Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 11 - the downfall of Erica Girardi

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Is anyone up to date on RHOBH? I can't believe these women (except Sutton and Garcelle) are so scared of Erica that they seem to be giving her a pass on this?

I’ve loved this series of BH.

But Ericka is a total bitch. I could not believe her sat down talking in that fake ass voice - full of glam and sipping champagne while bemoaning ‘nobody knows what it’s like for me’.
Read the fucking room Ericka.
I’m sure the victims that had all their money stolen are sitting somewhere now saying - ok we may be penniless but let’s take stock- it could be worse - at least we’ve not got it so bad as Erica.

Total lying fake greedy thief.

Love Garcelle , never have I ever stolen anything!! 💥

Does anyone notice how Ericka doesn’t go for her jugular ???
Why do you think that is?

Love Struttan this series, the only one who has actually stood up for what’s right.

I really liked Kyle until this season. What a bitch she was to Sutton. Two faced manipulative troublemaker.

Cannot stand Rinna. Horrible person inside and out.

Watched the finale. Not the best finale ever, but we did get to see how vile Erika really is and also how much of a stoner Mauricio is. Kyle has fully reverted back to her Mean Girl persona of the first few seasons.

Quote of the season belongs to Sutton (about Erika): "I'd have a lot of rage too if I lost all my money"

Favourite housewives - Garcelle and Sutton. (I would be happy if Dorit, Erika, Kyle and Lisa were not invited back for the next season. I would like Kathy to be a full time housewife but doubt this will happen, not least because she prefers the 'friend' status as it means she doesn't have to be present for the full duration of the reunion.

I'm looking forward to the reunion, by the looks of the trailer Andy is not going to be too easy on Erika - although I still don't think he will press her really hard. I hope he shows Kyle footage of her being a bitch and asks why she was being such a shit stirrer - tbh the housewives shows do need someone pushing things along sometimes as we watch for the drama but Kyle knows how vicious Erika can be and how Sutton would feel if she turned her fury on her.

I feel watching Erika's general behaviour and the way she talks in her 121s, she still feels she is a fan favourite and everyone is cheering for her...I would like to see her reaction to realising there aren't just a few trolls who are baiting her but that the majority of the audience are not behind her.

There is a good video on Youtube of Erika's lie/contradictions and exaggerations which is quite funny.

Fully agree with all of the comments about the finale apart from the fact that Sutton just annoys me personally, I don’t know what it is but she does - I think that towards the end she feels so smug that she knew how vile Erica really is and that just annoyed me, Mauricio is such a stoner though 😂😂😂

Gosh. All these years and the penny has finally dropped. Is that why Mauricio sounds adenoidal? 😅 I am so naive!

Oh yes he is ten times worse now that it’s legal over there 😃

Anyone know when the reunion is on HayU? I can't find it

RHOBH airs in the US on Wednesday nights, so it will be on Prime, Hayu etc on Thursday (tomorrow)

Oooh that's my morning sorted! Thanks

Watched it. They haven't really jumped into the Erika situation yet, felt like they were getting the other (filler) storylines out of the way so hopefully more next week. Erika did feel the need to jump in every two minutes to make it about herself even when they were talking about something totally different. I really feel like she feels like people love her and are cheering her along. I feel like she is playing a role (in her own head) where she is this down beaten women who is rising to the challenge.

Side note - what the fuck is Kyle wearing? She has thousands of options, probably various designers sending her dresses and she chose the one that was so unflattering on her chest/décolletage area. Also whats happening to Erikas face...she's melting!

@Uptoongirl

It's a four part reunion. Give them time, Andy is hardly going to leap into grilling Erika at the outset.

Am still trying to process not only what Kyle was wearing but what the hell she had done to her hair. Who on earth thought that style was a good idea? Her dress is easier to explain away, she's clearly borrowed something from one of her daughters...

I hate commenting on other women's appearances, but Erika's face is the result of too much alcohol, poor diet, stress and zero maintenance/upkeep of the plastic surgery/various non-surgical procedures she's indulged in in the past. Everything about her was lacking, I guess that's what happens when one styles oneself and no longer has a $40,000 a month glam squad.

Tbh, most of the housewives had questionable outfits on/hair and make-up. Only Garcelle and Sutton looked great which is fitting given they're the only ones to come out of this season with any integrity. Would happily steal either/both of their outfits.

Dorit and Rinna are foul. I would be happy if this is the final season for both. Sadly, I suspect this will not be the case.

I agree with everything said above.

Rinna & Dorit are awful.

Lisa only started to want make friends with Garcelle once race was brought up.

Says it all 😂

Three reunion episodes down and I still feel like Andy is pussy footing around. Yes, he has asked some decent questions (not as tough as I'd hoped) but he is not pushing enough when Erika doesn't answer. Tonight he asked if she knew about the debt and her 'answer' was that she doesn't work at the law firm...that's not an answer. Andy then answered for her saying no - but Erika didn't actually say no she said she didn't work at the firm. Crystal also asked where Erika's anger toward Tom was and Erika suddenly puffed up and did her angry voice about Tom but Crystal could have pointed out she might be saying she is angry now but we've seen her crying and worried about Tom in the facility, actually talking about how many good things he's done and how many people he has helped!

I think Garcelle hit the nail on the head when she said, she didn't think Erika knew exactly what was going on but she must have realised their lifestyle didn't match up to Tom's earnings. Yes, he will have made a shit ton of money but 2 private jets, numerous million+ properties, $40k on glam a month etc etc is mulit-multi millionaire level.

I just cant take my eyes off their make up. Appart from rhinna who trowels it on they look lovely.

@Uptoongirl

I agree 100%

'I think Garcelle hit the nail on the head when she said, she didn't think Erika knew exactly what was going on but she must have realised their lifestyle didn't match up to Tom's earnings. Yes, he will have made a shit ton of money but 2 private jets, numerous million+ properties, $40k on glam a month etc etc is mulit-multi millionaire level.'

Totally

I agree that Andy could have gone harder on her. A little bit disappointed in Andy actually. Those poor air crash victims. Why wasn't more made about that rather than a couple of references? They could have done a lot more and didn't. I believe she got off lightly. Fully agree that the others are terrified of Erica. God knows why. And what's worse is that she (Erica) still feels sorry for herself. Not impressed.

I can't believe I am going to come to Erika's defence, but it's an ongoing legal situation, so she has to be very careful about not only what she says but how she says it. I believe this is why the victims are not really referenced otherwise it can be argued that Erika is culpable should she show any regret or sympathy for them.

Andy is never going to be someone who really grills anyone, and while I wasn't expecting him to hold Erika to account, he did put more heat on her than I was expecting.

The only real truth anyone needs to know is that this season, Erika has shown everyone of the housewives (and us too) exactly who she really is. Given her disgusting (and incredibly two-faced) treatment of Sutton, is it any wonder the housewives are terrified of her and want to keep her on side? None of them want to deal with who Erika actually is, or being on the receiving end of her foul temper.

In other RHOBH news, Dorit's home was invaded last night. All her handbags and jewellery was stolen. As they're just about to start filming the next season, it will be interesting to see if she continues.

@sansucre

exactly that, it is an ongoing legal situation and Erika is culpable though. i personally, would think more of her if she said that she would give a percentage of her earnings to the victims, donate her designer stuff etc etc she had an opportunity to do so much and yes, she should go to prison and come clean to all of us about his activities - she clearly knows far more than she's letting on and she is protecting herself 100% which is not on when there are burns victims and widows etc, those people have nothing

Fully agree about Erika's foul temper - awful. Interesting comments about Andy, i honestly thought more of him than that

wow re Dorit - how awful. She'll continue filming in my view...

[quote GreekGod]@sansucre

exactly that, it is an ongoing legal situation and Erika is culpable though. i personally, would think more of her if she said that she would give a percentage of her earnings to the victims, donate her designer stuff etc etc she had an opportunity to do so much and yes, she should go to prison and come clean to all of us about his activities - she clearly knows far more than she's letting on and she is protecting herself 100% which is not on when there are burns victims and widows etc, those people have nothing

Fully agree about Erika's foul temper - awful. Interesting comments about Andy, i honestly thought more of him than that

wow re Dorit - how awful. She'll continue filming in my view...[/quote]
While I agree, unfortunately, that is not how it works.

With regards to Erika, we need to let it all play out in court. While I do not necessarily think she knows the extent of what was happening, and nor is she directly culpable, she did play a part, even unwittingly. Ergo, she does need to take responsibility and pay back any monies that she didn't earn herself/came from Girardi Keese. But she won't do this, acknowledge the true extent of theft or offer any real apology to the victims of Tom's fraudulent activity/out and out theft until a court of law makes her do this.

There is a chance she could get off. And even if this is the case, there will always be a shadow over her head. However, I imagine a Bravo series of her rebuilding her life will be in the works. She has given this season the only real storyline, hence the somewhat light touch and them (Andy and co) wanting to keep her on side.

@sansucre

Yes, I hope she doesn’t get off though. Yes see where you are coming from with Andy, sad though - so much could have been achieved. Unfortunately, yes, you are right - it was the only real storyline

Oh wow, just been reading about Dorit's home invasion. Apparently she was held at gunpoint in her bedroom while the kids were sleeping - PK was still in London. Just awful and terrifying. They smashed their way in through a glass door.

We that was a bit of a damp squib of an ending. Yes Erika got asked more question but wriggled out of giving any straight answers again. Lambasted the ladies for not asking her questions rather than discussing things behind her back, despite having previously bitten off anyone's head who did - even at the reunion she bit Crystal's head off! The ladies and Andy sort of said we/they can't ask you questions because of your reaction and she started going on about being under pressure...so either they can or can't question you, what is it? Nobody looked at her firmly and said no-one is going to question you because of your reaction, they were kind of just mummering it.

Her reaction to being called a liar is so weird, Andy did ask her why it was such a trigger and she said because of the case it's not a good word to be throwing out - I could sort of agree with it but for one thing Sutton said it in relation to Tom's 'car accident' which clearly she did lie and we saw her a few seasons ago attack Teddi (who actually reminds me of Sutton) for calling her indirectly a liar. Waaay before any of these current issues so clearly being called a liar is a trigger for her, even though she is allowed to call people cunts and bitches.

One thing I did think was disgusting was when Andy said something about her Amex bill ($14m over 12 years) she agreed that she spent it but when asked how she felt she started saying should any of the lawyers at the firm or receptionists be paying back their salaries over the last decade. That's such a twisted way of thinking, they were being paid (I'm guessing most of them had no idea anything was amiss and they were doing a job) she was just living large possibly directly being funded from the victims pockets. I'm not even talking about whether she could pay money to the victims it's just her manner no shame she might have been splashing so much money when the victims were being defrauded. I'm aware she may not be able to say certain things that would make her look guilty but I don't think that response would have even entered my mind.

Anyway that's my brain dump.

That's interesting about what you said about Teddy and Sutton being similar. They are both come across as sensitive, intuitive, intelligent, non-confrontational women who are no interested in climbing over people to get what they want.

What I see in them, is a quiet inner strength, which seems to be perceived as weakness by people who get their sense of self from 'power games, manipulation and attacking others'.

I thought it was interesting that it was Sutton who bore the brunt of Erika's attack. To me, the closer it gets to Erika having to say sorry, apologise and take some responsibility the more she ramps up the deflection with her temper. With Sutton - I think she has got the closest to 'the truth' and that is why Erika has been quite frankly vile towards her. In a way that reflects more badly on Erika than Sutton.

I don't understand why when Erika has shown time and time again how vile she is - (calling Sutton horrible names) why the other women rally to her. There was this weird eye thing with Crystal and Erika - and it just came across as 'mean girls unite'.

I think Erika presented a master class in non-stop talking without saying anything in that episode and you are right - her 'who should we claw the money back from' monologue was more evidence of her self absorption and self justification.

I also think that Sutton's 'you pretended to be my friend...what's that lying' moment was actually brilliant.

That's my brain dump as well!