Will Gloti get a historic 120 points, will 3x bridesmaid Kev finally make it up the aisle, or will sis Jwan steal the glitterball and if so, do we have enough Kleenex for Ore?! It's #SCD10 FINAL 2016

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In preparation for tonight. So who are you rooting for? Danny, Louise or Ore?
My preference would be:
Danny
Ore
Louise
But I really don't mind who wins and quite like the idea of Ore taking the trophy.

and another irritation is the way they do this 'walk on' at the beginning, like it's about them. It looks like a copy of the X Factor where the judges walk on to the "Empress of the Universe" music.

I don't remember Sharron Davies doing Strictly and I have seen every single episode

Sharon Davies did Dancing on Ice but I don't think she ever did Strictly. I wonder if you meant Letitia Dean - Sharon in East enders?

Len has annoyed me with his negative comments and before the crowd had even murmured he's in there with "don't about at me, it's true " type comment.

I don't have a problem with his negative comments. I do wonder if he can hear the muttering before it's loud enough for the microphones to pick up. TBH, the muttering whenever he criticises something pisses me off.

I was mixing them up. I meant dancing on ice. No idea if Letitia dean did any of them.

So, can I see the earlier series anywhere?

Goingtobeawesome I don't think you can see the whole of the early series but you can find a number of individual dances on YouTube.

You should definitely look up the previous winners, in particular Jill Halfpenny and her amazing Jive (she scored the first ever 40 of the Show and I rate it better than Jay's last year as it was pure Jive, no gimmicks), and Mark Ramprakash's Salsa (which famously had to be restarted) and his Argentine Tango (still the best celeb AT ever IMHO).

Other celebs worth looking at are Colin Jackson, Zoe Ball (she did a great Tango and Samba), Tom Chambers and Kara Tointon.

Thank you Cavemum. We did see Jill and Jay, and possibly Mark so maybe we just missed series one.

I thought Darcey was right to look for emotional connection of some sort, particularly in dances like the waltz, paso, tango and rhumba. They just don't work if the participants just dance at each other and go through the steps.

Darcy spends too much time commenting on people's appearance.
Bruno gushes too much - he needs to remember it's not called 'The Bruno Show'.
I have no time for Karen Harding - when she was the prizegiver at a local children's awards ceremony, her few words of welcome were eventually interrupted at 25 minutes. She seemed to have forgotten the point of the ceremony and was instead treating the evening as an opportunity to boast about how great she was. She hadn't even reached SCD in her litany of the awards and acheivements of KH.

I'd love to see Arlene back and whatever happens, CRH to be head judge.

Late to this and haven't RTFT, so apologies if I'm being annoying!

Tameka: pps have mentioned it but I think she was injured; she was propping her leg up on a chair or something backstage.

Re: Louise/Darcey lady of the night comment –in the AT the story/character is often 'man and prostitute'. It wasn't a personal insult!

I am SO pleased Ore won. Louise's Flashdance was half-hearted, self-conscious and embarrassing. Her showdance was all meaningless wafting. Her AT was wobbly.

Danny fucked up his first dance. His showdance – Oti really let him down. Repetitious, dull choreography –they reminded me of a couple of agility dogs at Crufts jumping through endless hoops.

Shite music.

Generalised emoting.

Wild and lazy movements.

It was all very deep and meaningless. She'd have served him better going for something with more element of showmanship, maybe based on his Charleston and AS.

Ore's Singin' in the Rain was as good as before and his showdance was really really clever work by Jo – classic song; lovely nostalgic choreography and setting; played to all his strengths and showcased them as a partnership.

His jive was ice-cool and full of character. People loved it before because it was such a wonderful early-stage surprise, and I think they were itching to see it again. Clever clever Jo!

Karen for head judge. The others can stay, although Bruno does grate on me.

Sapphire, I so agree about Danny's showdance. It would have been so much better to go for something that showed a different side to him, more akin to his Charleson or American Smooth. Attempts at dramatism never work in showdances, and that's been demonstrated all too often. Maybe if Oti gets to that position in future years she'll watch Ore's and Tom Chambers' showdances and learn.

TBF it worked for Caroline Ringer Flack and Pasha, if memory serves. I think in that case, though, a) she was better than Louise and better able to deliver the interpretation required for that kind of wafting and dragging dancing and b) it genuinely expressed their relationship, which was lovely and which I think the voting audience responded to.

IMO Kevin made the mistake of thinking the audience loved his partnership with Louise as much as he did, and miscalculated.

Please not Karen on the judging panel. She's annoying enough on ITT.

She'd have to be less annoying and more serious as a judge.

Seriously, though, she would be ace –she's a ballroom and Latin expert and Len was the only one of those on the current panel; and she's competed in the show so she knows what it's like.

I like Karen in small doses, but she's a bit too earnest and I wonder if she would be quite long-winded as a judge.

The more I think about Ian Waite the more I think he would be really good as a judge. I hadn't even considered him until Len mentioned his name on ITT. I wonder if the judging panel might become a little too camp though with three gay men and Darcey. Len added a nice touch of curmudgeonly gruffness to offset Bruno's effusiveness and Darcey's slightly patronising positivity.

The thing about KH isn't just that she's a superexperienced dancer, but also a qualified and experienced dance judge, which is what sets her aside from Anton et al. Brendan judges DWTS New Zealand I think but not necessarily in a proper "dance judge" way like Karen (and Len when he could be bothered).

I bow to no one in my love for Ian Waite and I do think he'd be a good judge; but I agree with you about the balance. Not that Karen would be gruff like Len, but she's not camp or gay like Craig or Bruno.

And yes, Evil, thank you; I'd forgotten to mention that she has serious credentials as an actual judge!

Aha, so this musical of sleepless in seatle is what Danny was doing it all for, and why carly would put herself through being a strictly celeb wife again!

I was waiting to see which stage show he'd turn up in.

Me too HSM!

I'm just glad he's got something since HE WAS ROBBED

Properly laughed reading DS forum where someone said watching Strictly this year was like seeing one child praised to the skies for being able to recite their 5 times table whilst simultaneously seeing another criticised for bad handwriting while solving a polynomial equation.

Shall I start a thread for Xmas Strictly or are we finishing this one first? Happy Christmas fellow Strictly fans.

Happy Christmas all

Father Christmas is bringing me a Latin dress!

why carly would put herself through being a strictly celeb wife again!

Not sure what that means. Was she previously married to another Strictly sleb? Or has Danny done a Strictly before?

Sorry, I'm easily

Carly Stenson was previously the girlfriend of Ricky Whittle who was robbed by Chris Hollins in the final of the 2009 series of Strictly. They broke up shortly after that series which may or may not have had something to do with his close working relationship with his dance partner Natalie Lowe.