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The royal family

So why is Harry safe but not Meghan and the kids?

323 replies

canthavetoomanylights · 10/07/2026 07:58

Sorry if this is obvious/already discussed.. I can’t find it.

Im just wondering why Harry can do these ‘engagements’ but his wife and kids can’t step in the country.

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jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:28

The press secretaries don’t have the power to manipulate him into wearing a Nazi costume, a naked LA pool game or falling out of nightclubs drunk and stoned!
he did those all on his own!
his only complaints are not that he did it but that he was caught!

Talkinpeace · 12/07/2026 14:32

George and Charlotte used to go to the Kensington Gardens playground with their nanny.
Some people clocked who they were but carried on playing with their own kids.

Meghan is an utter drama queen who cannot bear the thought that she would likely be ignored if she walked down a west London street.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:41

Talkinpeace · 12/07/2026 14:32

George and Charlotte used to go to the Kensington Gardens playground with their nanny.
Some people clocked who they were but carried on playing with their own kids.

Meghan is an utter drama queen who cannot bear the thought that she would likely be ignored if she walked down a west London street.

As happened in the early days when she walked down Kensington High Street, wanting to be papped!

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:42

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:28

The press secretaries don’t have the power to manipulate him into wearing a Nazi costume, a naked LA pool game or falling out of nightclubs drunk and stoned!
he did those all on his own!
his only complaints are not that he did it but that he was caught!

Absolutely! He wants to restrict press freedom for this very reason.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:43

tarheelbaby · 12/07/2026 14:24

I think he wanted to get away from the RF's control over him and their influence on the press.

I recently read Spare - it was in the library. It's not nearly as whingy as I expected. Harry's ghostwriter did a phenomenal job. Having read Valentine Low's book, Courtiers, a lot of what Harry alleges seems plausible.

Harry was convinced that the private secretaries manipulated everything to make him look bad. I think he wanted to get away from their control over him and their influence on the press as allowed and, he felt, even encouraged by KC and QC. He felt that the press made up info about him and the royal family and he's probably right but he also felt that things appeared in the press which should have been confidential and thus were leaked by Charles' office

Also, as the book paints it, Harry does not seem to have spent much time with Charles, ever. Mostly he was at boarding school or in the military whilst Charles was off doing his engagements, etc. They do not seem to have had much of a relationship. So fixing up for KC to meet Archie and Lili might not be as big a priority for him as it seems to be for the press.

Harry claimed a lot in that book.
Recollections may vary.

tarheelbaby · 12/07/2026 14:47

@sunflowersintheday - recollections totally vary. :) The interesting bit for me was how his recollections compared with VLow's whole book about how the RF's secretaries tied themselves in knots trying to make 'their' royal look best even at the expense of the others.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:48

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:42

Absolutely! He wants to restrict press freedom for this very reason.

It’s so obvious isn’t it!

Whaleandsnail6 · 12/07/2026 14:51

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:43

Harry claimed a lot in that book.
Recollections may vary.

Yep.... recollections that are entirely false, proven by photographic evidence!

Wouldn't trust a word thats written in that book.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:53

tarheelbaby · 12/07/2026 14:47

@sunflowersintheday - recollections totally vary. :) The interesting bit for me was how his recollections compared with VLow's whole book about how the RF's secretaries tied themselves in knots trying to make 'their' royal look best even at the expense of the others.

Yet "Spare" is filled with so many half truths, exaggerations and lies. I read an article by the ghostwriter and he had a difficult task, and refused to include stuff which was clearly fantasy. So I don't think it's good evidence for anything apart from Harry's bitterness, misogyny, jealousy, resentment and talent for exaggeration.
Harry never really self managed. There's a bit of negative press? It's got to be the MIGS! It's got to be Camilla! No mate, you were in a bar getting trashed, god knows what you said.

Viviennemary · 12/07/2026 14:54

Lol at Harry being a natural royal. He has no class whatsoever.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 14:57

Whaleandsnail6 · 12/07/2026 14:51

Yep.... recollections that are entirely false, proven by photographic evidence!

Wouldn't trust a word thats written in that book.

Yes. Why lie about where he was when the QM died?
Documentary evidence about his location on the date is available.
Why say his dad never taught him to ride a bike? His dad never hugged him?. Photographic evidence aplenty!
The ghostwriter, JRMoehringer had some interesting observations about working with Harry.
However much he was paid, it wasn't enough.
I think Harry is like many of his fans who regularly excuse him; he's a Royal Prince, so is naturally not to be questioned.

noonames · 12/07/2026 14:58

The natural royal who cannot resist tweaking a nipple or slapping an arse 😳

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 15:00

Although I loathe his attitude in the book, dripping with misogyny, arrogance and bitterness, in other places it's unintentionally funny. If only he had a sense of humour that wasn't boorish.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 15:01

noonames · 12/07/2026 14:58

The natural royal who cannot resist tweaking a nipple or slapping an arse 😳

Quite. Chucking women in swimming pools, manhandling others. Charmless oaf.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 15:02

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:28

The press secretaries don’t have the power to manipulate him into wearing a Nazi costume, a naked LA pool game or falling out of nightclubs drunk and stoned!
he did those all on his own!
his only complaints are not that he did it but that he was caught!

True. Also, he never takes responsibility for his actions. So his speech about the UK needing a bit more resilience is funny.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 15:04

I read an interesting comment yesterday; "Harry cannot come to terms with four people being ahead of him, but ignores the billions behind him".

BemusedAmerican · 12/07/2026 15:25

I can't understand why he just didn't ask for another sausage. I find it hard to believe that the RF couldn't budget for it in the breakfast spending. He's making the RF sound like the orphanage in Oliver Twist.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 15:27

BemusedAmerican · 12/07/2026 15:25

I can't understand why he just didn't ask for another sausage. I find it hard to believe that the RF couldn't budget for it in the breakfast spending. He's making the RF sound like the orphanage in Oliver Twist.

True! I'm going to suggest that it's probably an exaggeration!

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 15:28

Also complaining about the size of his bedroom. In whatever palace or castle he was living in! 🙄
You couldn't make it up!

AnAutumnCrow · 12/07/2026 23:18

sunflowersintheday · 11/07/2026 09:41

Yes, I have no idea why she does Invictus, she just uses it as a fashion show. Awful.

I’m glad somebody put a stop to that crap.

sunflowersintheday · 12/07/2026 23:24

AnAutumnCrow · 12/07/2026 23:18

I’m glad somebody put a stop to that crap.

Good!

DJPJ · 12/07/2026 23:34

AnAutumnCrow · 12/07/2026 23:18

I’m glad somebody put a stop to that crap.

Do we know that anyone did put a stop to it? Because last Friday/Saturday the infamous WhatsApp schedule declared that MM was accompanying PH to his public engagements - IGF, RH Chelsea, IG at NEC, Well Child, Scotties Little Soldiers etc - where ahe would have merched the sick and bereaved children, pensioners, maimed military hero’s, to showcase and flog the clothes on her back. She has done this consistently even at the site of a terrorist atrocity and at the WHO.

I think she didn’t come because she didn’t want to be covered in the ANL shitstorm. She chose to abandon her DH and preserve her solo personal brand. Not because someone said No or put a stop to it.

Dustyblue · Yesterday 00:47

Just back to Harry and his security. Ken Wharfe, who was PPO to Diana and William/Harry as kids has been on a few royal related podcasts recently. His take on this is that the Met will absolutely be assessing any threats/risk to their security even though they're not providing protection as such. He says nobody wants them harmed on British soil, which seems pretty obvious.

What Harry really wants according to Wharfe is the blue lights, escorts through traffic, the police outriders and so on. In other words, the status he's always had since he was a young boy. Makes sense.

LivelyGreyShark · Yesterday 01:35

So Megan being here this week and having a visit with Charles and Camilla at Highgrove was leaked by BP, not one single photo of Megan - yet there are thousands of posts on mumsnet on how evil H&M are. Harry hasn't had funding from the British public for years, William on the other hand does very few engagements and makes millions, i honestly don't get the hate for H&M.

BemusedAmerican · Yesterday 02:30

Well, he is in the US on a dodgy visa at a time when Catholic nuns in pre- Vatican II habits walking down the street to mass are being arrested by ICE and put in horrible detention centers. Yet he can fly around the world unbothered.

Every time he and his wife come to my city, we give him a police escort to pad out his armed security despite the fact that innocent NYC residents, without paid security, are being shot and attacked in the streets. He really needs a police escort to go to a tatoo parlor? Give me a break.

Sentebale - he treated Dr. Sophie like garbage.

African Parks.

ANL - disgraceful and pointless.

Disaster tourism after the LA fires.

Dodgy Archewell finances.

William is spending his own millions to end homelessness. He's working with Earthshot. Your low tariffs with the US are due to him and Catherine charming Trump.