EastEnders: the SPOILERS thread!

[Southeastdweller]

Welcome to the EastEnders spoilers thread, where we post and talk about any EE spoilers we've read about, including those in early release episodes on iPlayer.

Link below to watch episodes on BBC iPlayer - these are usually dropped at 6am on broadcast days - and you can read brief synopses of upcoming episodes:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d

Aha! Thank you! So many mysteries. I was shocked but pleased to see Cindy return though.

Ok but where did Kathy and Pete’s live then? I recall maybe they lived in a flat? Or was that when they were younger. I agree re Ian’s business sense not being brilliant but he does have some ex wives/partners.

So confusing who owns what, who owes who what! Who’s slept with whom and had kids with who what?! 🤣

Thanks for this.

My hazy memory is that Kathy and Pete lived in a high rise flat on a council estate. We only saw the interior but the estate was alluded to when Ian began his catering career, became a successful businessman and moved into a flat on the square. He was a poster child for the Thatcher working class boy done well who came from ‘umble beginnings and I think he had arguments with Pete about wanting more from life that the market stall and a flat on an estate.

I think Pauline and Arthur’s house was also a council property that Pauline managed to buy. Nowadays it would be too expensive for a working class couple even with a Right to Buy discount.

I actually find it really interesting watching old episodes of EE that reflect how life in London has changed. There was really old episode where Den was renting out a flat and someone mentioned it was £45 a week!!

If George doesn’t know how much money is in the bag (which is odd in itself but anyway) then I would definitely do that. Eddie said it was in the low 6 figures so maybe £100,000 and change. Mind boggling that it all fit into the bottom of that bag. Even more puzzling that Eddie arranged for a friend to just put the bag in a cab and send to George’s. Anything could have happened to it!!

I remember Pete and Kathy in their high rise too.

It was Walford Towers, not sure of the accuracy of this but it apparently details all of the residents who’ve lived there over the years

eastenders.fandom.com/wiki/Walford_Towers

The East End was affordable back when EE started even for people on lower salaries and normal jobs.
My brother bought a place near Stratford in 1972 for under 4k and they had ordinary careers and not much money. They had to beg steal and borrow to get that place. You could probably buy it with a loan if it was that price now!
It is unbelievable that someone like Lauren and Peter with two young boys and fairly low paid jobs could afford the rent on Dot’s old place these days. Even with her dodgy car set up and Phil’s safe to bail her out.
Yet they do.
Ian was definitely a Conservative poster boy , tbf his done well against the odds hasn’t he up to now! Quite the business man back then too.
I remember kath and Peter and her knitting business in the flat too.

It was quite conservative in 1985 if you think about it. A teenager turned business man ( Ian ) Kathy and her various businesses stall etc , the pub being run by two working class people with aspirations, even Sharon went to public school and not where Michelle went.
The poorer ones like the Fowler’s were finally a bit better off by buying the house, but it was hard going and reaped rewards now of course with house prices increasing. It’s all things today’s youth can only dream of most of the time.

Was it Walford Towers where Steven lured Ian after sending him all sorts of threatening messages and items ( wreath, coffin, messages) so he believed Cindy wass still alive .....a roomful of photos where Ians eyes were scratched out ....
Jane was shot by Sreven

Probably! Anywhere rough is shown as flats with grime music or drum and bass screeching out through the walls.

And always with a group of rough looking cocky kids standing around looking menacing.

£4k for a house in Stratford. You couldn’t even rent a garage space for that now😂 My parents bought a large 4 bed in Hackney for about £20k in the early 1980s. They were both on a relatively low income (nurse and postman) with 4 young kids to feed and had to scratch around for the deposit but it was doable for working class families back then. My dad said the local bank manager made a loan decision based on whether he liked you or not!

Sonia is renting Lauren and Pe-tah the house at mates/family rates. In reality if she ever took the house back they would be stuffed as a property like that would rent for about £2.5k in East London. But since EE is not based on reality they would probably find somewhere else at the drop of a hat. Kojo managed to get a flat even though he works cash in hand for Phil and has no credit history🤷🏽‍♀️

My brother had to go and see the Bank manager for his mortgage and the deposit for 4k came from parents too. My parents didn’t own a house , but I guess it was only a hundred or something like that they lent them.
Jobs didn’t pay as well, so it’s all relative I suppose.
Prices are very silly now though.

And all their houses seem to have an infinitely expandable number of bedrooms.

You’re correct. It’s so long ago I hadn’t remembered it or like you, only a hazy memory.

The Tardis basically. Of every house. Kids are jammed into kiddie cupboards when not needed/need to be forgotten about. We never see Avani/Nugget’s bedroom as far as I recall, did see Amy’s when she was self harming but the other times you’d barely know a child exists. No school run dramas, occasionally Max takes Annie to school.

Random thoughts on today’s mish mash:

Jordan comes home so that means Chelsea can go off and leave him to it… 🤔
The boys didn’t even seem curious about the phone call from Karen at all. Raymond is 9 , he knows how a phone works! Unless you can’t hear someone above a game going ?
Johnny was so mega busy the other day , yet could go to his estranged Mum’s salsa afternoon.
.. why have a salsa dance session at the time people are at work ? Random.
Phil had more money to splash , he must have a money tree somewhere.
Bea .. where do you start with her?
lily looks more like her mum every day and no sign of Charli.

I couldn't really hear the content of Karen's voicemail, what did she say please?

Must syringe ears.....

Karen basically told Chelsea that Sheila was bad news , had tried to contact Mia and Mack before and to stay away from her.

Thanks, I suspected it might be something like that.

They go on about money and being skint , but then find time to go to the pub and the cafe for coffees and cakes and drinks. Get a big box of Mr Kipling ‘s or some own brand ones out the mini mart or the supermarket, but no, go to the cafe instead! Nicola telling George he was at risk of losing more money whilst organizing half Christmas!
rant over…

Ravi's flat looked tiny, I don't know how it had three bedrooms!

I recently watched an episode featuring the knitting machine, they had a deadline but the machine failed. It was all hands on deck !