means that they know what homelessness is actually like. But it would have given them a bit of insight and empathy, you would hope, and made them think.

Similarly with money - just being given a limit would teach them something about responsibility - or even just the fact that things cost money, and don't magically appear!

The boy I mentioned had clearly not been over-indulged with material things and didn't turn his nose up at the 'paltry' prizes. And he was prepared to work for them!! All impressive to me.

“Manners maketh man”

H&M would do well to reflect on this.

FenellaFeldman · 01/09/2026 09:02

It's not just about material things, it's good manners. Someone gives you something, no matter how small, you thank them.
That boy enjoyed the quiz and appreciated the prize. A wealthy family, but not an indulgent one.

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 01/09/2026 09:17

CoffeeCantata · 31/08/2026 15:14

Yes!

I can believe there are many difficult things about the RF

  • strange and regimented Christmases at Sandringham
  • some arrogant personalities (although one of those has been cancelled, as we know)
  • rather a lot of shooting and fishing etc, if that's not your cup of tea
  • and other things!

But one think I will never believe is that they are straight-forward, crude racists, for many reasons.

Prince Philip's so-called racist remarks were unfortunate - and some believe they were made partly to wind people up (not the other races!) - but I don't believe he was actually racist either. He was always deeply interested in and very respectful of indigenous peoples. More than once he expressed the view that modern Westerners were the crazy ones and that tribal people, for example, lived more authentic, valuable and less selfish and damaging lives.

Oh, please! I think MM is a difficult personality with possibly a personality disorder but let's not whitewash Prince Philips behaviour and comments.

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 09:40

AcrossthePond55 · 01/09/2026 01:26

Shall I break out a twin set and pearls? Or perhaps channel my inner Patsy from AbFab?

I prefer the latter.

Perhaps both ! Best to be on the safe side .😁

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/09/2026 09:41

CoffeeCantata · 01/09/2026 08:57

Of course - they are never going to need to worry about money, in the same way as the two princes sleeping rough for the homeless charity means that they know what homelessness is actually like. But it would have given them a bit of insight and empathy, you would hope, and made them think.

Similarly with money - just being given a limit would teach them something about responsibility - or even just the fact that things cost money, and don't magically appear!

The boy I mentioned had clearly not been over-indulged with material things and didn't turn his nose up at the 'paltry' prizes. And he was prepared to work for them!! All impressive to me.

Yes I agree

Starryfifty · 01/09/2026 09:41

Meg now claiming she can't do school run because of security. Odd as it has been claimed she never did it in Cali

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 09:44

Recklessismymiddlename · 01/09/2026 06:58

@jeffgoldblum sorry you’ve been unwell. Hope you’ll be feeling more yourself soon.

Think it’s obvious, that the Sussex supporters, are perplexed that they have moved over here and that the goalposts have changed.

Which means some of the messaging will also be changed, for a while, until the fans understand the lay of land so to speak.

What is clear however, is that not all is well in the Sussex world, otherwise they’d have stayed put in the US, where they were living their best lives, like loves young dream.

Many thanks reckless! ❤️

HoldMyWine · 01/09/2026 09:44

How do she know until she tries? Is anyone really that interested?

Justdancevance · 01/09/2026 09:44

All the drama all summer and Meghan’s IG followers have grown by by a small amount.

This PR strategy isn’t working. Her As ever followers are still small. She’s not going to shift large quantities of anything based on their current PR direction.

I don’t think they will get 24h security so will they stay or do a flounce back to montecito before Christmas with a new round of interviews.

I think Invictus can’t afford to pay for pseudo royal visits to countries so unless he gets UK security he’s grounded.

William flew an air ambulance, perhaps he should train for something like that and give back rather than just taking

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 09:45

justaquickquestionifyouplease · 01/09/2026 07:41

Is she over here to film The Gentleman then?

No that was more manifestation as per usual!

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 09:49

taylorandme · 01/09/2026 07:51

@jeffgoldblum I am only occasionally on royal threads but have been for years. I enjoyed reading the last couple of threads over copious amount of ice coffee as on annual leave. I did notice not seeing your name as in the past I have often liked your posts and wondered to myself why. Sorry to hear about recent events hope you are very much ok.

And yes I was told that many, not all, of the posters on these Harry & Meghan threads are conventional older ladies who are retired or don't work due to family money or a well-paid husband and who worship William and Kate.
😂🤔😂

Prime example of PR segmentation gone very wrong. Which beautifully and nearly concludes this thread, I suppose.

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That’s very kind Taylor , many thanks 🥰

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AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 01/09/2026 09:54

And yes I was told that many, not all, of the posters on these Harry & Meghan threads are conventional older ladies who are retired or don't work due to family money or a well-paid husband and who worship William and Kate. I thought that was maybe a sexist summary but hey

I am late to this party, but isn’t this interesting? For the above to be true, we are being asked to believe the following things simultaneously:

  1. that the poster of the above (or indeed any poster) talks in RL about the contents of the MN H&M threads;
  2. that the people to whom s/he talks have bothered to study these threads enough to form opinions on the demographics of those on the thread;
  3. that a demographic called ‘conventional older ladies’ exists (presumably across continents);
  4. that ‘who are retired or don't work due to family money or a well-paid husband’ is some sort of meaningful demographic measure;
  5. that ‘who worship William and Kate’ is a likely state of being for a sentient section of the international population;
  6. that any of the above is believable or reasonable.

Well, wearing my very active academic hat, I’d say firstly that this is a very piss-poor piece of goady piss-antism; and how fascinating it is to see the clumsy planting of feeble ‘attack lines’ from actual stans and PR gofers. Sociologically mildly fascinating. Thank you.

Starryfifty · 01/09/2026 09:55

Justdancevance · 01/09/2026 09:44

All the drama all summer and Meghan’s IG followers have grown by by a small amount.

This PR strategy isn’t working. Her As ever followers are still small. She’s not going to shift large quantities of anything based on their current PR direction.

I don’t think they will get 24h security so will they stay or do a flounce back to montecito before Christmas with a new round of interviews.

I think Invictus can’t afford to pay for pseudo royal visits to countries so unless he gets UK security he’s grounded.

William flew an air ambulance, perhaps he should train for something like that and give back rather than just taking

As Ever is a busted flush. It was never a success. It's a vanity project and nothing more. I think she's hoping royal adjacency will help but I don't think so.

I assumed they were worming their way back to get a role in the RF as, in all honesty, that's all they have left. They have proven they are not capable of anything else.

Spotify- busted. And called "F* grifters by boss.
Netflix - gone.
Archetypes - don't even recall
As Ever - busted flush

If h doesn't get his way regarding security, it's another tell all interview about racism, generational pain, RF want them dead etc....it's all they have left

Odeline · 01/09/2026 09:55

AustenitesUnite · 01/09/2026 08:18

I absolutely love this description of the Princess of Wales taking her eldest two on a shopping trip just before a new term ~

"During a stationery and toy shop visit in London, onlookers noted that Kate gave the children a strict budget. Both George and Charlotte had to use their own pocket money to pay for their chosen items, opting for fun additions like colored pencils and perfumed erasers"

I find this a very odd situation. Who were these eavesdroppers so close to K, G & C that they heard every word and then went running to the papers? Very intrusive. Also a 13 year old boy buying rubbers and pencils with his Mum? To me it’s either performative, intrusive or made up. Strange story.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 01/09/2026 09:58

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/09/2026 08:51

Developing good habits around money is how the rich avoid the rags to rags in three generations trap. I doubt Catherine thinks that giving the children pocket money makes them like everyone else, but it does help them understand in a small way the importance of living within your means, however large those means are. Of course it's particularly useful for members of the working royal family who are expected, by the public/ press, to behave as if they are the frugal middle class (tupperware, bbqs etc) whilst simultaneously wearing massive tiaras.

There was a thread a while back about a woman helping her daughter make a "budget" for university, which just meant writing down all her expenses and then giving her mum that number as a sum to be given monthly.

She absolutely didn't accept the suggestions that her daughter budgeting meant CHOOSING what she could afford from a set amount that she couldn't change.

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 10:00

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 01/09/2026 09:54

And yes I was told that many, not all, of the posters on these Harry & Meghan threads are conventional older ladies who are retired or don't work due to family money or a well-paid husband and who worship William and Kate. I thought that was maybe a sexist summary but hey

I am late to this party, but isn’t this interesting? For the above to be true, we are being asked to believe the following things simultaneously:

  1. that the poster of the above (or indeed any poster) talks in RL about the contents of the MN H&M threads;
  2. that the people to whom s/he talks have bothered to study these threads enough to form opinions on the demographics of those on the thread;
  3. that a demographic called ‘conventional older ladies’ exists (presumably across continents);
  4. that ‘who are retired or don't work due to family money or a well-paid husband’ is some sort of meaningful demographic measure;
  5. that ‘who worship William and Kate’ is a likely state of being for a sentient section of the international population;
  6. that any of the above is believable or reasonable.

Well, wearing my very active academic hat, I’d say firstly that this is a very piss-poor piece of goady piss-antism; and how fascinating it is to see the clumsy planting of feeble ‘attack lines’ from actual stans and PR gofers. Sociologically mildly fascinating. Thank you.

Couldn’t put it any better autumn ! , however again I will point out there is a section on Reddit that exists just to discuss mn and it’s posters! , and yes that is apparently the opinion of some, a few of us do get a personal mention, which is of course fabulous as usual.

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 01/09/2026 10:02

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 10:00

Couldn’t put it any better autumn ! , however again I will point out there is a section on Reddit that exists just to discuss mn and it’s posters! , and yes that is apparently the opinion of some, a few of us do get a personal mention, which is of course fabulous as usual.

So they bother to discuss us, but get it all wrong??

AustenitesUnite · 01/09/2026 10:02

Odeline · 01/09/2026 09:55

I find this a very odd situation. Who were these eavesdroppers so close to K, G & C that they heard every word and then went running to the papers? Very intrusive. Also a 13 year old boy buying rubbers and pencils with his Mum? To me it’s either performative, intrusive or made up. Strange story.

Sorry, I should have made it clear that this was an old story. It happened when W&C were still living in KP and C used to take the children shopping in Kensington High Street. As Louis wasn't with them I would imagine George & Charlotte were attending school and Louis wan't, which gives an indication of how young they are

I often overhear conversations in shops. On a busy day everyone is at close quarters, trying to look at the same things. I can't explain why people pass these stories onto the press but I thought it was lovely and says a lot about how they are being brought up

StaySpicy · 01/09/2026 10:03

Odeline · 01/09/2026 09:55

I find this a very odd situation. Who were these eavesdroppers so close to K, G & C that they heard every word and then went running to the papers? Very intrusive. Also a 13 year old boy buying rubbers and pencils with his Mum? To me it’s either performative, intrusive or made up. Strange story.

It says "a new term" so could have been some years ago when George was younger.

CoffeeCantata · 01/09/2026 10:10

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 01/09/2026 09:17

Oh, please! I think MM is a difficult personality with possibly a personality disorder but let's not whitewash Prince Philips behaviour and comments.

Must get this in before this thread closes!

No - I wasn't whitewashing PP's remarks - they are/were unacceptable.

All I was saying was that I don't believe he was a crude racist. It was much more nuanced than that - he had massive respect for tribal people (could give loads of egs, but won't bore you here!) and a great interest in them.

I'm sure he was a man of his time with the attitudes of 'othering' and condescension to other ethnic groups, for sure. I think it was at that level - othering, rather than vicious racism. Not OK, but much more socially acceptable in the mid-late 20th century.

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2026 10:12

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 01/09/2026 10:02

So they bother to discuss us, but get it all wrong??

Oh yes….i am in particular …..really Jeff goldblum …actually a man ….Camilla….another unnamed royal…..which is hilarious because I’m actually just a middle aged woman who likes to discuss the shenanigans with other like minded ladies ….not a mastermind of chaos at all! 🤣

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 01/09/2026 10:14

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 01/09/2026 10:02

So they bother to discuss us, but get it all wrong??

Just to add - have the Redditors twigged yet that this place is heaving with journalists and YouTube ‘royal reporters’?! Grin

CoffeeCantata · 01/09/2026 10:15

Starryfifty · 01/09/2026 09:41

Meg now claiming she can't do school run because of security. Odd as it has been claimed she never did it in Cali

I'd love to call her bluff and suggest she tries, though. She might be pleasantly surprised, or maybe horrified, to discover that there's no fuss at all!

I think I know which school has been indicated and I'd guess the parents there are the most discreet and unimpressed by celebs you could imagine.

And if press turned up I think the school would have a good case to send them away in these days of increased safeguarding and awareness of the damage it can do to children. Any press invading the school would immediately look very, very bad.

FenellaFeldman · 01/09/2026 10:16

CoffeeCantata · 01/09/2026 10:15

I'd love to call her bluff and suggest she tries, though. She might be pleasantly surprised, or maybe horrified, to discover that there's no fuss at all!

I think I know which school has been indicated and I'd guess the parents there are the most discreet and unimpressed by celebs you could imagine.

And if press turned up I think the school would have a good case to send them away in these days of increased safeguarding and awareness of the damage it can do to children. Any press invading the school would immediately look very, very bad.

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