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BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/08/2026 19:14

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Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 13:26

Wonder why the narrative around an apology from HAM has changed to demanding an apology from William and C ?

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 30/08/2026 13:29

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 13:18

Yes, I don't know why she's going on about it. I think it's just a stupid rumour.

I used to rate Norman Baker as an investigative writer delving into the byzantine royal financial set-up and history. Still do, mostly.

But this visceral loathing of William that he seems to have developed is odd.

Baker’s the one who started the ‘William is lazy’ trope in the Mail, for which he, Baker, was paid as a ‘royal expert’. His assessment is based on a ridiculously incomplete database, with a conclusion that Wolfgang Pauli would have dismissed as ‘not even wrong’.

Norman Baker is good pals with Sir Simon Hughes.

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 13:30

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 30/08/2026 13:29

I used to rate Norman Baker as an investigative writer delving into the byzantine royal financial set-up and history. Still do, mostly.

But this visceral loathing of William that he seems to have developed is odd.

Baker’s the one who started the ‘William is lazy’ trope in the Mail, for which he, Baker, was paid as a ‘royal expert’. His assessment is based on a ridiculously incomplete database, with a conclusion that Wolfgang Pauli would have dismissed as ‘not even wrong’.

Norman Baker is good pals with Sir Simon Hughes.

That's interesting, thank you.
I did wonder the origin.

Thedom · 30/08/2026 13:32

MaturingCheeseball · 30/08/2026 12:59

@Thedom Harry wants to live his best life here - the life of an idle rich hooray Henry - polo, shooting, japes with old chums, racketing around at house parties… Living in France he’d be in the same position as in Montecito - lonely. He is, however, a middle-aged man, not Bertie Wooster stealing policemen’s helmets.

I agree, and I do think that just proves his claims about his security concerns are surely invented, because what parent would put their children’s lives at risk to prioritize and cater to their own wants and needs. Unless, of course, he is totally so self absorbed in his own narcissistic needs, his kids don’t really matter to him in the bigger picture.

He is serving his kids up on a silver platter as he stoops to any low to coerce and blackmail the UK government into giving him what he wants.

twatwrangler · 30/08/2026 13:37

Maybe that is exactly what Harry needs, an independent, empathetic and active listener to reassure him.

I always feel that babying someone only serves to encourage and validate their behaviour.

He would be better served to be told to wind his neck in and given the reasons why mostly everyone thinks he is an entitled, mantrumming cock.

AustenitesUnite · 30/08/2026 13:37

IIRC Prince Harry had to pay back the full costs of the renovations on Frogmore House because there were issues surrounding it being taxpayers money and H&M only lived there for 5 minutes before their Freedom Flight

It feels as though they learned nothing from this experience i.e. that British taxpayers do not wish to fund people who don't put anything worthwhile back into their society

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 13:39

twatwrangler · 30/08/2026 13:37

Maybe that is exactly what Harry needs, an independent, empathetic and active listener to reassure him.

I always feel that babying someone only serves to encourage and validate their behaviour.

He would be better served to be told to wind his neck in and given the reasons why mostly everyone thinks he is an entitled, mantrumming cock.

😂😂😂
In a nutshell! How do we deal with a spoilt, demanding, petulant, greedy middle aged man?
Let's pay for a police officer to sit and listen to his complaints! 😂

My2cents1975 · 30/08/2026 13:42

Starryfifty · 30/08/2026 13:26

Wonder why the narrative around an apology from HAM has changed to demanding an apology from William and C ?

I suspect it is a case of the fox and the sour grapes.

You're going to grey rock me??? Fine, I demand an apology and that is why we are not speaking, nothing to do with your grey-rocking!!!

bluegreygreen · 30/08/2026 13:45

AutumnCrowOnTheMold · 30/08/2026 13:29

I used to rate Norman Baker as an investigative writer delving into the byzantine royal financial set-up and history. Still do, mostly.

But this visceral loathing of William that he seems to have developed is odd.

Baker’s the one who started the ‘William is lazy’ trope in the Mail, for which he, Baker, was paid as a ‘royal expert’. His assessment is based on a ridiculously incomplete database, with a conclusion that Wolfgang Pauli would have dismissed as ‘not even wrong’.

Norman Baker is good pals with Sir Simon Hughes.

I assume the aim is to attack the part of the monarchy currently seen as strongest, @AutumnCrowOnTheMold

Bigcat25 · 30/08/2026 13:46

shockthemonkey · 30/08/2026 11:28

Wow, so their NDN left them a bottle of wine as a welcome gift and the next day it was returned to her unopened??? There had to be a reason for that…

Probably it didn't fit into their security policy (worried about poison perhaps.) Still it's incredibly rude.

BasiliskStare · 30/08/2026 13:57

Bigcat25 · 30/08/2026 13:46

Probably it didn't fit into their security policy (worried about poison perhaps.) Still it's incredibly rude.

However , if you had just moved in , would it not have been better to take the chance that it was a well meaning neighbour. Pour the wine down the sink , stick it straight in the bin in a lead lined box , whatever , but instead of returning it , send a note of thanks instead. Sometimes being nice to everyone , not just those who can do something for you , pays dividends.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2026 13:59

AustenitesUnite · 30/08/2026 13:37

IIRC Prince Harry had to pay back the full costs of the renovations on Frogmore House because there were issues surrounding it being taxpayers money and H&M only lived there for 5 minutes before their Freedom Flight

It feels as though they learned nothing from this experience i.e. that British taxpayers do not wish to fund people who don't put anything worthwhile back into their society

It's true that this was the story the MIGSs told at the time, AustenitesUnite, but IIRC there were other versions of "what they'd paid for Frogmore" before this, and a quick shuffle was done to imply the renovation costs had been rolled up in the rent

As ever these claims tend to rely on people forgetting what was said before, which is why so many are best treated with a huge pinch of salt

Thedom · 30/08/2026 14:00

Bigcat25 · 30/08/2026 13:46

Probably it didn't fit into their security policy (worried about poison perhaps.) Still it's incredibly rude.

Exactly, throw it in the bin and send one of those thank you notes she likes to issue 🙄

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:01

Bigcat25 · 30/08/2026 13:46

Probably it didn't fit into their security policy (worried about poison perhaps.) Still it's incredibly rude.

Honestly who do they think they are?

Why would anyone go to such lengths to poison the 5th in line and his former actress wife? Do they think this is still the middle ages or what?

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 14:06

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:01

Honestly who do they think they are?

Why would anyone go to such lengths to poison the 5th in line and his former actress wife? Do they think this is still the middle ages or what?

Paranoia

Hostamenace689 · 30/08/2026 14:06

Thedom · 30/08/2026 13:32

I agree, and I do think that just proves his claims about his security concerns are surely invented, because what parent would put their children’s lives at risk to prioritize and cater to their own wants and needs. Unless, of course, he is totally so self absorbed in his own narcissistic needs, his kids don’t really matter to him in the bigger picture.

He is serving his kids up on a silver platter as he stoops to any low to coerce and blackmail the UK government into giving him what he wants.

Sorry but I think your and PPs suggestion that Harry isn’t worried about the safety of his own children and that he could even be knowingly putting them in danger, or wouldn’t mind if there was an incident because it would prove his point, is really an unpleasant thing to post.

One, you have no idea what goes through his mind on this subject and two, he could have made a calculation about schooling being safer in UK than USA or that could have been advice he received.

Whatever you think of Harry and Meghan, I think posts like this are really uncalled for.

My2cents1975 · 30/08/2026 14:07

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2026 10:36

Looking at it from another perspective, H somehow came into possession of the knowledge that there was a threat to him from Al Queda in 2023. He has now put that out there.

So Al Quada (and was it Al Quaeda or the Taliban, BTW?) now know that UK intelligence acquired knowledge of what they were up to at that point in time, which is a cue for them to investigate and shut down wherever the intelligence leak came from.

Unless, of course, H is making it all up.

I firmly agree with you @Rhaidimiddim

H has placed intelligence operatives at risk due to his leaky mouth regarding that plot. Imagine, if that operative is pulled and the UK subsequently misses intelligence that results in loss of life on UK soil or on Commonwealth/allied soil?

Honestly, at this point H should be charged by the security services as breaching operations confidentiality by briefing the newspapers.

IMHO, time spent in a jail cell may provide the reality check H desperately needs. H's actions have crossed from column inches that you can roll your eyes at, to genuine endangerment of public safety, if the briefing is true.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:10

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 14:06

Paranoia

So paranoid they happily leave their children while they fly off on jollies 17 time zones away?

So paranoid they happily leak their location and travel plans?

So paranoid they post photos of their children in private locations?

They're not paranoid. They just have delusions of grandeur.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:12

Hostamenace689 · 30/08/2026 14:06

Sorry but I think your and PPs suggestion that Harry isn’t worried about the safety of his own children and that he could even be knowingly putting them in danger, or wouldn’t mind if there was an incident because it would prove his point, is really an unpleasant thing to post.

One, you have no idea what goes through his mind on this subject and two, he could have made a calculation about schooling being safer in UK than USA or that could have been advice he received.

Whatever you think of Harry and Meghan, I think posts like this are really uncalled for.

Edited

Sorry but I think your and PPs suggestion that Harry isn’t worried about the safety of his own children and that he could even be knowingly putting them in danger, or wouldn’t mind if there was an incident because it would prove his point, is really an unpleasant thing to post.

Do posts have to be 'pleasant'?

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 14:12

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:10

So paranoid they happily leave their children while they fly off on jollies 17 time zones away?

So paranoid they happily leak their location and travel plans?

So paranoid they post photos of their children in private locations?

They're not paranoid. They just have delusions of grandeur.

Blimey. Ok, calm down. Just making a suggestion.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:13

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 14:12

Blimey. Ok, calm down. Just making a suggestion.

What's not 'calm' about my post?

twatwrangler · 30/08/2026 14:14

Any danger that H feels that he may be subjected to has been occasioned by him flapping his big fat gob, then thinking about what he has said, having second thoughts about it and dirtying his drawers.

The thing is, I will put money on any potential enemy being of the same opinion as most of us.

He is a joke who speaks shite.

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 14:15

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:13

What's not 'calm' about my post?

It's fine, it's all ok, I apologise for using the word paranoia and won't use it again.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2026 14:16

FenellaFeldman · 30/08/2026 14:15

It's fine, it's all ok, I apologise for using the word paranoia and won't use it again.

OK you're being snide and passive aggressive now.

If you don't want people disagreeing with you, a public discussion forum might not be the best place.

notimagain · 30/08/2026 14:18

Honestly, at this point H should be charged by the security services as breaching operations confidentiality by briefing the newspapers.

In all honesty I'm still of the opinion he could quite easily be making a lot of this crap up or embellishing something slightly factual for effect.

I certainly wouldn't be assuming he's put a human source at risk, but if he's any privileged info at all he really shouldn't be talking about it....

If the int people/police have any sense the best thing to do is for them is to go strict "need to know", if they haven't already.

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