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Any Buffy fans around to discuss some things that have annoyed me on rewatching?

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MrsBertMacklin · 26/07/2015 21:13

Posting in Chat because this doesn't warrant a permanent thread. I fully admit to overthinking the issues below, I've been binge watching and may have lost perspective.

  • Faith was made a slayer when Buffy died the first time. When she dies in Season 5, no mention of a duplicate Slayer, correct?
  • The Principal in Season 7 talks to Buffy about how he's looked through her file, why is her response not, 'you creepy fuck, what a breach of privacy, I left school 5 years ago'?
  • Neither Buffy or Willow have regular jobs (Willow is never seen in employment). Who pays for Willow's flights to England for rehab, their weapons, various house repairs (don't tell me Buffy could get insurance for accidental damage / civil unrest with her claims history), Dawn's school books etc.?
  • When Spike goes to get himself restored to his former self: why exactly does that Demon con him and actually give him his soul? If it was a good demon I could understand it's ultimately setting him on the road to redemption, but it's not.
  • Why did Joss Whedon make Angel Irish, when it must have been obvious within 5 syllables that David B's Irish accent was the worst thing in the world?
  • Kennedy: I was all for Willow finding someone else after Tara, why on earth did they make that person such an utter knob? Is she meant to have some redeeming features / be perfect for Willow and the actor ballsed it up?
  • After Joyce died, why didn't Buffy's dad make a single appearance, surely they could have found some reason / decent plot to make this happen, it's so clanging for me that a parent, no matter how absent, wouldn't even stop by once after his childrens' mother died suddenly.
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Micah · 31/07/2015 09:15

I have digitised mine so I can re watch without having to damage the dvd's or those irritating cardboard folders.

It's now legal to keep a digital back up, as of July 2015!

JassyRadlett · 31/07/2015 10:29

Micah - massive derail, but what software do you use to digitise? We have a massive DVD library I would love to consign to the loft!

Micah · 31/07/2015 10:32

Handbrake :). Free download.

SlatternIsMyMiddleName · 31/07/2015 10:34

Up thread I had posted that, considering the background of violence in Spike and Buffy's sexual relationship it was little wonder Spike 'misread' Buffy's actions before the attempted rape.

I watched the relevant episode last night, holy hell, the Episode that I viewed years ago was clearly cut (sky or bbc2). The full version was a lot more sinister in both action and dialogue and the attack was much longer. Having now seen the full version there is no doubt what it was.

JassyRadlett · 31/07/2015 10:35

Thanks!

mimbleandlittlemy · 31/07/2015 11:52

slattern there's no doubt the attack is long and horrid and she says no many many times before she finally fights him off.

She is still suffering from it some episodes later - series 7, five or six episodes in, when they get Spike out of the basement, he goes to touch her perfectly innocently and her response is still very raw. Because he has a soul he is evidently appalled.

Lots of the BBC episodes were cut for content as they went out at 6ish.

ElviraCondomine · 31/07/2015 16:39

Oh I am majorly pissed off with Amazon Prime. I watched all of Buffy and Dollhouse on Amazon Prime, then 2 seasons of Angel a while back. Last night I had some time to myself, went to watch more Angel AND IT'S NO LONGER ON THERE. I would have to pay! Buffy and Dollhouse have gone too.

It went at the end of June. I was half way through a bloody episode!
Bought series 4 and 5 cheaply on DVD.

TheWatchersCouncil · 31/07/2015 19:24

Ah - is that what happened. I re-watched the first 2 episodes of series 1 for free, and when I went back the next night, they wanted to charge.

It really was so much better when the streaming was through LoveFilm.

EverydayAnya · 06/08/2015 17:45

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet but despite the cheapness of season 7 James Marsters was bloody amazing. Just rewatched episode 2 Beneath you...the end scene. Wow.

EverydayAnya · 06/08/2015 18:22

I meant crapness not cheapnessConfused

Dionysuss · 06/08/2015 20:55

I just don't understand the appeal of Spike Confused

Although he does look like an ex boyfriend. Maybe that puts me off.

Is anyone watching Buffy on SyFi? Season 4 just started today.

slithytove · 15/08/2015 01:04

Just watching 'the body' for the first time. How heartbreaking, especially anya's monologue.

So true to life.

GatoradeMeBitch · 15/08/2015 11:34

James Marsters is on the convention circuit a lot these days. Easy money I suppose, and an enthusiastic audience, but it's a shame he hasn't had another big hit since Buffy. He and Nicholas Brendon are getting in on co-writing Buffy comics now.

JM has spoken quite a bit about his awkward working relationship with Whedon - he said Whedon resented him for his looks and didn't like to hear his ideas on Spike (including really not wanting to do the attempted rape scene) and JW called Spike 'an ingenue' character in an interview which he found insulting.

I did't find Buffy problematic from a feminist perspective at all. The whole premise was that the vampires and experiences with monsters were metaphors (is metaphor the right word?) for the hellish experience of being at high school - and Buffy is shown working through painful experiences and coming through the other side in a very healthy way.

Now 'The Avengers', on the other hand... JW had the Black Widow dismissed by Loki as a 'mewling quim' in the first film, and whatever people say I don't think she was given the chance to come back from that - can you imagine any of the male cast being called a 'whiny pussy' and not being allowed to dish out revenge personally but just shrugging it off? And in the second film she did little else but make doe eyes at Bruce Banner, oh, and she called herself a monster because she had the ability to get pregnant taken away from her... JW took an awesome character and turned her into a needy victim, and it was horrible to watch.

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