Anyone excited for the final season of Succession? *Spoiler alert*

Logan's cable knit jumper and fluffy cuddly cardigan are definitely deliberate style choices.

I agree. Although I think I'm a dissenting voice on Shiv as I think she usually looks quite good!

Tom as a relative outsider has to try hard and has probably slung money at getting the best tailor/stylists/grooming possible.

I think the clothing decisions are very carefully thought out. If you look at Shiv in the first season, she dressed very differently.

Logan (RIP🤣)did love a cable knit.

Oh, and I've no doubt at all that they're all deliberate decisions by the show's stylists.

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2019/10/16/20916167/succession-costume-designer-interview

this is from end of series 2 but some interesting bits re:costume choices

Ooh, thank you!

Thank you, that's such an interesting article! I'd forgotten about Tom's puffy vest being full of his hopes and dreams 😂

Also, as an aside, there are some Me Too-ish stories circulating about Nicholas Braun. If I was a cynic I’d say someone has done a very good job of sitting on them until filming was complete. If there’s any truth to them, then there have been some very close to the bone lines aimed at his character throughout the show.

I’ve just restarted the first series and Shiv looks really different, long hair and wearing a pink silk shirt and trouser combo and think a cardigan that looks casual but obvs cost a fortune. She definitely looks much more put together. There must be an deliberate shift in what she’s wearing and even how she carries herself. She looks much younger in series 1 even though it wasn’t that long ago.

She was in politics in season 1, so I guess image was much more important to her.

The Ringer interview is great, thanks @slamfightbrightlight - why am I not surprised that Jeremy Strong is involved in Kendall's wardrobe down to choosing the underwear!

Logan did like a comfy cable knit, shame he was the world's most terrifying grandpa (I guess maybe except Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin). He got one of Kendall's kids to taste his food for him in case Kendall was trying to poison him.

'He got one of Kendall's kids to taste his food for him in case Kendall was trying to poison him.'

Oh my gosh, I had forgotten that! 😱 He was such a fearsome character, really frightening at times

Am I the only one who is very disappointed with the series?

Seems just swearing for the sake of it with no real drama except a rehash of the same old. Shiv looks a mess. Was she pregnant during filming? None of the characters (except the old man) are likeable and if he's really dead then it's all very disappointing.

The point is that they are deeply unlikeable! It's like dark bitter coffee in the morning, after lying awake at 3 am thinking about all the regrets you have and can never change now. It's gnawing existentialist despair. It's realising your parents never loved you. It's Philip Larkin, as pp said. 😀

'if he's really dead'? Have you actually watched the pertinent episode?
And I second what JaneFondue says. But I'd also add that part of its allure and its genius is that yes, they all behave abominably most of the time, but you can see why, and even have some sympathy for at least understanding of them.
If you're watching it for simple likeability then you are definitely on a hiding to nothing, but IMO it is much more rewarding than would be a drama where everyone is just nice.

And the 'same old' can equally be described as the whole point of the whole thing. I'd think that being part of a dynasty like that IS an endless circling of the idea of succession, and changing your approach/manoeuvres as the wind changes, and being constantly on edge and insecure. Which takes it toll on a person's character and humanity, and again makes for great drama.

The old man was decidedly not likeable! He was an utter monster. Everyone in the show is horrific. The point is that money corrupts and these people are obscenely wealthy.

Likeable 😂 the man was a monster.

In Season 1 he's even worse

This is such a great description. I know some people who watch it do struggle with them all being so despicable but for me that’s the joy of it. And still rooting for (some of) them despite their massive flaws.

It also shows just how completely removed the mega-wealthy are from everyone else, and yet how much they control the narrative - I know they haven’t made as much of that in recent series but the manipulation of politics and public thought definitely came through in earlier episodes. As a kind of “how the hell did we get here” it’s a really sobering watch.

And the acting is just so phenomenal. No gesture or word is wasted. Roman’s fumbled attempts at comforting his siblings, and in seeking comfort from
Gerri, made me physically ache 😆 I watch an embarrassing amount of television but I rarely rewatch drama series, whereas this I can watch over and over again.

Oh no! That would be so disappointing. I love his performance as Greg.

I do get that they're all terrible people, but I could really get into it in Seasons 1 and 2. Season 3 was much weaker but still good. But this season is just a drag. Same old same old and none of the characters have any kind of development

I know what you mean. I would have liked this series to have stated with the Madsen deal done and the kids dealing with the fallout, rather than it still being in negotiation. The scenes are still better than pretty much all other shows but I find when it’s all negotiation and back and forth, it’s a bit wearying. Also maybe if Tom and Shiv’s divorce was already underway, rather than just starting. Though maybe both things wouldn’t work now with Logan’s death - for example if the Madsen deal had gone through, would any of the 3 be able to take over? I’ve confused myself with the detail. You can tell I’m not in business!

Yep if the company had been sold to Matsson there would be nothing for the kids to 'succeed' to, they would be (even more) staggeringly wealthy and the only company Logan would still have been running would be ATN.

Sorry @XelaM for Succession-splaining to you! I didn't realise you had seen the earlier seasons and preferred them; I thought you hadn't seen any.

Personally I think the S 3 season finale with the wedding in Italy was the best of the lot.

Thanks tribpot.

It’s so revealing those moments where all your money and power can’t change anything. They want to get the best heart doctor and a better medical team etc etc. Do you remember in a previous series where Kendall wants to get the heli to the board meeting and the airspace is shut. Kendall is offering him everything until the pilot finally says if I take off they will shoot us down and he finally gives in!

Totally agree re the wedding. The scenes with the three kids were incredible