Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 11 - the downfall of Erica Girardi

[Deedoubleyou]

Is anyone up to date on RHOBH? I can't believe these women (except Sutton and Garcelle) are so scared of Erica that they seem to be giving her a pass on this?

[Maze76]

So happy I found this thread!
I’m not buying Ericka & Tom divorce is genuinely for the reasons given, like previously said there are to many inconsistencies regarding the car accident etc
I’m loving Sutton and Kathy , not a big fan of Dorit, on the fence with Crystal.

[RealHousewifeofBarnardCastle]

I think Crystal is a bitch. The stuff about the coat was Wtf?

Kyle is well versed in how it works and I suspect media trained

She’s friends with Andy Cohen I think and is therefore edited sympathetically

Erika has never ever seemed upset until this season IIRC so the crying mascara scene was odd. That article is fascinating , thanks for the link

Sutton is an odd fish.

I quite like Rinna, despite feeling I shouldn’t

[RealHousewifeofBarnardCastle]

And Dorit is disingenuous in the extreme

[RealHousewifeofBarnardCastle]

I quite liked Garcelle this season too

[sansucre]

Usually I save the latest episode until Sunday evening, but I just couldn't wait and have already watched it.

Really uncomfortable to watch in places. Erika is so defensive and angry. This is a huge red flag for me. I just don't think she's credible in any way at all.

[EachandEveryone]

Im just watching it now. How embarrassing for cathy and her staff😃

[HeronLanyon]

Erika is not helped by the fact that because her face literally can’t move, her frozen anguish looks totally fake. Oh dear oh dear.

[Justfivemoreminutesplease]

I haven’t watched it yet, but saw some comment about the episode and apparently Kathy’s butler didn’t know who Kyle was… is that true??

Oh and Erika’s so in on it all. Go Sutton and Garcelle!!

[HeronLanyon]

Yes Kyle told him who she was as she slight her seat. I kind of then assumed the butler and french waiters were in fact hired in (maybe regularly? But hired in). I was shocked tbh. But remember they really did have a huge split and didn’t see each other for years. Not sure there’s been an evening event at Kh’s house yet this season ? (Not that they don’t have life away from filming of course) so she really may never have come across him.

[HeronLanyon]

‘Sought’ not ‘slight’ - the slights came later !

[EachandEveryone]

Kathy is so lovely those red candlestick holders are £350 each. What did you think to Doritos cheap wedding dresses?

[MordenLarch]

So glad I’ve found my people! This season has been amazing. A friend told me Potomac is as good so we’ll try that next

[Dontjudgeme101]

This season of Beverly Hill is so dark and sometimes about eerie due to the Tom and Erika situation. It seems that the whole season is mainly about them. Bravo must be loving the attention that Beverly Hills is getting at the moment. Erika must be getting a lot of money for this story line. I would hate to be in her shoes right now.

What was that all about, Kathy’s butler not recognising Kyle? Are they really close, or is it for the cameras?

Some of the names for Dorit’s wedding dresses were ridiculous! Who does PK think he is??

I do think that Sutton was brave standing up to Erika. Erika at the moment seems like a bully. She appears to be very hard faced. It could all be an act and underneath, she is really scared. Tom is a lawyer. I am sure that he has been and is still in her ear about this case. She seems frightened of him,.

I can understand why the women are wary of the whole fiasco and they could be dragged into it too.

[Justfivemoreminutesplease]

Not to deflect from the real victims from Tom’s law firm collapse, but I do think this series is a good one, in that it’s fascinating- if Ericka really was “loaned” $25 million from his law firm, which now seems apparent, it just shows how these types get their money and it’s all not as clean cut as they want to be portrayed. Look at PK and Dorito. And Rinna’s finances now seem to be under closer scrutiny.
I think it just shows how murky Hollywood is and it’s all a life of smoke and mirrors, which is nothing new! This programme just confirms it all and that’s why I think it’s fascinating.

But at least it’s better than New York which for the first time since season 1 I’ve given up on. Seems like I’m not the only one either given the ratings!!

[HeronLanyon]

Gossip is dorinda may be back (maybe after rehab?).

[EachandEveryone]

I can’t get into New York this season it’s lost any class it has. They were always snobbier than the other wives but now they are as common as much. I loved it when Carole was in it.

Dorito and PK are the strangest pair. Really he’s punching I don’t know what it is he’s just so shady. I can’t imagine what Boy George is doing with them both.

[happilybemused]

This question for Kyle for the reunion show is on point 😂

[Dizzy1234]

Huge RHOBH fan here, currently rewatching all the episodes whilst watching the current season.
I think Erica is up to her neck in it, Tom knew the shit was about to hit the fan and has told her to save herself, hence the divorce.
She is contradicting herself, everything she's said previously is now a completely different story.
Tom's business transferred £20m in to her account and she didn't question it 🙄
I think we are really seeing the real Erica this season, she's a liar, a manipulator and a bully.
The look on her face when she confronted Sutton was pure hate, narrowed eyes, bared teeth, she's a vile bully.
Her house of cards is coming down and she's acting like a cornered rat.
I was totally irritated by Kyle for throwing Sutton under the bus, dirty trick.
As for Rinna, she's the shows detective, the sniffer dog, she usually can sniff out a rat but is sticking up for Erica, is this because Erica / Tom have invested in one of her business ventures?
Come on Rinna "OWN IT"

[nzeire]

New York is SHOCKINGLY bad, I have given up and I’m in lockdown for gods sake!
Erika is a big fat meanie, and scrabbling like mad to dig herself out. It’s such bullshit.
And she knew if his affairs 6 years ago… but couldn’t leave as she’d be left with nothing. Righto. Apart from some dignity.

[happilybemused]

One of my favourite moments was when Sutton discovered she owned a couple of baseball teams during her divorce. As you do 😂

[sansucre]

Please can we keep this thread to RHOBH!!

I really like Sutton and this season she has really come into her own. Crystal has issues. I think therapy rather than reality tv would be better for her. Kathy I adore. I realise it's a well-rehearsed face she's showing us but I think her calmness (or whatever tranquilliser she's on) really works not only for the show but for her too, she's on a whole other level!
Shades of early seasons RHBH mean girl Kyle have remerged. I find her quite boring tbh.

@Dizzy1234 wrote I think we are really seeing the real Erica this season, she's a liar, a manipulator and a bully.
The look on her face when she confronted Sutton was pure hate, narrowed eyes, bared teeth, she's a vile bully.

Totally agree with this! This shook me to my core. Erika was vicious. She's really shown everyone exactly who she is, and has until now, managed to keep this aspect of herself very well hidden.

[Deedoubleyou]

Just caught up with the latest episode. Oh Erica is getting more and more desperate and vicious. When she said "Why are you all torturing me?"

Emm no one is torturing you, they are merely asking about vast sums of money that was stolen from very vulnerable people and ended up in your possession?

Love Sutton, Garcelle and Kathy this season. Sutton has completely blossomed. I have liked Crystal apart from the whole coat/room incident. I think she maybe felt under pressure to develop a big storyline as a new cast member?

Dorit and Kyle are just coming across as 2 faced, saying 1 thing behind Erica's back and another to her face, I think they are genuinely scared of her. I hate that they agree with Sutton and Garcelle when they're alone and then when Erica is there they throw them under the bus.

OH ALSO LAST WEEKS EPISODE - Dorit relates to race issues as many of her STAFF are ethnic. Just fucking wow at that.

[happilybemused]

In a shock move I actually found myself agreeing with PK and Dorit today.

The Erica Jayne 'character' is deeply inappropriate right now. It may well be where she finds her strength but she needs to step away from her and show authentic sympathy for the real victims.

In PK's words she needs to rebrand and fast.

Hopefully next week normal service will resume and I'll go back to disagreeing with them

[Lobelia123]

I think most of them aside from Garcelle and Sutton are living in glass houses....ie their money and their lifestyles are not self-made but come from their husbands, and there may be a few questionable rumours around their husbands morality and solvency that they dont want to go too near . . . eg Dorits husband is a multiple bankrupt and con artist who seems to fleece a lot of people (in his defence, wealthy people not widows and orphans a la Girardi), there are some rather raised eyebrows at how quickly Kyles husbands estate agency got traction and made money etc. And Lisa Rinna is a hustler who freely admits that money drives her and she chases the dollar very single mindedly....so their morals and attitude towards money and how you get it all seem to be very confused.....i think privately most of them would justify a whole lot of underhand dealings of it gave them the mega wealth they all crave.

[sansucre]

@Lobelia123

I think most of them aside from Garcelle and Sutton are living in glass houses....ie their money and their lifestyles are not self-made but come from their husbands, and there may be a few questionable rumours around their husbands morality and solvency that they dont want to go too near . . . eg Dorits husband is a multiple bankrupt and con artist who seems to fleece a lot of people (in his defence, wealthy people not widows and orphans a la Girardi), there are some rather raised eyebrows at how quickly Kyles husbands estate agency got traction and made money etc. And Lisa Rinna is a hustler who freely admits that money drives her and she chases the dollar very single mindedly....so their morals and attitude towards money and how you get it all seem to be very confused.....i think privately most of them would justify a whole lot of underhand dealings of it gave them the mega wealth they all crave.

While I agree to this to a degree, the bulk of Sutton's money came from her divorce, her ex-husband runs a hedge fund and various other investments. Kyle has made most of her own money too, it is only during the time of RHOBH that Mauricio has started to make really good money due to leaving Kathy Hilton's husbands firm (Hilton & Hyland) and setting up The Agency. Although he too has been caught up in controversy regarding that, particularly a few other properties he has featured/used in the show for parties.

But yes, many of the current housewives live in glass houses and they are not as rich or self-made as they like to claim.