Time to either prosecute Andrew or forget him.

[Bougainsillier]

Firstly let me say I am in NO way defending him; hes clearly completely awful in so many ways. Finally stripped of all titles and position, and dumped over in Norfolk, but still not charged with or found guilty of any crime.

But it’s starting to feel like he’s being tried by the press now to sell stories. Isn’t there enough evidence to prosecute? Is there a cover up? Or can we just leave him to himself now? It’s news headlines endlessly…

Mandelson in the other hand is another matter..

I want the sealed records from his decade as UK Trade Envoy to be unsealed. I want to know about his visits to Libya and other places. I want to know who knew what about what he was doing. And if that goes all the way to TLQ then so be it.

I agree. The continuing media obsession with him is being used as a diversion from all the others who were involved. Let's move on to the rest!

He was a Prince of the realm. And still more awful pictures and facts are coming out about him, and his dreadful ex-wife. Of course it's an ongoing story.

Donald Trump would agree with you both @Bougainsillier and @Lifestooshort71

Nothing came out about me other than it was a conspiracy against me, literally, by Epstein and other people. But I think it's time now for the country to maybe get on to something else like health care or something that people care about," Mr Trump said.

I agree about him being used as a diversion from others but, in my view it should not be either or, it should be all. I find it hard to believe that some are not still being protected.

I agree. Unless he’s charged with something he’s had his punishment.

I find is hard to believe that some are not still being protected.
'not still being protected'?

I think that worse info will come out about Andrew MW and Sarah F so it’s too early to complain about too much coverage on him.

AMW is a useful idiot that is being used to distract from other powerful rich men like Clinton, Trump, Gates… and I don’t blame journalists for not wanting to end up dead by going after them before everybody else does too.

I don't think Andrew is innocent but I think photos were taken of various people in odd scenarios to enable this exact situation. It causes a distraction and the real perpetraters are then able to escape unpunished. The photos are just odd and the PM ones. I believe they were taken on purpose and used to protect others in the circle.

Im sorry but, how many times did they used Catherine looks and clothes as distraction and attacked Meghan horribly with racist and xenophobic rethoric (instrad of attacking the pedophile)? Did you asked to forget them? Also let me remember that Andrew wasnt stripped from his titles. He agreed to not use it, which is different. So no, we wont forget him until he is persecuted and justice is done. Also, what else they hide from us?

Hardly. He will still be living in luxury. It might not be the huge place he had before, but he will have staff of all sorts to make his life bearable, he can travel discreetly first class (just not to the US!) he will have a housekeeper, groom, cook, gardeneer and more.
I don't call that a punishment and no, I don't want to move on.

Unseal the Trade Envoy records which the Monarch chose to seal up because of what was in them.
No moving on here.

Prince Andrew is an entitled arrogant piece of work who has always had his brains in his trousers. As long as he can get his end away he will and he won’t ask questions (along with the likes of Clinton). He married a grifter and along with Epstein they all enjoyed a mutually beneficial relationship. If his brains weren’t lodged in his trousers he would have realised that he was nothing more than the useful idiot.

He will eventually be forgotten about.

Peter Mandleson is a different kettle of fish whose relationship with ‘my best pal’ Epstein pre dates (I think?) AMW relationship with Epstein. It was Mandleson that strongly backed AMW for the Trade envoy position in the first place back in 2001.

Ooops correction - Prince Andrew

This.

The King has removed all his titles, and your comparison to Catherine and Meghan is bizarre

An ex was present with him on a couple of occasions when he acted as Trade envoy abroad (ex was with the foreign office) . he could not tell me any details, but I recall him coming home one day absolutely shaking with rage at AMW's behaviour over something. I'll never forget how angry he was at something- spitting.

So I'd LOVE for this man's behaviour to be revealed in all its hideous shameful 'glory' as it seems to me that there is much to be said.

@Bougainsillier
His titles were removed only when KC was forced.

THIS,

when he stops being protected we can forget him.

when he returns the tax payer money that funded many of these his overseas trips in public roles

when his body guards who must have seen A LOT get called to testify

when hr is subpoenaed in the U.S. to disclose what he knows about Epstein.

all absolutely disgusting with the royal family as enablers and cover ups!

I'm sorry but I completely disagree he's had his punishment.

I'm not sure Andrew did anything illegal in this country to be prosecuted for, both women were over the age of consent and as far as he was concerned were willing. The second one apparently flew from the US to have dinner with him, she was 26 so hardly a child, and why wouldn't someone fly across the world for dinner with a prince at someone else's expense? Andrew thought himself god's gift anyway so why would he not believe it. I think Andrew is very much a scapegoat, rich (or access to money anyway) but no power, isn't it interesting that he is the only man named by any of the victims. Are the other men too powerful and dangerous to mention? Andrew is sleazy and unpleasant, also I think not too smart, and Fergie was the one constantly looking for money a marriage made in heaven!

Perhaps, but without a conviction what other punishment is there? Which is why I said either prosecute and really punish or not

No OP we won’t and deflection posts such as yours do not help Andrew

Thankfully it’s rare but every time a poster starts with ‘ I’m not defending Andrew’ ‘Andrew is vile but’ -they go on to defend Andrew.
Deflecting, minimising and general ‘look over here’ an whataboutery is a transparent attempt to help Andrew Windsor .

I'm not sure Andrew did anything illegal in this country to be prosecuted for, both women were over the age of consent and as far as he was concerned were willing

I don't know how many times it has to be said on these threads but if you are trafficked, your age is irrelevant

I feel like banging my head against a brick wall when trafficking is exploitation, coercion and control. Age does not come into it

All of this !

Despite me saying I wasn’t defending him and he was truly awful you think you know what I think more than me. Carry on.