PR disasters thread 28

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Are the bets on or off for an invite to Balmoral?
Will Meghan bake a humble pie for Catherine?
Let’s discuss……!

Haha @Noodledog i remember that and thinking how stupid does she think we are? Its a fairy story to make PH think she had no idea who he was, and that she was a sweet innocent gel who just wanted a kind man. And then to my horror saw PH actually believe her. Love bombed.

I thought she might be alright but after watching her try to force K to be her bbf - probably because PH adored K then, and they were great friends- it would be more positive influence. K refused to be used or bbf with a stranger- which of course M interepted as jealous. As if.

@AutumnCrowsMusings thats a lot of wives! Practically a bluebeard.

I only watched clips of the engagement interview and enjoyed the wedding. The moment I started to think a life of Royal service wasn't going to work for them was when Meghan said that nobody had asked if she was ok, whilst on tour in South Africa. It was the opposite of what being royal is about, drawing attention to yourself rather than the people you are meeting. The fact that Harry was also making it about him, in the middle of a tour, made it pretty clear that he was not the Harry palace PR had created.

I thought that it was probably best they left and lived a lovely private life but the grandiose "internationally protected persons" statement, released without notifying the palace, made it clear that wasnt going to happen. From then it's been watching them make bad decision after bad decision, ruin their popularity all made worse by terrible, unlucky timing.

I still maintain though that Harry should bear the larger part of the blame because he knew the life he was asking Megan to join and he clearly never once chose royal duty and public expectations of the monarchy over his own arrogance, bitterness and entitlement. When he chose to leave he could have left with dignity and goodwill but instead flounced out trying to burn everything down behind him.

Which he didn't achieve and which he won't. The monarchy has survived far worse than the airing of a Spare's grievances. What will ultimately end it, imo, will not be a scandal but simply society deciding that the institution no longer fits with how society sees itself. Time and cultural change will end the monarchy, not lies and tantrums or even scandal.

I remember those 2020 threads and some posters insisting that H and M were forced out , racism, jealousy etc etc , believing every word in OW and Spare , that H and M were now living their best lives , going to be billionaires, Monarchy was finished and lots of other nonsense.
I would love to read what those posters think now .

It was writing on the banana that made me think- trite.

That’s it “simpering and flirting” is an excellent description of one of her personas. I didn’t see the engagement interview at the time but since their departure have seen quite a few interviews when she was Suits and that’s exactly how she behaves - it’s so inauthentic, cringe and jarring - there’s one where she’s hardly wearing any clothes and her body is twisting, collapsing and gyrating in the chair - just bizarre.

I first saw it myself at the wedding where she was looking into PH eyes like a dazed gazelle - again it was acting - very bad acting. I didn’t take any notice then just clocked it as off.

It was the similar eye searching performance in Africa that totally triggered my spidey senses.

The the OW interview less the actual words but the sullen moody sulky dark victim persona - deeply unpleasant to watch.

More recently her dull humourless self absorbed self righteous interactions in interviews have cringed me out.

Oh yes , I had forgotten that . And the post with 2 bananas hugging each other ? If i remember correctly that’s when they ( or at least H) were trying to keep the relationship quiet .

I didn’t catch in from the start. I did think an American actress marrying in was unlikely to work, if only because she wouldn’t have grown up with the background knowledge that you just pick up by living in a country with a monarchy.

The engagement interview and pics I thought a bit weird but put it down to that “fish out of water thing”

It was only after they left (which I thought was probably best for them) and started just dropping nonsense that I realised what a mess it was. That’s when I started reading posts here!

You still can.

Talk of the engagement interview reminds me of something they said which I'd (thankfully) forgotten: When asked how the proposal came about they smirked at each other and said they'd been roasting a chicken at the time. I just thought it was a lame attempt by them at being relatable.

It was about six months later on another anti-Sussex forum I discovered "roasting a chicken" has nothing to do with cooking and actually refers to a sexual act.

The despicable duo were even then poking fun at an unsuspecting (and at the time, mainly adoring) public.

I wish that were so Jeff but those threads were so angry they invariably they got deleted.

Same here really. I thought the engagement interview was a bit OTT, but just put that down to "SoCal American actress" (the claiming she never googled him did make me laugh out loud - really stupid thing to say). I did wonder if it was to head off the gold digger accusations, it was a dumb thing to say, should've said she googled him, because she obviously knew the name but being American didn't know that much. Much more believable.

I did wonder how she would cope and thought she'd likely struggle.

I thought it completely weird she only had her Mother at the wedding and how her father was treated, he was stupid working with a photographer but it seemed fairly harmless. Harry never meeting him at all before the wedding was a massive red flag - who does that??? And clearly all manipulated into having Charles walk her down the aisle.

The writing on bananas made me laugh, but again - "SoCal American actress".

The stupid palaver about the birth of Archie was just that. Idiotic

The interviews in South Africa I felt were inappropriate, but again - American oversharing, with quite a sprinkle of petty. I do remember trying to still defend them a bit and put their side across when we were talking about it at work. (I was the only one).

When they left I thought it was the best thing because she clearly wasn't happy or coping with the role. And frankly neither was he.

From that, and the SA interviews I think I knew then - they wouldn't do the quiet life. Was just waiting for the tell alls. They certainly didn't disappoint with those, or the ongoing multishambles.

My light bulb moment came the day Marie-Antoinette went to Wimbledon.

That single incident revealed a lot about Meghan's true character, none of it pleasant.

@MrsGussetdo you mean when she sat with her friends surrounding by empty seats, looking like the cat that got the cream? I remember there was a guy in front taking a selfie and he was told not to take a photo of M by her bodyguard.

I realised Meghan was one of ‘those Americans’ the ones who speak their banal insights in loud voices so the rest of us dummies can soak up their wisdom and thought this was going to be fun, and then picked up on hating Catherine vibes at Wimbledon and thought this will not end well.

She thought she and Harry would relegate William and Catherine to supporting players.

Ive had bosses coming into roles with similar I’m going to shake things up speeches and it rarely ends well

Yes! Thank you 😊

That's the one.

Arrogance, grandiosity & a total lack of consideration for others on full display.

I didn’t watch much about them, busy with other stuff but travelled to watch the wedding (with thousands of other British racists), the atmosphere in Windsor was brilliant. I came out of the portaloo to find my husband being interviewed on Japanese TV! Watching it on TV later - the priest disrespectfully ignoring the schedule, the lack of family and the celebrity guests made me think differently. The royal family must have seen so much more and the day must have been very difficult.

Having just seen the clips on here of the four I felt so sorry for Catherine, pregnant, physically uncomfortable and vulnerable. The contrast with the word salad smugness is remarkable.

Her disingenuous “as long as he’s kind” - both of them are very unkind so well suited.

The Wimbledon photo was so amusing, when the papers zoomed in on the photo he was taking it was a selfie of himself and a tennis player in the distance behind him. The poor man had no clue when he was told off for taking a photo of Meghan.

I along with most people I knew thought it was lovely that Harry was settling down with a wife that would make him happy as he clearly wanted. Hadn't heard of her, but then I'm not up on actors in any capacity - they have to be majorly famous for me to have heard of them, so assumed the press was right in calling her a star.

The first point I wondered was at the wedding. Harry look excited and happy right up to a certain point at the altar when suddenly his eyes changed and we all turned to each other and wondered what he'd just realised. It wasn't in the vows or anything notable.
He suddenly looked sad or scared, and his eyes stayed like that for the rest of the time we saw him, even when he was smiling in the carriage as he left.
We all wondered what had hit him at that moment.

Probab just the sniff had worn off.

Thanks for PP “multishambles” - brilliant description to go along with shenanigans, nonsense, pantomime, circus - the clowns …. their non existent self awareness with each and every word and action is just stepping into more ridicule. They have no idea how entertaining they are.

I'm going to bite the bullet one of these days, Jeff, and look at what absolute twaddle I still believed to be true back in 2020!

I do remember thinking that it was a mighty big co-incidence that HaM buggered off to Canada and then the US right in the middle of the downfall of Andrew M-W, and assumed that they would be having something to say about him & Epstein once they'd 'found their freedom'. So, any day now, eh?

Otherwise, it remains a very big and very unlikely co-incidence and quite the mystery.

I never took much notice of the royals in general, I'm from an EU country, a republic, so I saw them more as "celebrities" rather than representing the UK etc which I can see now after many years living here.
My red flag re Meghan was the engagement interview, I only saw the highlights but even then she came across as very fake. Didn't think much of it at the time but I thought she would do well with her acting experience and could convincingly fake interest at a visit to a fish processing plant in Grimsby or whatever.
The moment I thought she was actually out of her depth was when she talked about the Life in the UK test (to get British citizenship) and said it was so hard. I'd sat that very test a couple of years prior, it's really easy but you have to read the very short book that comes with it and clearly she couldn't be bothered to do so. Dismissed her as thick and lazy there and then. And the shenanigans that followed just confirmed my opinion.

Back to lurking and thank you all for these very enjoyable threads

That incident still baffles me.

Why were a couple of goons allowed to turf people out of seats they had paid for? Why didn't Middle England tell them where to go?

i'm sure someobe would have complaibed to managemwnt at the time. Why didn't Wimbledon officials ask WTAF are you doing?

What happened to the Blitz spirit, British backbone; where were the Roundheads and Cliff Richard when we needed them?

IMO it's the fact that they bought into the whole thing so blindly which showed the kind of mentality so clearly, Mylovelygreendress

A PP said that it's actually a good thing that Meghan lacks talent and intelligence because otherwise she could have got away with a lot more, and though I hadn't thought of it quite like that they weren't wrong

At least she's made it possible for most to see straight through her, and though the RF may regret Harry's choice I suspect they're very glad of that

I think I was being a tad too vague! 😁 , I meant that those posters are still here.