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BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/08/2026 19:14

Yet another new thread for more Sussex shenanigans!

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Recklessismymiddlename · 30/08/2026 21:48

@DaisyDooley inspired 👏👏👏

Cars4Gov · 30/08/2026 21:49

However I do think the Queen and Prince Charles should have made far more effort. They should have learned about the family H was marrying into

Wasn't the dog bowl fight over H ignoring William who was trying to warn him to slow down? I imagine QE2 would have thought if anyone would get through to him PW was the most likely..however broken necklace and dog bowl later..

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:01

bluegreygreen · 30/08/2026 21:44

It's behind a paywall - can you (or someone) archive it, please?

It’s not archiving. Here is the text.

The Duke of Sussex gave the Home Office security committee less than two weeks’ notice that he was moving his family back to Britain amid fears the news would leak.

The Duke’s team did not give the customary 28 days’ notice to Ravec, the body responsible for assessing royal and VIP security, of his full plans to move the Duchess, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet to his homeland.... Instead, the committee was given notice that the Duke would be travelling to the UK for an extended period of engagements, understood to include the WellChild Awards, which he usually attends in September and builds a programme around.
The Home Office was informed of the full move as soon as was “practicably possible”, it is understood, in light of concerns about leaks, a late confirmation of the children’s school places and the Duke’s wish to inform his father about the decision first.

The King was told officially on Sunday, Aug 16, and The Telegraph broke the story of the move on Aug 19. The family landed in the UK on Thursday, Aug 26.
Other sources familiar with workings of the committee have been left frustrated by the suggestion Ravec had not considered the Sussexes’ case thoroughly, or reached the correct conclusions about security provision in light of the information they have been given.

The Duke’s annual charity trip, one source suggested, had provided temporary “cover” for the transatlantic move, but meant that Ravec could not plan for the true extent of their movements in Britain.

A source close to the Sussexes dismissed the relevance of exact timescales, saying the committee had been “kicking the can down the road for the last seven years”.....“We have always adhered to the rules they set, even as the goalposts have moved along the way,” they said. “Playing by those rules has never made any difference....Despite the facade of a proper process, they have never shown any real intention of doing anything other than maintaining the status quo...."Geography was the backbone of Ravec’s argument for withdrawing enhanced protective security in 2020...."The couple’s decision not to live in the UK was treated as a significant factor in that decision...."That barrier has now been removed, and an obvious off-ramp exists for the committee to do the sensible thing: protect the King’s son and grandchildren.”
School places for Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet were not finalised until August, it is understood.

A source familiar with the situation added: “Obviously, the King is in an impossible position...."He cannot intervene, or be seen to apply pressure, in a way that could be construed as constitutionally overstepping...."But one would imagine he is as concerned as anyone that his son – and, in particular, his grandchildren – are not receiving any form of police protection despite being fifth, sixth and seventh in line to the throne. The situation is untenable.”

The Home Office and Cabinet Office declined to comment....Buckingham Palace never comments on security issues.

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:08

He is trying to back them into a corner, judging by this comment tax payer funded security is the only reason for the return to the UK

"Geography was the backbone of Ravec’s argument for withdrawing enhanced protective security in 2020...."The couple’s decision not to live in the UK was treated as a significant factor in that decision...."That barrier has now been removed, and an obvious off-ramp exists for the committee to do the sensible thing: protect the King’s son and grandchildren.”

Mylovelygreendress · 30/08/2026 22:08

Lunde · 30/08/2026 21:10

The Getty reference is to Gordon Getty as there were strong rumours that Meghan may have been involved with him a couple of years ago, shortly after his wife of 55 years died (nobody knows if it was money or more) - meetings in hotels/sighted having lunch - until his children intervened.

However this blind is about HAM's sudden close relationship with the billionaire Waces as they visited Ian Wace's ultra private island back in July when they visited the UK and it is rumoured that he is lending them a house in the UK.

Ian Wace's current wife (his 3rd) - former model Saffron Aldridge - has Epstein connections and features in the black book. She also has strong Soho House connections. She is apparently a long time friend of Meghan's.

Ian Wace's first wife and children died tragically in a car crash. They had spent the weekend in Devon and were driving back to London in 2 cars - he was in the first car and his wife and their two very young children were in the car behind. Wace was the witness and said he looked in the rear view mirror and saw his wife suddenly swerve head on into a lorry.

Ian Wace not David Wace . Apologies , I was talking to someone called David just before I posted .
I am old !

thenightsky · 30/08/2026 22:11

She is apparently a long time friend of Meghan's

Meghan has long time friends?? I'm shocked.

Mylovelygreendress · 30/08/2026 22:11

Another Blind . Believe or not .

PR disasters thread 32
thenightsky · 30/08/2026 22:12

Mylovelygreendress · 30/08/2026 22:11

Another Blind . Believe or not .

Wow. If that is true.

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 22:15

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:08

He is trying to back them into a corner, judging by this comment tax payer funded security is the only reason for the return to the UK

"Geography was the backbone of Ravec’s argument for withdrawing enhanced protective security in 2020...."The couple’s decision not to live in the UK was treated as a significant factor in that decision...."That barrier has now been removed, and an obvious off-ramp exists for the committee to do the sensible thing: protect the King’s son and grandchildren.”

He will continue to back them into a corner. This is his next dragon slaying nonsense. If he doesn't get it, he will continue push and push for it unfortunately

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:18

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 22:15

He will continue to back them into a corner. This is his next dragon slaying nonsense. If he doesn't get it, he will continue push and push for it unfortunately

I agree, and using his kids now to further add emotional pressure. So much for his wife and children being unsafe in the UK.

BasiliskStare · 30/08/2026 22:19

Re the Telegraph article - Harry just can't let this go can he - "Despite the facade of a proper process,... " does that come from the same stable as "whitewash" establishment stitch up"

Ravec will decide. But if it is known , if he gets taxpayer funded security , he might like to think that these kind of statements ( even through sources ) may mean what he gains financially he will lose in popularity. I'm increasingly thinking he wants the status of Govt security. He doesn't merit it compared to any other member of the WRF. PA was the Queen's daughter , her children were the Queen's grandchildren. H can afford private security I am sure. And with a life lived quietly I'd bet that's more than enough.

Imagine accusing an independent committee overseen by the Home Office of kicking a can down the road. Is he clueless about what else they have to deal with. Badly done Harry.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 22:19

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:08

He is trying to back them into a corner, judging by this comment tax payer funded security is the only reason for the return to the UK

"Geography was the backbone of Ravec’s argument for withdrawing enhanced protective security in 2020...."The couple’s decision not to live in the UK was treated as a significant factor in that decision...."That barrier has now been removed, and an obvious off-ramp exists for the committee to do the sensible thing: protect the King’s son and grandchildren.”

He really is a snivelling little shit.

Also this from a 'source'.

."But one would imagine he is as concerned as anyone that his son – and, in particular, his grandchildren – are not receiving any form of police protection despite being fifth, sixth and seventh in line to the throne. The situation is untenable.”

Why?

Unless you're in direct line, which Harry and his family are not, you don't get protection. He lived safely in California without it for years didn't he?

And yet again, if this is so important to him why the hell didn't he get it sorted before uprooting his entire family? He's essentially saying that he knowingly brought them to a situation he considers unsafe. That's on him. Not the security services.

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 22:24

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 22:19

He really is a snivelling little shit.

Also this from a 'source'.

."But one would imagine he is as concerned as anyone that his son – and, in particular, his grandchildren – are not receiving any form of police protection despite being fifth, sixth and seventh in line to the throne. The situation is untenable.”

Why?

Unless you're in direct line, which Harry and his family are not, you don't get protection. He lived safely in California without it for years didn't he?

And yet again, if this is so important to him why the hell didn't he get it sorted before uprooting his entire family? He's essentially saying that he knowingly brought them to a situation he considers unsafe. That's on him. Not the security services.

And he'll blame "establishment stitch up, racism, William, etc being his kids aren't safe. Not taking an ounce of responsibility. He's an entitled prick

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 30/08/2026 22:24

It was/is thought there was a leak about H going out with M in 2016 originating from inside the ‘House of York’ as was. HaM were probably closer to Eugenie and then Sarah than the other two.

This leak set off the tabloids’ curiosity about M, so journalists in the UK and the US looked for stories. They will have also asked the original leak source for any extra tips.

And the ‘Compton’ story appeared, written in the Mail’s LA office by British journalist Ruth Styles. The rest, as they say, is hysteria. The racism angle Harry was immediately pushing at M’s behest made M pretty teflon-coated at that time of BLM/CRT.

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:26

He already has enhanced security, doesn’t he get a direct line telephone number to a liaison officer ? the rest of us private citizens have to call 999.

BasiliskStare · 30/08/2026 22:28

@IcedPurple "And yet again, if this is so important to him why the hell didn't he get it sorted before uprooting his entire family? He's essentially saying that he knowingly brought them to a situation he considers unsafe. That's on him. Not the security services." If I agreed to the moon and back , I couldn't agree more with you on this. 👏

bluegreygreen · 30/08/2026 22:28

I'm increasingly thinking he wants the status of Govt security.

It's always been a question of status, @BasiliskStare. If it was actually an issue of security his behaviour would be different.

(I probably should say - in my opinion.)

Thedom · 30/08/2026 22:30

And why is he changing the narrative about why tax payer funded security was withdrawn, it was withdrawn because he is no longer a working royal, the geography was less to do with it than him quitting the RF.

DaisyDooley · 30/08/2026 22:31

I don’t see why the situation is ‘untenable’
Beatrice & Eugenie had their PPO removed when they were 5th & 6th in line.
A & L will be safe at school - probably more safe than kids in state schools .
Then, when they are at home or out with their parents they will be protected by the same level of security that say the Beckhams would have, or Beyoncé would have in the UK.

Maybe if their parents really really loved the kids more than anything they would want to keep them safe by not announcing every movement to the press, having an opinion on everything-which they tell the press, taking endless legal cases on and not winding the British Public up by calling us all racists, telling us it’s too dangerous here for them then phoning the Home Secretary to demand Met Police Protection paid for by us.
I personally value my child more than money, attention, and being treated exactly same as my brother -but hey, that’s just me.
I’m not a jealous money grabbing attention whore.

I don’t think the HaMs even realise that being an armed officer in the police carries very little in extra wages and is totally and utterly voluntary.
We currently have 9 living ex prime ministers who have to be protected as well as the current incumbent & diplomats/cabinet ministers etc.
More than ever before.
If I was a police officer considering applying to be a PPO I wouldn’t do it for H&M. No way would l consider putting myself between a nutter/bullet and them.
The King, Queen , P&PoW? Yes. Because I respect them.
I genuinely think the MET would struggle to get people to agree to guard them.
It just would be horrendous- plus remember the stories of sending their PPO out to collect coffees in Canada , treating them like servants.
Im sure the police is like every other employer and staff talk -I bet there’s loads of stories about HaM which will put people off working for them.
(I know that you don’t get a choice when you are a PPO about who you work for but equally I expect you can say no, im not working for them. I’ll go back to CID thanks. )

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 22:33

BasiliskStare · 30/08/2026 22:19

Re the Telegraph article - Harry just can't let this go can he - "Despite the facade of a proper process,... " does that come from the same stable as "whitewash" establishment stitch up"

Ravec will decide. But if it is known , if he gets taxpayer funded security , he might like to think that these kind of statements ( even through sources ) may mean what he gains financially he will lose in popularity. I'm increasingly thinking he wants the status of Govt security. He doesn't merit it compared to any other member of the WRF. PA was the Queen's daughter , her children were the Queen's grandchildren. H can afford private security I am sure. And with a life lived quietly I'd bet that's more than enough.

Imagine accusing an independent committee overseen by the Home Office of kicking a can down the road. Is he clueless about what else they have to deal with. Badly done Harry.

Imagine accusing an independent committee overseen by the Home Office of kicking a can down the road. Is he clueless about what else they have to deal with. Badly done Harry.

In answer to your question, yes he is clueless. He has no clue how the real world works. And he seems to think government departments have nothing to do other than pander to his every whim. Puerile little brat.

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 22:38

I really really hope he doesn't get his way. Because it will not end there.

DaisyDooley · 30/08/2026 22:40

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 22:38

I really really hope he doesn't get his way. Because it will not end there.

I agree.
It’s like giving into a blackmailer -they always want more and more.
He is a horrible human being.

IAmATorturedPoet · 30/08/2026 22:48

What an imbecile.

What type of parent uses their own children as pawns in their own ongoing tantrum. Uprooting them from familiar surroundings and into a new country, a new home and new school and on just two weeks notice, just so he can manipulate people into giving him what he wants.

How dense do you have to be to still not get it.

He is so consumed by this issue with RAVEC he is completely blind to anything else.

I’d like him to just go back to the USA. I don’t want or need to hear anymore of his entitled winging. He’s a moron.

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 30/08/2026 22:50

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 30/08/2026 22:24

It was/is thought there was a leak about H going out with M in 2016 originating from inside the ‘House of York’ as was. HaM were probably closer to Eugenie and then Sarah than the other two.

This leak set off the tabloids’ curiosity about M, so journalists in the UK and the US looked for stories. They will have also asked the original leak source for any extra tips.

And the ‘Compton’ story appeared, written in the Mail’s LA office by British journalist Ruth Styles. The rest, as they say, is hysteria. The racism angle Harry was immediately pushing at M’s behest made M pretty teflon-coated at that time of BLM/CRT.

That was a reply to @KatherineParr upthread - I forgot to quote her post, sorry!

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 23:23

IAmATorturedPoet · 30/08/2026 22:48

What an imbecile.

What type of parent uses their own children as pawns in their own ongoing tantrum. Uprooting them from familiar surroundings and into a new country, a new home and new school and on just two weeks notice, just so he can manipulate people into giving him what he wants.

How dense do you have to be to still not get it.

He is so consumed by this issue with RAVEC he is completely blind to anything else.

I’d like him to just go back to the USA. I don’t want or need to hear anymore of his entitled winging. He’s a moron.

He's vile and he's going to be a constant sore for many, many years to come unfortunately

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